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Posted by Mnemoidian

Yeah, Bayonetta is awesome - even the PS3 version (which is now fixed, AFAIK?) has something of an unfair reputation. The loading times (loading time for pause menu!?) were bad, but not bad enough that you should have avoided it if it was your only vector of Bayonetta worship :)

It's a shame about the WiiU exclusivity, I can't justify picking up a WiiU just to play Bayonetta 2, and I've not seen enough other titles that impress me sufficiently. ... but let's not turn this into a WiiU debate.

Anyway, it's got some great music that is unlikely to leave you for years to come! ;)

Posted by StarvingGamer

@Lazyaza said:

I can only assume Bayonetta 2 will eventually make its way to PS4 and 720. Exclusive deals don't last forever more often than not and I'm sure it being released on other platforms is merely a matter of time and money.

Least that's what I hope, gosh is the first game so fantastically stupid it's brilliant.

Even if after the deal expires, are they going to want to put the extra money/effort into porting the technologically obsolete follow-up to a niche title that didn't originally sell well enough to warrant a sequel to begin with? I'm going to be shocked if Bayonetta 2 sells more than 200k copies.

Don't get me wrong, I'm there day-one with wallet in hand even if I don't own a WiiU yet, but at most this is going to be a feel-good moment for the core audience that helps move a couple hundred more consoles. It's an interesting blip in the history of video games.

Posted by JazGalaxy

@JoeyRavn said:

Oh, hey, people dissing the Wii U. That's a novelty. I will never understand the amount of pure hatred that a console may generate. But then again, we're talking about the same type of reaction that DmC had. Fuck the haters. Bayonetta 2 will rock on Wii U. Don't want to play it? Your loss.

I think a lot of the strong reactions things get in gaming is due to opportunity cost and the fact that gaming is ultra, ultra trend-driven. If a developer is making one game, or making a game a certain way, that means it necessarily CAN'T be made another way. Also, if a game makes a left turn from what it was previously, the old way is pretty much done, for better or worse.

I can't tell you how many games I've had a strong reaction to just because they meant the death of something I loved. For instance, I remember the strong love my brothers and I had to the PC game Alone In The Dark. The first game was amazing, the second game was good, and the third game was only alright. So you think I'd be fine when they changed the game to a new, younger, edgier protagonist and made the game more like Resident Evil? Heck no. I was fit to be tied. I had to mourn the death of the potential that the series had as it chased what was trendy at the time.

Posted by Humanity

@JoeyRavn said:

Oh, hey, people dissing the Wii U. That's a novelty. I will never understand the amount of pure hatred that a console may generate. But then again, we're talking about the same type of reaction that DmC had. Fuck the haters. Bayonetta 2 will rock on Wii U. Don't want to play it? Your loss.

It's not as simple as "dont want to play it your loss" it's more like I don't want to buy an entirely new console that I have no interest in to get the opportunity to experience a sequel to one of my favorite games of all time. I'm not dissing the Wii U here either, it just doesn't cater to any of my gaming needs, and if Bayonetta 2 will not get ported to current or next gen consoles because of Nintendo exclusivity then that will be a big loss to a lot of gamers out there. Naturally a lot of people who experienced the game on 360 or PS3 are a little upset that the followup is not happening on the same hardware - especially since despite this amazing economy and everyone being so rich not everyone owns every console under the sun. Thats not even an economic issue, as some simply don't care to own every console because they do the bulk of their gaming on either PC or one of the big two.

So just to be clear - I'm not saying its ok to diss the Wii U as thats childish, but just trying to show why some people might be upset about it coming out on that particular console.

Posted by JazGalaxy

@CptBedlam said:

Bayonetta is weird. I do remember snippets that make absolutely no sense, almost as if I had a blackout after getting drunk. I still know that at some point I was driving a motorcycle upside a rocket that was flying into space... and then I must have passed out or or something and eventually everyone was dancing.

I don't feel like saying bayonetta is weird is quite fair. Twin Peaks is weird. Bayonetta is nonsensical. Giving Bayonetta credit for having a story is like giving Rob Liefield credit as an artist.

That being said, all this love is making me want to try the game again. I had to try KOTOR 3 times before I liked it, and once I liked it, I loved it.

Posted by BoOzak

@SpaceInsomniac said:

@Miketakon said:

@HisDudeness: Keep this in mind Resident Evil 4 was Nintendo exclusive at one point.

The problem with this logic is that Nintendo didn't publish Resident Evil 4 after Capcom sold them the rights to the entire franchise, because that's exactly what happened with Bayonetta. Sega is a company of fools, and Nintendo took advantage of that fact.

Didnt it also take them close to a year to localise the game? I remember pre-ordering the Japanese version for PS3 but promptly cancelled it when I heard how bad of a port it was.

& Yes the game is pretty great I just played through it recently on 'Non-Stop Climax' only to realise I was still missing a bunch of weapons, after looking at the Wiki it's insane how much crazy shit they packed into that game.

Edited by evanbower

@TooWalrus said:

@LikeaSsur said:

@Canteu said:

Yes it's a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is not going to be played by anyone who loved Bayonetta.

Speak for yourself.

I... will probably buy a WiiU for Bayonetta 2. I can honestly say that I can't think of a single other reason to buy one- at the moment, anyway.

Yeaaaah, I own a Wii U. I think things might have actually worked out well for Platinum.. Nintendo is a company with both a lot of money and a desperation to get some third party support so they can continue to have money a few years from now. So, in theory at least, Platinum have probably fallen into a situation where they can get the resources they really need to do a sequel right, which even in better times might not have been the case with Sega. Can't wait.

Posted by JoeyRavn

Oh, hey, people dissing the Wii U. That's a novelty. I will never understand the amount of pure hatred that a console may generate. But then again, we're talking about the same type of reaction that DmC had. Fuck the haters. Bayonetta 2 will rock on Wii U. Don't want to play it? Your loss.

Posted by Humanity
@JazGalaxy while the story is pretty wacky I believe most fans are in fact huge fans because of the amazing gameplay and finely tuned combat system.
Posted by Nottle

@CptBedlam said:

@Nottle said:

@CptBedlam said:

Bayonetta is weird. I do remember snippets that make absolutely no sense, almost as if I had a blackout after getting drunk. I still know that at some point I was driving a motorcycle upside a rocket that was flying into space... and then I must have passed out or or something and eventually everyone was dancing.

I've played Bayonetta about 7 times and I'm still pretty confused. Especially story stuff. At somepoint I realized Cereza was Bayonetta and that the person you played as during the flashback stuff was Bayonetta's mom (I think.) But Jeanne was still the same age.

That said one of the best games this gen. Perfect in terms of gameplay.

Wat o_O

Maybe I should play that game a second time.

edit: okay, it's coming back. My memories are still hazy but some of it sounds familiar. Man, what a trip that game was - in a good way. I kinda like the feeling of being mentally exhausted from all that crazy stuff in the game.

I'd say the game is at it's strongest when it's not trying to have any emotion to it. Thats when it just gets confusing. I'm still not even sure who is who by the end and I've played it so many times. Kind of weird to think Bayonetta was ever a child.

But the weird story stuff is worth it for Bayonetta playing volleyball with enemies using her hair-demon=hands, or her starting a motorcycle with her middle finger, or Jeanne climbing a tower into space then knocking hair God into the sun.

Posted by Lazyaza

I can only assume Bayonetta 2 will eventually make its way to PS4 and 720. Exclusive deals don't last forever more often than not and I'm sure it being released on other platforms is merely a matter of time and money.

Least that's what I hope, gosh is the first game so fantastically stupid it's brilliant.

Posted by Miketakon

@SpaceInsomniac If Sega sold the rights they wouldn't be supervising Bayonetta 2.

Posted by golguin

Bayonetta was my GOTY the year it came out (2010 I think). The combat was a fresh take on the DMC formula and I played the hell out of it. I originally used gamefly to rent it, but after playing it for an hour I bought it outright and gamefly sent the cover and everything. I went on to 1000/1000 the game and I didn't do that for DMC4.

Posted by PixelPrinny

@TooWalrus said:

Without sarcasm, irony or any of that shit, Bayonetta is one of my favorite games. Ever. God damn that ending is fantastic.

I second this sentiment. Such a fantastic game and I was especially surprised by how much I enjoyed it due to the fact it's not in my usual wheelhouse (that being rpgs and fighting games, mainly). I was not a fan of God of War and I was fairly neutral about the original Devil May Cry, so I wasn't going into Bayonetta expecting to have it ending up on my all-time favorites list. Just goes to show that it never hurts to give games in genres you're not familiar with or particularly fond of a chance.

Posted by LiquidPrince

@TooWalrus said:

@LiquidPrince said:

I think I'm turning around a bit on it. Upon release I despised it mostly for it's shitty cutscenes. DMC was always known for bookending chapters with mind blowing cutscenes, so the film roll style thing from Bayonetta really pissed me off.

Just finish that game and report back. It's not very long. Trust me.

I beat the game years ago. Like the day it was released. I just really hated it. I rebought it recently again though to give it another try, and it's still ridiculous. But god damn do those cutscenes still reek of running out of budget.

Posted by TooWalrus

@LiquidPrince said:

I think I'm turning around a bit on it. Upon release I despised it mostly for it's shitty cutscenes. DMC was always known for bookending chapters with mind blowing cutscenes, so the film roll style thing from Bayonetta really pissed me off.

Just finish that game and report back. It's not very long. Trust me.

Posted by LiquidPrince

I think I'm turning around a bit on it. Upon release I despised it mostly for it's shitty cutscenes. DMC was always known for bookending chapters with mind blowing cutscenes, so the film roll style thing from Bayonetta really pissed me off.

Edited by CptBedlam

@Nottle said:

@CptBedlam said:

Bayonetta is weird. I do remember snippets that make absolutely no sense, almost as if I had a blackout after getting drunk. I still know that at some point I was driving a motorcycle upside a rocket that was flying into space... and then I must have passed out or or something and eventually everyone was dancing.

I've played Bayonetta about 7 times and I'm still pretty confused. Especially story stuff. At somepoint I realized Cereza was Bayonetta and that the person you played as during the flashback stuff was Bayonetta's mom (I think.) But Jeanne was still the same age.

That said one of the best games this gen. Perfect in terms of gameplay.

Wat o_O

Maybe I should play that game a second time.

edit: okay, it's coming back. My memories are still hazy but some of it sounds familiar. Man, what a trip that game was - in a good way. I kinda like the feeling of being mentally exhausted from all that crazy stuff in the game.

Posted by Nottle

@CptBedlam said:

Bayonetta is weird. I do remember snippets that make absolutely no sense, almost as if I had a blackout after getting drunk. I still know that at some point I was driving a motorcycle upside a rocket that was flying into space... and then I must have passed out or or something and eventually everyone was dancing.

I've played Bayonetta about 7 times and I'm still pretty confused. Especially story stuff. At somepoint I realized Cereza was Bayonetta and that the person you played as during the flashback stuff was Bayonetta's mom (I think.) But Jeanne was still the same age.

That said one of the best games this gen. Perfect in terms of gameplay.

Edited by CptBedlam

Bayonetta is weird. I do remember snippets that make absolutely no sense, almost as if I had a blackout after getting drunk. I still know that at some point I was driving a motorcycle upside a rocket that was flying into space... and then I must have passed out or or something and eventually everyone was dancing.

Posted by Pr1mus

@AlexW00d said:

@Pr1mus said:

I was thinking about that game recently and was wondering, did they ever fix the PS3 version?

I played it the day it came out on PS3. It was fine. The internet just did its thing and blew stuff out of proportion.

but but but.. the internet can't lie! And Ryan too in his review!

It's cool though, i was in the process of coming out with good reasons to not buy Metal Gear Rising because i'm broke and will probably get that instead.

Posted by Getz

Yep, Bayonetta was pretty good. I dunno. what else is there to say?

Posted by Demoskinos

I really liked the game but they should really balance the next one a bit better. There were really easy ways to exploit the combo system to ridiculous effect. Again, enjoyable but there were cracks in the combat system.

Posted by UlquioKani

Bayo is bitchin'

Posted by AlexW00d

@Pr1mus said:

I was thinking about that game recently and was wondering, did they ever fix the PS3 version?

I played it the day it came out on PS3. It was fine. The internet just did its thing and blew stuff out of proportion.

Posted by SpaceInsomniac
@Miketakon said:

@HisDudeness: Keep this in mind Resident Evil 4 was Nintendo exclusive at one point.

The problem with this logic is that Nintendo didn't publish Resident Evil 4 after Capcom sold them the rights to the entire franchise, because that's exactly what happened with Bayonetta. 
 
Sega is a company of fools, and Nintendo took advantage of that fact.
Posted by Make_Me_Mad

I am firmly on the side of "Bayonetta is one of the finest games ever made".

Posted by TobbRobb

Bayonetta is one of the best games of all time.

Yup.

Posted by Happenstance

I rented Bayonetta when it first came out and remember not liking it at all, cant remember why though. Lately I have been thinking that I probably didnt give it enough of a chance, which happened a lot when I only rented games so Im currently looking for a cheap copy of it to buy again and play through properly.

Posted by Blimble

Has to be one of my favourite games this generation. Platinum haven't made a bad game yet, I may even buy a WiiU just to play 2

Posted by ectoplasma

Bayonetta was my game of the year back then (2010? don't remember). I loved the story as well. I think it's really multi-layered and full of cross cultural reference work.

Edited by Gerriam

@JazGalaxy: Well, I'm 28 and Bayonetta is probably my game of the generation. There just was not a single other game that got me that excited to turn on my Xbox. Probably the only other game this generation that I had such agood time with was Mass Effect 2, but still I think I liked Bayonetta more. One of the main reasons that I got my Wii U was so that I could be able to experience the sequel.

I do think that it is easy to be put off by this game as it is just balls-out crazy. But, I don't know, there was just such a vibe to that game that just made me happy and made me want to continue playing...

So, I'm really sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience playing it.

Posted by Gamer_152

I think I liked it more than most people, but damn, that was a fantastic game, I have a great respect to Platinum for creating something of that quality. Like you said, a shame that Bayonetta 2 is tied solely to the Wii U, even if I thought I'd never see a sequel of that game anyway.

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Posted by JJOR64

Bayonetta is an amazing game. Arguably the best in the genre. Really looking forward to Bayonetta 2.

Edited by Bane122

I'm glad you liked it so much. Rarely has a game had me smiling so much when the credits rolled. It's easily one of my favorite games of all time, which has me both excited and a tad worried about the sequel.

I really wish Kamiya was at the helm again but Platinum is a pretty great studio so I have a good bit of faith that at least the gameplay will turn out well, it's the rest of the package I'm nervous about. The first game had a fantastic cast of likable characters and rode a knife's edge between awesome-stupid and just stupid, and it's that balance that I'm nervous the sequel may miss. Bayonetta could very easily have been a pretty sexist game but, they really pulled off the tongue-in-cheek vibe well.

Already got a Wii U so I'm set when 2 comes out.

@Pr1mus: Well, they cut the load times down (through an option to install IIRC) but it still has muddier visuals and a worse framerate than the 360 version. If you've not played it you shouldn't let that stop you. It's still a fantastic game and the PS3 version is by no means broken.

Posted by EXTomar

Bayonetta scenes make more sense if you turn off the audio and just watch the visuals.

Posted by TheManiacsGnome

@Miketakon: Completely different, Nintendo wasn't funding development and publishing RE4.

Posted by project343

@Klei said:

Bayonetta was awesome. Except for... it's story cutscenes. They started to get so bad in my nerves that I ended up skipping most of them, even the first time I played through. To this day, I have no clue what the storyline is about. And I beat it nearly 7 times. Yep.

I actually really enjoyed the cutscenes. I think her over-the-top persona is spectacular, I think the nonsensical story is exactly what I want from a game like this, and all the cinematic action is really well animated. It very much treads into the 'it's so bad it's good' territory.

Posted by Klei

Bayonetta was awesome. Except for... it's story cutscenes. They started to get so bad in my nerves that I ended up skipping most of them, even the first time I played through. To this day, I have no clue what the storyline is about. And I beat it nearly 7 times. Yep.

Posted by Pr1mus

I was thinking about that game recently and was wondering, did they ever fix the PS3 version?

Posted by Zebracal

I probably guess the exclusivity is one way to boost console sales. Just like what they did for Mad World and No More Heroes before. Then again in later years the sequels of those games were released into different consoles.

Posted by Miketakon

@HisDudeness: Keep this in mind Resident Evil 4 was Nintendo exclusive at one point.

Posted by JazGalaxy

@HisDudeness said:

(Sorry for the bad English). This always seemed like a must for me, but the fact that I owned a PS3 and the port always received poor reviews prevented me from buying it, because as a fan of Devil May Cry, I knew that a bad framerate really could ruin the experience for this kind of game. So when I finally set up my new shiny and slim Xbox 360, I started thinking of what game I could get that I previously couldn't play, and this one immediately popped into my mind. And I must say... it is mindblowing. I thought I would probably liked it, but nowhere near this. In fact, I could say it's probably my favorite action game for this entire generation. Doing the Climax on that final boss with that ''Fly Me To The Moon'' remix is absolutely unforgettable. The combo combat system is so fine tuned it hurts, and the amount of crazyness in the game fits the tone of the game just perfectly.

Such a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is being released as a Wii U exclusive, but it's better than no sequel at all... the industry really needs more games of this kind. A masterpiece.

Wow.

Take your entire scenario and set it up again replacing PS3 for Xbox 360 and you have my exact situation. Only I was so blown away by how terrible the game was, I couldn't finish it. It's honestly the worst game in my PS3 library.

As that one game developer got in trouble for saying, the game is almost entirely gibberish. Characters will randomly intersperse lines that are complete non-sequiters to what was going on just seconds before, and many of their motions and poses are lacking in sense. I tried to stand the story and voice acting for as long as I could and then just resolved to tune it out and just play the action game, except that the game doesn't control well enough to even be fun purely on it's game mechanics. I found myself having problems with the camera and the level design. Pretty much anything that wasn't combat was boring or frustrating.

I think I left off on a part where you're in some strange shangri-la place with waterfalls that you can walk on if you stop time or something? I'm not sure how far that is.

Anyhow, I honestly, for the life of me, don't understand why anyone would like this game. I also think it would interesting to find out how old the fans of this game are. Not to say that people who like it are immature, but I just wonder if it's a generational thing.

Posted by HisDudeness

@Miketakon said:

Bayonetta 2 will end up on a Xbox and a PlayStation.

I would love that to happen... but remember this is a Nintendo exclusive we're talking about, not something like Ninja Gaiden's Microsoft exclusivity.

Posted by Miketakon

Bayonetta 2 will end up on a Xbox and a PlayStation.

Posted by ImmortalSaiyan

Bayonetta is fantastic.

Posted by TheManiacsGnome

@LikeaSsur said:

@Canteu said:

@LikeaSsur: @TooWalrus: Alright, you guys are nutties! I work minimum wage, and the only reason i would consider buying a Wii-U would be for bayonetta 2. So maybe i'm crazy like you both are!

@Vonocourt: Only crazy people own a Wii-U!

I'm fortunate because I have Bayonetta 2 AND Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate to look forward to! Monster Hunter Tri basically justified my Wii existing, so I expect this will be the same story.

I think it's also a bit unfair to completely discount the Wii/Wii U. The Wii had a few interesting games, they just fell through the cracks a little to easily.

Posted by Canteu

@LikeaSsur: Damn son, you cray cray!

Posted by LikeaSsur

@Canteu said:

@LikeaSsur: @TooWalrus: Alright, you guys are nutties! I work minimum wage, and the only reason i would consider buying a Wii-U would be for bayonetta 2. So maybe i'm crazy like you both are!

@Vonocourt: Only crazy people own a Wii-U!

I'm fortunate because I have Bayonetta 2 AND Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate to look forward to! Monster Hunter Tri basically justified my Wii existing, so I expect this will be the same story.

Posted by PandaBear

@HisDudeness said:

(Sorry for the bad English). This always seemed like a must for me, but the fact that I owned a PS3 and the port always received poor reviews prevented me from buying it, because as a fan of Devil May Cry, I knew that a bad framerate really could ruin the experience for this kind of game. So when I finally set up my new shiny and slim Xbox 360, I started thinking of what game I could get that I previously couldn't play, and this one immediately popped into my mind. And I must say... it is mindblowing. I thought I would probably liked it, but nowhere near this. In fact, I could say it's probably my favorite action game for this entire generation. Doing the Climax on that final boss with that ''Fly Me To The Moon'' remix is absolutely unforgettable. The combo combat system is so fine tuned it hurts, and the amount of crazyness in the game fits the tone of the game just perfectly.

Such a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is being released as a Wii U exclusive, but it's better than no sequel at all... the industry really needs more games of this kind. A masterpiece.

Your English is better than 99% of the the people online who claim to speak it as a first language. And Bayonetta is right up there as the best game of this generation. It sucks the sequel is a Wii U exclusive, but Nintendo saved them game from SEGA ... but Sony or Microsoft really should have picked it up... or better yet, Capcom.

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