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Posted by Little_Socrates

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.


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People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

He was raving on it for months and he didn't mention it at ALL during deliberations. It was just strange to me that he was so freely throwing out a 5-star, glowing review, but nobody talked about it during the millions of hours of podcasts that happened late last year. It was just suspect, is all.

It's worth noting that Brad uses "five-star review" as "A game I recommend without reservation" rather than Jeff's "This is probably going to be one of my favorite games of the year" four-star reviews. I don't mean to say that Brad's reviews are "forgiving," they're just built on a less personal and, also, less steep scale. Again, if Jeff gives a game a four-star review (Black Ops/Black Ops II,) it's liable to show up on his top 10 list. For Brad and Ryan, a 4-star review generally means "this game is totally functional but somehow misses the mark for me," as evidenced by Max Payne 3, Assassin's Creed III, Rage, and Nintendo Land (although I totally goddamned loved Nintendo Land.) That's obviously not always true, as Brad gave Dead Island a 4-star review and loved that game, as with Asura's Wrath, and Rock Band Blitz made Ryan's Top 10 as well.

But that's a very different world from Jeff's scoring, where many of the games he scores 4-stars tend to make his Top 10 lists. This year, Persona 4 Arena, Fez, Pinball Arcade, and Black Ops II all made his list, though it was mostly Fez's technical issues that kept it from receiving a five-star review. The only other four-star reviews he gave were for Mass Effect 3, Super Stardust Delta, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning, and Lumines Electronic Symphony, which are two Vita games, a game he felt had a lot more potential than delivery, and, well, Mass Effect 3, which might be the game with the most complicated reception in history.

I don't mean this so much as a criticism as a point. It took me a long time to figure out Brad's review rhythm. Now, I think I've got a handle on it. Leading up to Asura's Wrath, I took a 4-star review to be a death sentence, as I really disliked Rage and Dead Island. Once you figure out their review rhythms, it'll start to make sense.

This is a long tangent to get on in this thread. I don't think GTA delayed for GOTY prevalence, or because they were running away from The Last of Us. I figure they just needed more QA time and are taking it rather than shipping an unfinished game.

Posted by AngelN7

@AMyggen said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

He was raving on it for months and he didn't mention it at ALL during deliberations. It was just strange to me that he was so freely throwing out a 5-star, glowing review, but nobody talked about it during the millions of hours of podcasts that happened late last year. It was just suspect, is all.

They did mention D3 during one category, can't remember which, but it was mentioned on one of the podcasts. That proves that they didn't "forget" about the game, they probably just didn't think that it was good enough.

That's kinda silly that didn't stop Red Dead Redemption (came out in may) and Mass Effect 2 (January) for winning GOTY awards.

Posted by eddiephlash

Really? a Major blockbuster game is going to be released in September? Crazyness

Posted by jaffaz

@mrfluke: hehe... onus

Edited by Sooty

@radoman said:

Pfft might as well put it out on the next gen consoles then and a day one pc version would be nice too.

Why release it on new consoles that probably won't sell more than a few million within the first month when you can reach over 60 million of PS3/360 owners?

I think Rockstar are stretching their business sense here.

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@crusader8463 said:

Still zero news about the PC release huh? Shame. Hope Rockstar gets it crap together on the PC and we don't get another bs delay for a half backed PC port.

I reckon their will be one down the road, after the current gen and next gen versions of the game have been released, would be a real system seller a 1080p, 60FPS, DX11 version of GTA V on next gen consoles, wouldn't look as impressive along side the PC's that could do it better.

I reckon one of the oh shit moments at Microsoft's E3 conference will be them showing off game play of GTA V on the next Xbox.

Yeeeeeeeeeeah really doubt that next gen version is coming, it didn't with San Andreas, if they don't want to release it on PC around the same time there's no way they will support the small userbase the next gen consoles will have initially.

and that argument doesn't really make sense because they released the vastly superior version of Max Payne 3 on PC only 2-3 weeks after the console one, so I doubt they care about one version showing up the other.

Posted by TheHBK

@xyzygy said:

@ottoman673: Why would you doubt the next Xbox would be backwards compatible? It's essentially a PC. The PS3 on the other hand has a completely different architecture.

Because the Xbox 360 is using a PowerPC chip, and that is what the PS3's cell processor is essential except with the SPEs. Where the architectures between the 360 and PS3 differ greatly is the RAM allocation, with the PS3 having half dedicated solely to video/graphics. That is why Linux would only see 256 MB when you installed it and why games like Skyrim have so many problems and why games like Uncharted look so good. It would be easier to have the Original Xbox be backward compatible with the new Xbox720 since from reports, the Xbox720 will be using an x86 chip from AMD where as the Original Xbox used an x86 chip, basically a pentium 3.

Posted by Bourbon_Warrior

@crusader8463 said:

Still zero news about the PC release huh? Shame. Hope Rockstar gets it crap together on the PC and we don't get another bs delay for a half backed PC port.

I reckon their will be one down the road, after the current gen and next gen versions of the game have been released, would be a real system seller a 1080p, 60FPS, DX11 version of GTA V on next gen consoles, wouldn't look as impressive along side the PC's that could do it better.

I reckon one of the oh shit moments at Microsoft's E3 conference will be them showing off game play of GTA V on the next Xbox.

Posted by cclemon36

Hey, it's right around the time of my friend's birthday! I think I'll celebrate by completely ignoring him.

Posted by Bourbon_Warrior

@DrDarkStryfe said:

So this probably makes GTA thr last great AAA title of this generation. I love how Rockstar markets this title, they keep at it like its a decade ago by not flooding the media with videos and screenshots.

You could say the opposite with Bioshock Infinite, I am already sick of the game and haven't played it yet.

Posted by Phoenix87

Its should come out right now instead.

Posted by Pie

Argh was hoping the

"additional development time."

was for the PC version. Ah well

Posted by BaneFireLord

Awesome. Now it's releasing at a time where I will literally have no time/no capability to play it until the following May.

Posted by Bourbon_Warrior

@slyspider said:

Please tell me that its day and date PC and console? Otherwise..... I'm going to be sad :'(

Im thinking the next gen version will come out months before the PC release, because it will sell alot of Xbox 720's that impatient PC users will buy

Edited by crusader8463

Still zero news about the PC release huh? Shame. Hope Rockstar gets it crap together on the PC and we don't get another bs delay for a half backed PC port.

Posted by Jace

@ptc said:

All Spring releases just breathed a huge sigh of relief.

And anyone planning on going gold around the end of July is clenching their ass.

Posted by Tidel

I bet some folks at Rockstar finally played Sleeping Dogs and were all like, "Oh, shit."

Posted by ptc

All Spring releases just breathed a huge sigh of relief.

Posted by OfficeGamer

I just learned to relax when it comes to Rockstar. They make the best open world game ever, and by proxy (to me) the best game ever, but they just keep teasing and operating in weird ways.

Not to mention that I recently bought a new PC and this will be my first GTA on PC but if consoles = september 2013 then PC = 2014...... I just learned to relax when it comes to Rockstar. Plenty of games to play and things to do, no need for maddening hype.

Edited by Bourbon_Warrior

@ottoman673 said:

New consoles can't be coming out this year. Rockstar must know something we don't...

I don't see why they'd release such a high-profile title so close to new hardware. Either Durango/PS4 are going to be Backwards Compatible [doubt it, especially in Sony's case] or the hardware won't be out until Q1 2014. Take-Two and Rockstar bank on these titles for maximum sales, and if anything this seems like it's only going to hurt them.

I'll still get it because I love GTA, regardless. Just seems odd.

Maybe because GTA V will launch with the new Xbox?

Posted by DrDarkStryfe

So this probably makes GTA thr last great AAA title of this generation.

I love how Rockstar markets this title, they keep at it like its a decade ago by not flooding the media with videos and screenshots.

Posted by AMyggen

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

He was raving on it for months and he didn't mention it at ALL during deliberations. It was just strange to me that he was so freely throwing out a 5-star, glowing review, but nobody talked about it during the millions of hours of podcasts that happened late last year. It was just suspect, is all.

They did mention D3 during one category, can't remember which, but it was mentioned on one of the podcasts. That proves that they didn't "forget" about the game, they probably just didn't think that it was good enough.

Posted by Splodge

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

He was raving on it for months and he didn't mention it at ALL during deliberations. It was just strange to me that he was so freely throwing out a 5-star, glowing review, but nobody talked about it during the millions of hours of podcasts that happened late last year. It was just suspect, is all.

I think a lot (not all, a lot) of people who played Diablo III got bored of the grind and while they enjoyed the game immensely for a while, they did not go back for more. I haven't played it personally, but I have a friend who played it like 15 hrs a day for about three months, then just completely quit. Became a grind-fest for him.

Posted by Y2Ken

To be honest I was expecting this. Not a huge problem, at least it should still be out early enough to dive into before releases get too crazy.

Posted by MEATBALL

Excited to have a release date set in stone anyway, hype levels are going to be huge as we close in on September.

Posted by Zaxex

I never mind these delays. I'll take a more polished game later over a rushed one any day.

Posted by Apparatus_Unearth

Awesome. I'm willing to wait if it means there'll be extra polish on the game.

Posted by JohnB

My Budget Buddy is nodding his approval.

Posted by zyn

GET HYPE!

Posted by JordanaRama

Sucks, but I'm always in favor of a more polished game.

Good on them for aiming high, I guess.

Posted by LegendaryChopChop

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

He was raving on it for months and he didn't mention it at ALL during deliberations. It was just strange to me that he was so freely throwing out a 5-star, glowing review, but nobody talked about it during the millions of hours of podcasts that happened late last year. It was just suspect, is all.

Posted by Seanakin66

I still say it has to do with the fact Rockstar and 2K share the same parent company, and that TTWO wanted more than, say, seven weeks between releasing BioShock Infinite and GTAV.

Posted by Soap

Great, so this really will be the last thing I ever play on my PS3/360 as new consoles will be out the following month!

I am pretty pissed off about this, they better at least have a PS4/NXbox/PC version lined up for the same time as well with this extra six months.

Posted by pyrodactyl

@slyspider said:

Please tell me that its day and date PC and console? Otherwise..... I'm going to be sad :'(

They pretty much said it's not going to happen

Posted by slyspider

Please tell me that its day and date PC and console? Otherwise..... I'm going to be sad :'(

Posted by habibyjohnson

Hmm this sucks

But if it means we get a smoother game and not a rush-job then it also is a good thing. GTAV must not be rushed!!!

Posted by DJJoeJoe

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

Posted by Szlifier
@xyzygy said:

@ottoman673: Why would you doubt the next Xbox would be backwards compatible? It's essentially a PC. The PS3 on the other hand has a completely different architecture.

Xbox 360 is PowerPC architecture, it's not much less different to PC (x86) than the Cell. In fact they are both based on THE SAME IBM PowerPC Core. Backward compatibility is not going to happen on either of new consoles (both based on x86). There is not enough power boost to compensate the overhead of the emulation and they won't include old hardware in them, it would cost too much. 
 
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Posted by goatsoap

i am hoping this means there will be less of a gap between this and the inevitable pc release, rockstar did right by the pc version of max payne 3 and i hope they can do right again with gta v

Posted by ImmortalSaiyan

Is this the first big game slated for Q4 of this year? I expecting to see a bunch of next gen launch titles announced at E3.

Posted by Beaudacious

September means PC Release?

Posted by Superfriend

GTA deserves all the extra time they need. I just wonder what this means for potential next-gen versions of GTA V..

Posted by MildMolasses

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

Posted by algertman

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

It's rockstar. They will butter up the gaming press real good.

Posted by wchue

what ever man

Posted by BBQBram

Dude. Okay. Fuck.

Edited by pyrodactyl

@DeF said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

Sure but GTA is just on another level when it comes to mainstream hype. People (Brad) forgetting about Diablo III was probably more the game's fault than its release date.

Yeah, cause all those websites forgot about ME2 for GoTY when it came out in january...

Posted by liquidamerica

@LegendaryChopChop: people forgot about diablo 3 because that game was hot ass.

Posted by radoman

Pfft might as well put it out on the next gen consoles then and a day one pc version would be nice too.

Posted by MildMolasses

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

I think it's more likely that they are taking advantage of an empty quarter right before new consoles are put out. GTA games have never had a problem of being overlooked at goty time

Posted by jjm494

Hmmm, I wonder if this means that the new consoles are little farther off then we're anticipating. Is Spring 2014 a better bet as to when we'll see the next Xbox or PlayStation?

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