The end of a Hayter Snake era?

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Posted by Aegon (3526 posts) 2 months, 21 days ago

The end of a Hayter Snake era? (79 votes)

Tired of it. 38%
He's rich, bitch! 37%
They want someone else. 25%

So Mr. Hayter posed an "informal" question to the twitterverse:

Informal Poll: How would you react if I didn't play Snake in the next Metal Gear?@HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN @Konami

Now, what does this mean?

1) Is he just tired of voicing Snake?

2) Does it just not pay enough for him to justify spending his time on it? His net worth is apparently 13 million which is not surprising if you know that he's the writer for several popular movies X-Men, X2, Scorpion, Watchmen (I guess that's a cult hit, right?) IS YOUR MIND BLOWN?

3) Konami wants someone else

NOTICE THIS IN THE TWEET? He linked Kojima and Konami to the twitter post. Is this because he wants to suggest something to them? Or is this because they asked him to throw a feeler out and wanted to see the responses.

#1 Posted by Yummylee (18156 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I already knew that he was a successful screenwriter so my mind is still intact! Anywhoo David sounded really gravelly during Peace Walker, even more so than when he was voicing Old Snake in MGS4. I hafta wonder if his voice simply can't take the pressure of voicing such a character anymore.

I once suggested that they lighten up Richard Doyle's voice and have him return as Big Boss in Ground Zeroes, but I dunno. It sucks to imagine that there'll be an MGS game starring Snake that isn't voiced by David, but if it's too much then I wouldn't want him to damage his cords or something for the sake of the role. Plus it'd be... interesting to hear who his replacement would be.

#2 Edited by Hailinel (18121 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I'd say don't read too much into it. It's just an informal question and has absolutely nothing to do with Hayter's desire or lack thereof to continue voicing Snake.

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#3 Posted by FourWude (1994 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

Snaku!

Snakuuu!!

SNAKUUUUUUUUU!!!

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#4 Posted by MariachiMacabre (5369 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

His Watchmen screenplay was fucking butchered too. I don't remember where I read about it but he had a lot of really good ideas (like the fact that it took place in modern times) and Alan Moore even said it was the closest thing he could imagine a screenplay getting to Watchmen. It's a real shame.

#5 Posted by Oldirtybearon (3098 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

His Watchmen screenplay was fucking butchered too. I don't remember where I read about it but he had a lot of really good ideas (like the fact that it took place in modern times) and Alan Moore even said it was the closest thing he could imagine a screenplay getting to Watchmen. It's a real shame.

Truly high praise from that cynical bastard.

In any event, I imagine Konami or Kojima is eyeing a potential replacement. Hayter sounded really rough during MGS4 and even worse during Peace Walker. It's like he can't even emote in the voice anymore and it takes all he's got just to do it. At this point he should probably stop before he does permanent vocal damage.

#6 Posted by killacam (1131 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I don't understand the poll answers, but it would feel weird without him...

#7 Posted by Aegon (3526 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@killacam said:

I don't understand the poll answers

Did you read the accompanying post?

#8 Posted by Oni (1925 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

Guys, what if... Nolan North is the new Solid Snake! Huh?! Think about it. Or don't.

Yeah idk I can see him being over it, or it being too hard on his vocal cords. Snake's voice has sounded more forced with every MGS game, to me.

They could get Adam Jensen's VA from Human Revolution, he's not too far off I guess?

#9 Edited by killacam (1131 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@aegon: Yeah... I just wanted an option to profess my love for that rugged voice. Oh. I just noticed the numbered paragraphs coincide to.. ugh. I'm going to bed.

#10 Edited by selfconfessedcynic (1649 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I'd be sad to see him go : /

My question isn't really why he's asking, as I assume he has his reasons - but do I want a new Snake to be doing a Hayter impression, or give the character his own spin?

I just don't know... I think I land on the side of "fuck it, give it your own spin - just don't make it too different from who the character is now"

#11 Edited by Yummylee (18156 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago
@oni said:

Guys, what if... Nolan North is the new Solid Snake! Huh?! Think about it. Or don't.

Yeah idk I can see him being over it, or it being too hard on his vocal cords. Snake's voice has sounded more forced with every MGS game, to me.

They could get Adam Jensen's VA from Human Revolution, he's not too far off I guess?

John Cygan could possibly work and would even make sense too, considering that Solidus Snake is the one that came closest to being a perfect clone of Big Boss. He's a great voice actor at that, so chalk it up to middle age or whatever as to why he sounds so different and go from there.

edit: Also, I love that the blurb for John Cygon's page is simply ''John Cygan is an actor''.

#12 Posted by frankfartmouth (906 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I have a soft spot for him, but I'd honestly like the leafblower voice to be toned down a little bit. It's fun and all, but it would be nice to hear something different for a change. Even if it's him doing a different take. That would be fine too.

#13 Edited by thebunnyhunter (699 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I would be a little sad if he didn't voice Snake in the next game, but i wouldnt hold it against Hayter if he stopped. It certainly wouldnt be the same to me though.

#14 Posted by Aegon (3526 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I have a soft spot for him, but I'd honestly like the leafblower voice to be toned down a little bit. It's fun and all, but it would be nice to hear something different for a change. Even if it's him doing a different take. That would be fine too.

Yeah, I think if he can just tone down the gravelliness it'd be fine.

#15 Edited by Krullban (307 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@mariachimacabre said:

His Watchmen screenplay was fucking butchered too. I don't remember where I read about it but he had a lot of really good ideas (like the fact that it took place in modern times) and Alan Moore even said it was the closest thing he could imagine a screenplay getting to Watchmen. It's a real shame.

Truly high praise from that cynical bastard.

In any event, I imagine Konami or Kojima is eyeing a potential replacement. Hayter sounded really rough during MGS4 and even worse during Peace Walker. It's like he can't even emote in the voice anymore and it takes all he's got just to do it. At this point he should probably stop before he does permanent vocal damage.

I think him sounding rough in MGS4 was intentional beings as he was old as fuck and still smoking constantly.

#16 Posted by Yummylee (18156 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@krullban said:

@oldirtybearon said:

@mariachimacabre said:

His Watchmen screenplay was fucking butchered too. I don't remember where I read about it but he had a lot of really good ideas (like the fact that it took place in modern times) and Alan Moore even said it was the closest thing he could imagine a screenplay getting to Watchmen. It's a real shame.

Truly high praise from that cynical bastard.

In any event, I imagine Konami or Kojima is eyeing a potential replacement. Hayter sounded really rough during MGS4 and even worse during Peace Walker. It's like he can't even emote in the voice anymore and it takes all he's got just to do it. At this point he should probably stop before he does permanent vocal damage.

I think him sounding rough in MGS4 was intentional beings as he was old as fuck and still smoking constantly.

Yeah, but that wouldn't explain why he would add even more gravel to playing an early 40-something year old Big Boss.

#17 Edited by TheHumanDove (2008 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago
@aegon said:

@frankfartmouth said:

I have a soft spot for him, but I'd honestly like the leafblower voice to be toned down a little bit. It's fun and all, but it would be nice to hear something different for a change. Even if it's him doing a different take. That would be fine too.

Yeah, I think if he can just tone down the gravelliness it'd be fine.

Killing the trademark voice of Snake? Nice.

#18 Posted by MariachiMacabre (5369 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he stopped voicing Snake. It's a really gravelly voice that I bet is REALLY rough on dem vocal cords.

#19 Posted by Pr1mus (2441 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

They could probably find someone that sound just like him. It's not like his everyday voice is anything like Snake anyway.

They have to. It just wouldn't work if the character sounded like a different person. Older, but not different. Or as Yummylee suggested get John Cygan and continue along the path of sounding more and more like Big Boss.

#20 Posted by Darklight (163 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago
#21 Edited by Oldirtybearon (3098 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@aegon said:

@frankfartmouth said:

I have a soft spot for him, but I'd honestly like the leafblower voice to be toned down a little bit. It's fun and all, but it would be nice to hear something different for a change. Even if it's him doing a different take. That would be fine too.

Yeah, I think if he can just tone down the gravelliness it'd be fine.

Killing the trademark voice of Snake? Nice.

Listen to his voice recordings from MGS1 and 2. Compare and contrast against MGS4 and his latest performance, Peace Walker. It's not gravelly anymore, it's downright death-bed raspy.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he stopped voicing Snake. It's a really gravelly voice that I bet is REALLY rough on dem vocal cords.

I remember an episode of Electronic Playground (show about video games that existed for something like 10-15 years in Canada) that interviewed him. In that interview he was asked specifically how he got the voice and his answer was "I drink whiskey and then spit a line." I don't know if he was joking or not, because the next thing he did was down a shot of Jack and spit some game.

#22 Posted by Morbid_Coffee (944 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

Snake is now voiced by Nolan North, Troy Baker, and Yuri Lowenthal all at the same time.


Thanks, internet!

#23 Posted by Gargantuan (1809 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

Another voice actor would be an improvement. Can't stand Snake's voice.

#24 Posted by Demoskinos (9028 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

This is why I want Metal Gear Solid to go away. I love the series but It will just be ruined for me if another person voices snake.

#25 Posted by Pr1mus (2441 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

Kojima will figure a way to justify Snake needing urgent surgery in which they replace his kidney with one from Meryl. Following the operation Meryl's spirit slowly takes over Snake's body and Snake can then be voiced by Meryl's voice actress.

#26 Edited by 49th (1796 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I feel like the defining thing of Snake is the bad ass voice, I would be disappointed if someone else voiced him.

#27 Edited by Yummylee (18156 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago
@pr1mus said:

Kojima will figure a way to justify Snake needing urgent surgery in which they replace his kidney with one from Meryl. Following the operation Meryl's spirit slowly takes over Snake's body and Snake can then be voiced by Meryl's voice actress.

He's already figured a way. He's found the ultimate resource for explaining anything and everything that may or may not happen in the MGS universe. So long as you remember, ''Nanomachines, son'', then the sky's the limit.

#28 Edited by Morbid_Coffee (944 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago
#29 Posted by StarvingGamer (5974 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

None of the above

#30 Posted by SlashDance (1217 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

What's he got to do that's so important that he would refuse the role ? Guyver 3 ?

#31 Posted by Hailinel (18121 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@yummylee said:
@pr1mus said:

Kojima will figure a way to justify Snake needing urgent surgery in which they replace his kidney with one from Meryl. Following the operation Meryl's spirit slowly takes over Snake's body and Snake can then be voiced by Meryl's voice actress.

He's already figured a way. He's found the ultimate resource forexplaining anything and everything that may or may not happen in the MGS uniform. So long as you remember, ''Nanomachines, son'', then the sky's the limit.

Or they could just kill Solid Snake off and be done with the character because after MGS4, there's really nowhere else for him to go.

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#32 Edited by Yummylee (18156 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago
@hailinel said:

@yummylee said:
@pr1mus said:

Kojima will figure a way to justify Snake needing urgent surgery in which they replace his kidney with one from Meryl. Following the operation Meryl's spirit slowly takes over Snake's body and Snake can then be voiced by Meryl's voice actress.

He's already figured a way. He's found the ultimate resource for explaining anything and everything that may or may not happen in the MGS universe. So long as you remember, ''Nanomachines, son'', then the sky's the limit.

Or they could just kill Solid Snake off and be done with the character because after MGS4, there's really nowhere else for him to go.

I'm sure they could fit him into a cyborg body or something, if the business end were to really push Kojima enough like they did when it came time to decide if he'll shoot himself or not at the end of MGS4.... /sigh

That or they'll just keep making Big Boss prequels.

#33 Edited by Karkarov (1913 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

They can put whoever they want doing the voice, all I will hear is David Hayter though.

#34 Posted by Hailinel (18121 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@yummylee said:
@hailinel said:

@yummylee said:
@pr1mus said:

Kojima will figure a way to justify Snake needing urgent surgery in which they replace his kidney with one from Meryl. Following the operation Meryl's spirit slowly takes over Snake's body and Snake can then be voiced by Meryl's voice actress.

He's already figured a way. He's found the ultimate resource for explaining anything and everything that may or may not happen in the MGS universe. So long as you remember, ''Nanomachines, son'', then the sky's the limit.

Or they could just kill Solid Snake off and be done with the character because after MGS4, there's really nowhere else for him to go.

I'm sure they could fit him into a cyborg body or something, if the business end were to really push Kojima enough like they did when it came time to decide if he'll shoot himself or not at the end of MGS4.... /sigh

That or they'll just keep making Big Boss prequels.

I want a Rising prequel where you play as cyborg ninja Gray Fox and fight a mad science Para-Medic.

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#35 Posted by cmblasko (601 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I had no idea that people thought Hayter sounded bad as Big Boss in Peace Walker. I thought he portrayed BB's sullen and disconnected state of mind very well through his voice acting.

It would be disappointing to me if they go with another actor for Snake/Big Boss in Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain/whatever. I can understand the reasoning behind it but it will be difficult for me to associate those characters with any other voice.

#36 Posted by Aegon (3526 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@karkarov said:

They can put whoever they want doing the voice, all I will hear is David Hayter though.

Now THAT is a different approach.

#37 Edited by dungbootle (2247 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

Read his other tweets, it's pretty clear he presented that query because he wanted to keep voicing the Snakes but Konami had not contacted him for Ground Zeroes

#38 Posted by Morbid_Coffee (944 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago
#39 Edited by probablytuna (2524 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

There is no Snake without Hayter.

#40 Edited by Yummylee (18156 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@hailinel: If we're talking dream prequels here (drequels...), then I would also love a game starring The Boss, potentially revolving around her relationship with The Sorrow. That and a reimagined Metal Gear 1 and 2 based around the antagonism introduced between Solid Snake and Big Boss. But I'd otherwise be happy if we could just move forward with the story, too.

Rising was at least a good start, introducing the state of the universe with its post-S.O.P. setting and all.

#41 Posted by BigBoss1911 (2254 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

Hayter is Snake.

#42 Posted by mandude (2523 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I have no idea what your poll options mean. Also:

Hayter is Snake.

#43 Posted by Azteck (7330 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago
#44 Edited by SgtSphynx (455 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I view it the same way as I view the Joker. Hayter is Snake the same way Hamill is the Joker. Now if they have to stop doing the voice for whatever reason, I would rather they kill off the character kinda like the end of Arkham City.

#45 Posted by TooWalrus (11831 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

I can't deal with this.

#46 Posted by Enigma777 (5973 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

His voice was practically falling apart in Peace Walker. In MGS4 old Big Boss was voiced by Richard Doyle, so if they switched voice actors with him, it could conceivably make sense. After all, Big Boss is getting on in years...

#47 Posted by Reisz (486 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

They could really shake it up and bring in Michael Ironside to voice Snake. In all seriousness though, If there is a game starring Snake/Younger Big Boss that isn't voiced by Hayter I will likely listen to the Japanese language track if available. David Hayter is as much a part of Metal Gear's presentation to me as Yoji Shinkawa's unique designs. That Having been said I'd be behind him all the way if he needs to leave the role. Everyone wants to move onto new things eventually and I'd love to see his work in something else, hell have him write the MGS screenplay.

#48 Edited by Aegon (3526 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@mandude said:

I have no idea what your poll options mean. Also:

That's why it's nice when people read the post accompanying it.

#49 Posted by OmegaPirate (5443 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

@pr1mus said:

Kojima will figure a way to justify Snake needing urgent surgery in which they replace his kidney with one from Meryl. Following the operation Meryl's spirit slowly takes over Snake's body and Snake can then be voiced by Meryl's voice actress.

IM IN!

#50 Edited by OfficeGamer (1024 posts) - 2 months, 21 days ago

He wawnts more moneh.

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