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Posted by Sumna

Moon is an amazing movie. Sam Rockwell should play Arthas.

Posted by Hunter5024

So my knowledge of movie budgets is relatively limited, but isn't 100 million somewhat low for a movie that will need lots of effects like this one?

Posted by LarryDavis

@Zuldim said:

@LarryDavis said:

@Zuldim said:

Ok, sure, I loved Moon, and The Source Code was pretty good, even if the ending didn't make much sense.

spoiler, none of source code made sense. :V

It was a fun, soft sci-fi thriller until the end, but in the last ~15 minutes it started contradicting the rules it set up earlier on how the "time travel" actually worked.

Not sure what you thought didn't make sense other than the end, I'd love to hear it.

Wasn't the "time travel" based on the remnants of memories the people on the train had? If that was the case, he shouldn't have been able to see anything that they couldn't like the bomb, or their reactions to things he did that never happened.

I dunno, I liked the movie overall, but that was kind of bugging me. If they hadn't bothered to give that explanation, and did just go "you're Quantum Leaping, whatever", it would have been fine.

Posted by eulogize_my_baked_goods

This is the craziest thing I've heard in ages. I love Jones' work but leading up a WoW movie? On the surface it seems an odd fit. Still, maybe this will be one of those gigs that will fund the kind of stuff he really excels at (read, thought provoking Sci-Fi) so is worth being attached to.

Posted by GinjaAssassin

@Wampa1 said:

@Branthog: I wouldn't this'll be his payday movie so he can go and make whatever he wants afterwards. And if it makes cash I bet he can pull an Nolan and mold his vision into big films.

Glad you made that point as I was having the same feelings as @Branthog. Worst comes to worst, it gives Jones more exposure - hopefully more good than bad.

Posted by Hunter5024

@eulogize_my_baked_goods said:

This is the craziest thing I've heard in ages. I love Jones' work but leading up a WoW movie? On the surface it seems an odd fit. Still, maybe this will be one of those gigs that will fund the kind of stuff he really excels at (read, thought provoking Sci-Fi) so is worth being attached to.

The skills required to do good sci-fi and good fantasy are relatively similar. They both fall under the banner of speculative fiction, and while they are the opposite of each other in many ways, they are still more closely related than most genres are.

Posted by flippyandnod

Duncan Jones was just getting too many kudos for making good movies. It was inevitable Hollywood would tap him to make a piece of shit.

So Jones decides to go big and go all the way to the limit and make a video game movie.

Such a horrible way to turn from wunderkind (aka early M. Night Shamayalan) to peddler of pap (aka current M. Night Shamayalan).

Posted by Doppelgamer

I really don't see this movie working out. The games were great fun, but the odds seem horribly set against films of this nature (game-based) doing well.

Edited by stinky

if its blizzard CG or better i'm in. 
hope the middle of the film isn't a grind though. 
 
vote is for Nefarian being the villain or the "you are not prepared" guy (BC) whose name i can't remember.  
 
ending credits should list loot won at the end as well. 

Posted by ch3burashka

Can't we all just admit this ain't happening?

Posted by DeviTiffany

The cynicism toward video game movies before we even see a second of footage makes me sad. It just continues to propagate a self fulfilling prophecy. No one will see the movie because they've already decided it's crap before it comes out so it doesn't make any money, and if studios don't think the movie will make money then they won't put any effort into it. I like waiting for a trailer or something before start getting all cynical about it.

Edited by frankfartmouth

Pppppbbbbbttt. Source Code and Moon were both good. I hate to see a skilled director go the way of the gaming movie. Someday somebody will crack the code, but until then, I'll safely assume it's going to suck shit.

EDIT: I'm glad Raimi backed out. Not a good sign for the movie though.

Edited by Darkstorn

Regardless of the quality of the film, is WoW still culturally significant enough for this movie to be successful?

I feel that apart from a few million addicts, the mainstream games press has moved on from WoW as a cultural touchstone, as has pop culture in general. Am I wrong?

EDIT: Just read that this is specifically a Warcraft movie, not a WoW movie. I don't think most of the moviegoing public distinguishes between WCII, WCIII and WoW, largely because those games are even older! Not to mention that they made much less of a mark on mainstream culture.

Posted by subyman

Live action?

Posted by Zuldim

@LarryDavis said:

@Zuldim said:

@LarryDavis said:

@Zuldim said:

Ok, sure, I loved Moon, and The Source Code was pretty good, even if the ending didn't make much sense.

spoiler, none of source code made sense. :V

It was a fun, soft sci-fi thriller until the end, but in the last ~15 minutes it started contradicting the rules it set up earlier on how the "time travel" actually worked.

Not sure what you thought didn't make sense other than the end, I'd love to hear it.

Wasn't the "time travel" based on the remnants of memories the people on the train had? If that was the case, he shouldn't have been able to see anything that they couldn't like the bomb, or their reactions to things he did that never happened.

I dunno, I liked the movie overall, but that was kind of bugging me. If they hadn't bothered to give that explanation, and did just go "you're Quantum Leaping, whatever", it would have been fine.

So that's a good point. The way I figure it (and the only thing which makes the ending make any sense at all) is that the scientist who made the machine didn't understand how it actually worked (I know that's stupid, but bear with me). He thought that it let you live out the memories of this other guy, Assassin's Creed style, but it actually did Quantum Leap you into this person, in another possible dimension. Thus, every time the train exploded, that train really exploded in another dimension, and then shocked What's-His-Name back, to go to another dimension.

At the ending, he actually makes a "perfect run" of the level, and so he doesn't die, and gets to continue on in this universe, living out some shmuck's life. The train never explodes, so the project never uses him to stop it in this dimension, and they wait for a disaster to use him with. (End film.) Eventually, another disaster happens, they use him to stop it, the same thing happens, he makes a "perfect run" of that dimension, and lives out some other regular shmuck's life (thus there are now two What's-His-Face's walking around in other people's bodies.

Now admittedly, that doesn't make total sense either, but it's the only thing which makes the ending anything other than nonsensical.

So yeah, you're right, that was a weird leap of logic, I'd rather they had just been quantum leaping properly instead.

Posted by probablytuna

I'd prefer Duncan Jones to focus on making his own materials cause Moon was freaking fantastic. I liked Source Code but not as much as his debut film. This isn't getting me very excited for the project.

Posted by Voysa_Reezun

Hey, I am all for this because I really like Duncan Jones. If this is a hit and it gives him enough cache to finally get funding for Mute, it will have been worth it. I might even see it, as much as I don't car about Warcraft at all, just because he's shooting it.

Posted by TooWalrus

Coming to theaters in twenty-oh-never.

Posted by RE_Player1

This will never get made.

Posted by hidys

say WHAT?????

Posted by Doctorchimp

@rebgav said:

@Undeadpool said:

@rebgav said:

@Undeadpool said:

Well he's a better director, so it's a step in the right direction. And I really never noticed HOW MUCH he looks like his dad...

@rebgav said:

@Hailinel said:

@zeekthegeek

@Doctorchimp said:

This better just end up being Labyrinth 2.

Well he is David Bowie's son.

That's the joke.

Nah, the "joke" is that Duncan Jones can't have a career or reputation of his own because his father was so successful.

"Hi, I'm Duncan Jones, director of 'Moon'."

YOU USED TO BE IN DAVID BOWIE'S BALLS!

It's a sadness.

As Max Landis pointed out: the idea of nepotism in Hollywood is somewhat overblown, no producer or company is going to let you make an entire movie just because you're someone's kid, they might as well buy you a HOUSE.

The fuck are you talking about? I was referring to the fact that, much as is on display in this thread, you can't say the man's name without everyone immediately blathering on about his father.

Duder, dial back a notch, I was AGREEING with you saying that it's sad that people think you could launch such a fantastic directing career just cause your dad's a famous singer (who you distanced yourself from by changing your name).

I was confused, not angry :p

I don't know if people think he's benefiting from being Bowie's son, they just seem to completely diminish or ignore him in favor of making Bowie references. I do wonder if it would be different if he used the name, it might mitigate some of the chatter 'cause there'd be little point in smugly pointing out who his family are.

Yup, I totally didn't support Moon and Source Code by tracking it down in the theaters and then buying the blu rays. I'm just making David Bowie jokes and diminishing this man's entire existence.

Sorry, but nothing this kid will do will top Major Tom...

How's that? Are you crying for the spawn of David Bowie now?

Posted by Evercaptor

Makes a change from them just ripping off movies like Kung Fu Panda, am I right?

Posted by Grixxel

Oh look, four years later and we're still talking about -maybe- making the movie! Phew! Here I thought it was never going to be made.

Posted by MeatSim

I can't believe someone is still trying to make this movie happen after all these years.

Posted by hollitz

Wonder if the movie will look like a PSONE game.

Posted by LarryDavis

@Zuldim: Actually, this is precisely what I was expecting the end twist to be, and I guess you could still interpret it that way. It just ended up going in a way stranger direction.

Dr. Jake Gyllenhaal never returned home.

Posted by Bourbon_Warrior

The guy that is famous for being David Bowies son.

Edited by Bourbon_Warrior

@Darkstorn said:

Regardless of the quality of the film, is WoW still culturally significant enough for this movie to be successful?

I feel that apart from a few million addicts, the mainstream games press has moved on from WoW as a cultural touchstone, as has pop culture in general. Am I wrong?

EDIT: Just read that this is specifically a Warcraft movie, not a WoW movie. I don't think most of the moviegoing public distinguishes between WCII, WCIII and WoW, largely because those games are even older! Not to mention that they made much less of a mark on mainstream culture.

Doesn't matter it's a fantasy movie, people will go. 10+ million subscribers will probably see it multiple times, plus buy the collectors edition Blu Rays and Merch. It just has to be a good movie, that is different enough from Peter Jacksons vision of middle earth or else it will just look like a LOTR rip off to the general public.

Posted by iainfarrell

I can't think of a better choice. I have high hopes, his previous work was creative, successful and I think he respects his stories.

Posted by Mushir

Moon was amazing. Source Code was shit. I don't completely trust this director yet.

Posted by moywar700

Where is my Runescape movie?

Posted by Nephrahim

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@Darkstorn said:

Regardless of the quality of the film, is WoW still culturally significant enough for this movie to be successful?

I feel that apart from a few million addicts, the mainstream games press has moved on from WoW as a cultural touchstone, as has pop culture in general. Am I wrong?

EDIT: Just read that this is specifically a Warcraft movie, not a WoW movie. I don't think most of the moviegoing public distinguishes between WCII, WCIII and WoW, largely because those games are even older! Not to mention that they made much less of a mark on mainstream culture.

Doesn't matter it's a fantasy movie, people will go. 10+ million subscribers will probably see it multiple times, plus buy the collectors edition Blu Rays and Merch. It just has to be a good movie, that is different enough from Peter Jacksons vision of middle earth or else it will just look like a LOTR rip off to the general public.

There are not 10 million WoW subscribers anymore, much less in North America (And I'm not sure what ticket prices are in places like China.) AND I doubt they will see it multiple times unless it is really great.

Edited by Bourbon_Warrior

@SamDrugbringer said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@Darkstorn said:

Regardless of the quality of the film, is WoW still culturally significant enough for this movie to be successful?

I feel that apart from a few million addicts, the mainstream games press has moved on from WoW as a cultural touchstone, as has pop culture in general. Am I wrong?

EDIT: Just read that this is specifically a Warcraft movie, not a WoW movie. I don't think most of the moviegoing public distinguishes between WCII, WCIII and WoW, largely because those games are even older! Not to mention that they made much less of a mark on mainstream culture.

Doesn't matter it's a fantasy movie, people will go. 10+ million subscribers will probably see it multiple times, plus buy the collectors edition Blu Rays and Merch. It just has to be a good movie, that is different enough from Peter Jacksons vision of middle earth or else it will just look like a LOTR rip off to the general public.

There are not 10 million WoW subscribers anymore, much less in North America (And I'm not sure what ticket prices are in places like China.) AND I doubt they will see it multiple times unless it is really great.

More than 10 million subscribers when Panda expansion was released last year, movies are released to more countries than USA and Canada.

Budget is 100 million dollars, meaning they would only need each subscriber of WOW to watch it once to be close to making back it's budget, plus other people than just WOW players will watch it, it's a fantasy movie.

Posted by Sharpless

@moywar700 said:

Where is my Runescape movie?

Direct-to-YouTube.

Posted by Discoman

Well I think the success of the movie hinges on if its more of a Warcraft movie than a WOW movie. Jones is a superb director and I hope he does well with this so he can get his Mute movie off the ground.

Posted by benpicko

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

The guy that is famous for being David Bowies son.

Have you actually seen any of the films that he's directed?

Posted by nerdsbeware

@Efesell said:

I (still) love WoW, but I'll never be interested in a movie unless its Blizzard CG.

Yea, this. But like others are saying, way past it's prime.

Posted by Nephrahim

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@SamDrugbringer said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@Darkstorn said:

Regardless of the quality of the film, is WoW still culturally significant enough for this movie to be successful?

I feel that apart from a few million addicts, the mainstream games press has moved on from WoW as a cultural touchstone, as has pop culture in general. Am I wrong?

EDIT: Just read that this is specifically a Warcraft movie, not a WoW movie. I don't think most of the moviegoing public distinguishes between WCII, WCIII and WoW, largely because those games are even older! Not to mention that they made much less of a mark on mainstream culture.

Doesn't matter it's a fantasy movie, people will go. 10+ million subscribers will probably see it multiple times, plus buy the collectors edition Blu Rays and Merch. It just has to be a good movie, that is different enough from Peter Jacksons vision of middle earth or else it will just look like a LOTR rip off to the general public.

There are not 10 million WoW subscribers anymore, much less in North America (And I'm not sure what ticket prices are in places like China.) AND I doubt they will see it multiple times unless it is really great.

More than 10 million subscribers when Panda expansion was released last year, movies are released to more countries than USA and Canada.

Budget is 100 million dollars, meaning they would only need each subscriber of WOW to watch it once to be close to making back it's budget, plus other people than just WOW players will watch it, it's a fantasy movie.

That was a LONG time ago. Most estimates are the player base has dropped even faster then it did during Cata. It's not 10 million.

And again, I really don't think every single person who plays the game will see a movie about it.

I mean, I'm not trying to say I don't think it'll make it's money back, I think there's a good chance, I just don't see WoW players being the driving audience for it anymore. Maybe ex-wow players, of which there are a LOT of, and fantasy movie fans in general like you said.

Edited by EXTomar

Even at 5 million that would make WoW the biggest MMO by a big margin.

As for a movie, as long as it is couched as a solid movie that just happens to be founded on WoW it can do fine. Stay away from the tin foil hat stuff and just do "evil bad guys want to rule the world but elves, dwarves, humans and orcs beat them up!" and it will be fine.

Posted by Coombs

Son of a bitch

If this movie re-ignites a desire to play WoW I am going to be very upset

Posted by Meltac

I thought he was waaay younger than 41, don't know why.

Posted by Nekroskop

Does watching the movie require a monthly subscription?

Posted by Mikular

I like this guy's movies, and the fact that he's the spawn of Bowie only sweetens the pot. Here's hoping he pulls something worthwhile out of this crap. Who knows, maybe I'll get an adaptation movie that I love unironically this time.

Edited by Krakn3Dfx

So this is that Choose Your Own Adventure Movie they were talking about.

I wonder if the first scene will be the main character beating sleeping peons with a blackjack.

Posted by horseman6

@Zuldim said:

@LarryDavis said:

@Zuldim said:

Ok, sure, I loved Moon, and The Source Code was pretty good, even if the ending didn't make much sense.

spoiler, none of source code made sense. :V

It was a fun, soft sci-fi thriller until the end, but in the last ~15 minutes it started contradicting the rules it set up earlier on how the "time travel" actually worked.

Not sure what you thought didn't make sense other than the end, I'd love to hear it.

There wasn't any time travel so it didn't really contradict itself.

Posted by Zuldim

@horseman6 said:

@Zuldim said:

@LarryDavis said:

@Zuldim said:

Ok, sure, I loved Moon, and The Source Code was pretty good, even if the ending didn't make much sense.

spoiler, none of source code made sense. :V

It was a fun, soft sci-fi thriller until the end, but in the last ~15 minutes it started contradicting the rules it set up earlier on how the "time travel" actually worked.

Not sure what you thought didn't make sense other than the end, I'd love to hear it.

There wasn't any time travel so it didn't really contradict itself.

According to the end of the movie it really was time travel after all though.
Posted by Stubee

Great Director but more importantly, he is David Bowie's son!

Posted by fisk0

@Discoman said:

Well I think the success of the movie hinges on if its more of a Warcraft movie than a WOW movie. Jones is a superb director and I hope he does well with this so he can get his Mute movie off the ground.

Yeah, I'm not sure about this. The WarCraft series have always had this weird contrast between the cutscenes and the tone in-game. Pretty serious and Warhammer derivative cutscenes, and then the kinda jokey in-game voice acting. The first three games were still pretty serious and story heavy over all, but WOW pretty much degraded into a collection of pop culture references set amongst the setpieces of a fantasy game.

I'm not quite sure what's even disctinctively WarCraft anymore, the RTS games are getting quite old at this point, and are probably unrecognizable as WarCraft for the current WOW fans, and if the movie follows in the footsteps of WOW it would pretty much just become an Seltzer/Friedberg Lord of the Rings parody movie.

Posted by Svenzon

Half of the dialogue will be quotes from other media, if Blizzard's own writing is anything to go by. All the obnoxious references had a huge part in me not sticking with World of Warcraft.

If you look at it from the bright side, however, this will probably make a lot of money for Jones and he'll be able to make that loose sci-fi trilogy he's been talking about. Moon is supposed to be the first, with one direct follow-up and one "spiritual" sequel set in the same universe.

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