@Milkman said:@InsidiousTunaKlepek's closing statement from a previous article on games industry sexism is exceptionally relevant."I’m a guy, I’ve never had to deal with any of these problems. But I’m willing to admit where there’s smoke, there’s probably fire, and listening is helpful, informative. If you don’t want to listen, you don’t have to. No one is forcing you. Just stop shouting down others who want to."New strategy for these comments. Instead of going back and forth with people who make the same arguments over and over again, (by the way, I'm seeing a lot of familiar names from the other articles trying to shout down the sexism discussion again...very interesting, maybe that should tell us something) I'm going to point out all the posts that I agree with and make great points. Like this one!There's a difference between trying to "shout down the sexism discussion" and "disagreeing." People have been acting like it's only possible to be in one of two camps: the enlightened people who think this is horrible and sexist and misogynistic and want the game industry and society to grow, and sexists.I don't think this statue is sexist, but that doesn't make me a sexist. I think this statue is dumb and I think there are way better examples of sexism in the industry to focus on. I think that focusing on this one in this way, especially after the people who made it have apologized, cheapens any real discussion you can have about sexism in the industry. I think it's silly to keep harping on this just because Deep Silver didn't put "how this statue came to be" in the apology. If you believe it's a sexist statue, then you already know "how it came to be."I think this statue is pretty representative of the game it came from, and I don't remember people being up in arms when it was released just because there were zombies in bikinis. I think it's absolutely fucking insane that people have more of a problem with this statue than with the screenshot that's in the story right now. That's the game, people. This statue makes sense for that game. Why didn't you complain about the subject matter of the game two years ago when it was released? Why only now, when there's a physical representation of something that's been in the game for two years?And why would this not be offensive if it was a statue of a male torso? If you're saying it wouldn't be a sexual issue if it's a male torso, then you're saying that a) guys are so animalistic and primal in their sexuality and have no self-control that they'll even get turned on by a stupid bloody chest, and b) women are refined and sophisticated and not sexual so they wouldn't find a statue of a man's chest arousing in the slightest. That's sexist. If you're saying that it's because there's a history of violence against women that doesn't exist for men (there are plenty of problems with that statement but save that for another discussion) and this statue perpetuates that, then you need to take a look at the source material for this statue and realize that that's a totally irrelevant argument when you're talking about a game where you're killing male and female zombies in equal measure and gender doesn't matter.