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Posted by JimiPeppr

Single tear when they mentioned that they loved Rocket Race. I may or may not have been in a Rocket Race "clan" in Halo 3. :)

Posted by Romination

GUYS THIS WEBSITE IS REAL DUMB

Posted by Scotto

@washingmachine said:

@PJ said:

@washingmachine said:

@SatelliteOfLove said:

@washingmachine said:

@SatelliteOfLove

"Perks" or as I correctly term it, "Talents" are an ugly crutch that immediately brings in negative baggage that RPG-based multiplayer games have been struggling to control for years. The dev team gains a grope at the lizard brains of their clientele at the cost of poopsockers gaining an advantage over the True Casuals and the formenting of the false confidence in a playerbase when it's only the character growing better, not the player. Also, the cognative dissonance of RPGs catching flak for grinding while FPSs get a pass for adding it on.

I'd consider it a philosophical question as well if it wasn't for the fact yet another FPS multiplayer stalwart didn't bolt this thing on again; less for any balancing reasons than to fill what to most must feel like a phantom limb of not getting a dopamine hit off of play.

You're trying too hard

Some of us think deeply about our gaming from time to time, when we feel it's necessary or interesting.

...

It's not that, it's your bloated and frankly pretentious manner of speech. It's overly wordy and unnecessarily complex. I know you think it sounds all erudite and shit, but there's something to be said for dialing it back a little bit. You can make the same points in ways that are much more simple and enjoyable to read... that's all I is sayin..

I think its refreshing to see someone write properly and not use words just to please the lowest common denominator. It's great so see someone not destroyed by the message board way of writing and actually use the education they've got. And if someone feels that the text is pretentious or complex probably won't have anything worth while to add to the thoughts presented in the text to begin with.

That's not true, I just think he was over-thinking his language. If you like that style then fine, I just find it unnecessarily verbose and bloated.

I'm with this guy. ""Perks" or as I correctly term it, "Talents"" was a particularly hilarious and unnecessary part. And for all of his florid language and verbosity, he isn't even accurate.

Perks exist so that players can customize their character, and further specialize their playstyle. They also almost always result in a negative tradeoff, and don't make your character "better" in any sort of binary way. If I take the "Ammo" perk, it's at the expense of the quick weapon change perk. If I take the autosentry, it's at the expense of the jetpack, and so on.

RPG's are accused of being "grindy", specifically because your character often DOES simply get "better" with every level - base stats go up, armor and weapons get better stats, etc. There is no comparison between this, and letting players customize their weapon loadout, or letting players trade-off advantages through armor modifications.

So yeah - if his decision to be intentionally wordy was in service of some greater point, I'd have no issue with it. As it stands, it's just a mess of inaccurately used phrases (he misuses "cognitive dissonance", for example), poor arguments, and hilariously unnecessary, arrogant asides (""Perks" or as I correctly term it, "Talents"" - as though manufactured video game concepts have a "proper" name).

Posted by rockhardalibi

All TNTs from now on should end this way.

Posted by PrezAbeLincoln

We need Foundation in Halo 4!

Posted by washingmachine

@PJ said:

@washingmachine said:

@SatelliteOfLove said:

@washingmachine said:

@SatelliteOfLove

"Perks" or as I correctly term it, "Talents" are an ugly crutch that immediately brings in negative baggage that RPG-based multiplayer games have been struggling to control for years. The dev team gains a grope at the lizard brains of their clientele at the cost of poopsockers gaining an advantage over the True Casuals and the formenting of the false confidence in a playerbase when it's only the character growing better, not the player. Also, the cognative dissonance of RPGs catching flak for grinding while FPSs get a pass for adding it on.

I'd consider it a philosophical question as well if it wasn't for the fact yet another FPS multiplayer stalwart didn't bolt this thing on again; less for any balancing reasons than to fill what to most must feel like a phantom limb of not getting a dopamine hit off of play.

You're trying too hard

Some of us think deeply about our gaming from time to time, when we feel it's necessary or interesting.

...

It's not that, it's your bloated and frankly pretentious manner of speech. It's overly wordy and unnecessarily complex. I know you think it sounds all erudite and shit, but there's something to be said for dialing it back a little bit. You can make the same points in ways that are much more simple and enjoyable to read... that's all I is sayin..

I think its refreshing to see someone write properly and not use words just to please the lowest common denominator. It's great so see someone not destroyed by the message board way of writing and actually use the education they've got. And if someone feels that the text is pretentious or complex probably won't have anything worth while to add to the thoughts presented in the text to begin with.

That's not true, I just think he was over-thinking his language. If you like that style then fine, I just find it unnecessarily verbose and bloated.

Posted by PJ

@washingmachine said:

@SatelliteOfLove said:

@washingmachine said:

@SatelliteOfLove

"Perks" or as I correctly term it, "Talents" are an ugly crutch that immediately brings in negative baggage that RPG-based multiplayer games have been struggling to control for years. The dev team gains a grope at the lizard brains of their clientele at the cost of poopsockers gaining an advantage over the True Casuals and the formenting of the false confidence in a playerbase when it's only the character growing better, not the player. Also, the cognative dissonance of RPGs catching flak for grinding while FPSs get a pass for adding it on.

I'd consider it a philosophical question as well if it wasn't for the fact yet another FPS multiplayer stalwart didn't bolt this thing on again; less for any balancing reasons than to fill what to most must feel like a phantom limb of not getting a dopamine hit off of play.

You're trying too hard

Some of us think deeply about our gaming from time to time, when we feel it's necessary or interesting.

...

It's not that, it's your bloated and frankly pretentious manner of speech. It's overly wordy and unnecessarily complex. I know you think it sounds all erudite and shit, but there's something to be said for dialing it back a little bit. You can make the same points in ways that are much more simple and enjoyable to read... that's all I is sayin..

I think its refreshing to see someone write properly and not use words just to please the lowest common denominator. It's great so see someone not destroyed by the message board way of writing and actually use the education they've got. And if someone feels that the text is pretentious or complex probably won't have anything worth while to add to the thoughts presented in the text to begin with.

Posted by Th3_James

>_> mfw Patrick said CS Dust.

Posted by SatelliteOfLove

There's like, two $5 words there. I like synonyms, sue me. The rest are specific terms necessary to the message.

Maybe I'll go back to not proofreading my deep thought posts for spelling errors so there's two things to discu...er talk about.

And now, back to my regular parrotting of personal favorite GB memes posts.

Edited by washingmachine

@SatelliteOfLove said:

@washingmachine said:

@SatelliteOfLove

"Perks" or as I correctly term it, "Talents" are an ugly crutch that immediately brings in negative baggage that RPG-based multiplayer games have been struggling to control for years. The dev team gains a grope at the lizard brains of their clientele at the cost of poopsockers gaining an advantage over the True Casuals and the formenting of the false confidence in a playerbase when it's only the character growing better, not the player. Also, the cognative dissonance of RPGs catching flak for grinding while FPSs get a pass for adding it on.

I'd consider it a philosophical question as well if it wasn't for the fact yet another FPS multiplayer stalwart didn't bolt this thing on again; less for any balancing reasons than to fill what to most must feel like a phantom limb of not getting a dopamine hit off of play.

You're trying too hard

Some of us think deeply about our gaming from time to time, when we feel it's necessary or interesting.

...

It's not that, it's your bloated and frankly pretentious manner of speech. It's overly wordy and unnecessarily complex. I know you think it sounds all erudite and shit, but there's something to be said for dialing it back a little bit. You can make the same points in ways that are much more simple and enjoyable to read... that's all I is sayin..

Posted by SatelliteOfLove

@washingmachine said:

@SatelliteOfLove

"Perks" or as I correctly term it, "Talents" are an ugly crutch that immediately brings in negative baggage that RPG-based multiplayer games have been struggling to control for years. The dev team gains a grope at the lizard brains of their clientele at the cost of poopsockers gaining an advantage over the True Casuals and the formenting of the false confidence in a playerbase when it's only the character growing better, not the player. Also, the cognative dissonance of RPGs catching flak for grinding while FPSs get a pass for adding it on.

I'd consider it a philosophical question as well if it wasn't for the fact yet another FPS multiplayer stalwart didn't bolt this thing on again; less for any balancing reasons than to fill what to most must feel like a phantom limb of not getting a dopamine hit off of play.

You're trying too hard

Some of us think deeply about our gaming from time to time, when we feel it's necessary or interesting.

Posted by Red12b

@JuggaloAcidman said:

Once again unable to finish TnT because of Cher. Seriously Vinny? Please, for the love of god STOP! It was funny the first 20 times... Now it's beyond annoying! My Mom made me listen to that song on repeat when I was in High School! I've heard that song enough for 2 lifetimes!

i need to know though,

do you believe in life after love?

Posted by washingmachine
@SatelliteOfLove

"Perks" or as I correctly term it, "Talents" are an ugly crutch that immediately brings in negative baggage that RPG-based multiplayer games have been struggling to control for years. The dev team gains a grope at the lizard brains of their clientele at the cost of poopsockers gaining an advantage over the True Casuals and the formenting of the false confidence in a playerbase when it's only the character growing better, not the player. Also, the cognative dissonance of RPGs catching flak for grinding while FPSs get a pass for adding it on.

I'd consider it a philosophical question as well if it wasn't for the fact yet another FPS multiplayer stalwart didn't bolt this thing on again; less for any balancing reasons than to fill what to most must feel like a phantom limb of not getting a dopamine hit off of play.

You're trying too hard
Posted by Baal_Sagoth

Another great show, very nice choice of excellent Halo 4 gameplay vs. hilarious Wrestling episodes as well!

Posted by geirr

@SatelliteOfLove said:

"Perks" or as I correctly term it, "Talents" are an ugly crutch that immediately brings in negative baggage that RPG-based multiplayer games have been struggling to control for years. The dev team gains a grope at the lizard brains of their clientele at the cost of poopsockers gaining an advantage over the True Casuals and the formenting of the false confidence in a playerbase when it's only the character growing better, not the player. Also, the cognative dissonance of RPGs catching flak for grinding while FPSs get a pass for adding it on.

I'd consider it a philosophical question as well if it wasn't for the fact yet another FPS multiplayer stalwart didn't bolt this thing on again; less for any balancing reasons than to fill what to most must feel like a phantom limb of not getting a dopamine hit off of play.

vidyagames

Posted by 93The_Ace

ghosts cant eat

ok

ghosts cant die

oh ok

GHOSTS DON'T DIE

Edited by SatelliteOfLove

"Perks" or as I correctly term it, "Talents" are an ugly crutch that immediately brings in negative baggage that RPG-based multiplayer games have been struggling to control for years. The dev team gains a grope at the lizard brains of their clientele at the cost of poopsockers gaining an advantage over the True Casuals and the formenting of the false confidence in a playerbase when it's only the character growing better, not the player. Also, the cognative dissonance of RPGs catching flak for grinding while FPSs get a pass for adding it on.

I'd consider it a philosophical question as well if it wasn't for the fact yet another FPS multiplayer stalwart didn't bolt this thing on again; less for any balancing reasons than to fill what to most must feel like a phantom limb of not getting a dopamine hit off of play.

Posted by Nethlem

@internetpizza said:

latency does not govern framerate.

Usually true, but it depends on how the game/engine handles lag compensation, which parts of the game logic gets calculated by the client/server side and which of those take priority.

Posted by JuggaloAcidman

Once again unable to finish TnT because of Cher. Seriously Vinny? Please, for the love of god STOP! It was funny the first 20 times... Now it's beyond annoying! My Mom made me listen to that song on repeat when I was in High School! I've heard that song enough for 2 lifetimes!

Posted by Scratch

God that ending is awesome!

Posted by AngriGhandi

Perfect ending. PERFECT.

Posted by Scotto

Don't get me wrong - I like Scoops - but doesn't it seem sometimes like the points he makes during discussions sound like a book report from someone who didn't read the book?

Drives me crazy when he steps on other people while they are talking, to essentially finish their sentence for them.

I don't say this as a hater, because I'm not. Scoops is good people overall. But sometimes the tendencies I describe above are really noticeable - he did it a bunch on this week's podcast too.

Posted by MasterVerhoffin

For those who want the best part, Ghost Problems More starts at 1:25:20.

Edited by falling_fast

The announcer in this game sounds like the teammate voices from arma II.

ENEMY MAN TO YOUR. FRONT

Posted by Winternet

Oh, that ending. So, so good.

Posted by ThePickle

Fuck year 2 hour TNT

Posted by civid

I must admit, I have felt that Vinny and Drew hasn't been as present with their insanity these past couple of TNT's...

Just as I thought this THAT FUCKING OUTRO CAME UP!

Posted by Kaowas

@Dberg: Unrealstep would be the best.

Posted by itspizza

best ending ever

Posted by MeatSim

The sequel surpassed the original ghost problems which is a rarity.

Posted by Fredddi43

@Animasta: they don't care

Edited by DoctorWelch

Drew saying he hasn't read Jeff's review and saw the score, even though he works at GB, almost perfectly encapsulates the state of game reviews.

Posted by Forkstik

Woow, what is up with the frame rate?

Posted by NekuCTR

Ryan gets sick A LOT. Dude needs to roll around in the dirt more.

Posted by Slaegar

Playing Quake next TNT instead of BLOPS TOO would be a great fuck you to modern military shooters.

Posted by internetpizza

latency does not govern framerate.

Posted by pwnmachine

What is a Halo?

Edited by Dberg

Was initially just listening to this in the back, but when Cherstep came on, the game became sort of tolerable to watch. Helps that it was Unreal style at that point.

So what I'm saying is, bring back Unreal (with dubstep).

Posted by Dead_Cell

@Sharpless said:

The absolute best outro of any TNT. Vinny, you understated genius.

Posted by dshban

@AjayRaz: We recap the shows in full so yeah it would be ideal to be following but you should catch on soon enough.

Posted by AjayRaz

@dshban said:

@AjayRaz: WWE and TNA, mostly. But we make fun of everything because we're well aware that wrestling is dumb.

sounds good! do i need to be watching TNA/WWE or can i just start listening at any time? of course, i'm sure if i was currently watching wrestling, it would be ideal

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Posted by dshban

@AjayRaz: WWE and TNA, mostly. But we make fun of everything because we're well aware that wrestling is dumb.

Posted by DeF

@Oddy4000 said:

I'm immortalized as the idiot committing suicide on the cover image of this video. How appropriate :)

Thumbs up, duder :D

Posted by Oddy4000

I'm immortalized as the idiot committing suicide on the cover image of this video. How appropriate :)

Posted by Christoffer

I'm not really interested in Halo so I thought this was going to be one of the "less entertaining" TNT's. Always good to be proven wrong.

Absolutely great.

Posted by Tr0n

Wow, this game looks ugly. Are all games on consoles this ugly?

Posted by KlUMZeE

I'm soo glad they included their story from WWE 13 at the beginning; fucking hilarious!

Posted by Majkiboy

Custom games makes me think of Time Splitters 2 ^^ Might have to reconsider my ideas regarding Halo! Love this crazy shit!

Posted by DjDonFrancisco

Ghost Pac spitting that mad heat. Silly Security Guard B, Ghost Can't Die.

Btw, get me Ghost Can't Die on a hot pink shirt.

Posted by Sammo21

reach is better, personally.

Only way I've liked Halo 4 online so far was in Slayer Pro with none of the unbalanced powers and stuff.

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