Delete: Games people have died while playing

Inspired by ajamafalous' thread on the concept in question's board, Games people have died while playing does not warrant a concept page, as it is something related to gaming culture and not any feature contained in these games whatsoever.  The fact that people have died while playing these games is merely coincidence (OR IS IT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!). 
 
Either way, this would make a fine list.  But it shouldn't be a concept.

Things related to gaming culture are more than welcome to have concept pages. It doesn't have to be a feature contained within a game. And I'd say this makes a pretty fine concept.

Also, some of these stories have people being murdered that were NOT playing the game.

So if an old man keels over while playing Wii Sports bowling, or Super Mario Bros., or Quake, those games should be added to the page?
 
I'm sure that there are a number of unfortunate coincidences that would make games fit the criteria that aren't publicized, and frankly, there's a very morbid sense to the whole thing.
 
Also:

"Dude, bro!  Did you hear about the guy that totally choked to death on a chicken bone while playing Barbie Horse Adventures?"

Hmm, I find myself disagreeing with Matty for once. How is this concept any better than something like "Games people have watched other people play" or "Games people saw on TV before they bought them"? Those (and this) are lists, not concepts IMO. Concepts are properties of games; lists are compilations of games that meet a circumstance or opinion. This fits the latter, not the former. IMO, of course.

It shouldn't be a concept because a game's only in there if it's been reported by somewhere that someone died playing it. In that case, who reported it? Is that source credible? How do they know the person died playing the game and that it's not unrelated (dude makes a sandwhich and trips over his cat on his way back to his console) or did they just fabricate it to make it a more interesting story. How well-known does the reporting outlet have to be before it can go on this page? If I make a blog and write "my gran died while playing Custer's Revenge" does it then qualify to be on this page, what if Fox News reports that it happened, is that enough?
 
I agree with risseless that this is for a list, not a concept.

" Hmm, I find myself disagreeing with Matty for once. How is this concept any better than something like "Games people have watched other people play" or "Games people saw on TV before they bought them"? Those (and this) are lists, not concepts IMO. Concepts are properties of games; lists are compilations of games that meet a circumstance or opinion. This fits the latter, not the former. IMO, of course. "

I dont see why not.

That's interesting

Well written page at least.

The thought of this as a concept page leaves me uneasy. 
If anyone wants my opinion. 

I'm not sure about this concept....

This should be a list.

Maybe respecify to "game related deaths"? There are plenty of cases where gamers have killed eachother because of an in-game argument, just not while either of them was playing a game. Many MMO related ones.
 
I seem to recall an incident where an Everquest (II?) player curb-stomped his leaderboard rival  just outside a bar somewhere, killing him.

" I seem to recall an incident where an Everquest (II?) player curb-stomped his leaderboard rival  just outside a bar somewhere, killing him. "

" @S0ndor said:

" I seem to recall an incident where an Everquest (II?) player curb-stomped his leaderboard rival  just outside a bar somewhere, killing him. "

Dude, what? "

 "Dude, bro!  Did you hear about the guy that totally choked to death on a chicken bone while playing Barbie Horse Adventures?"

" @Hailinel said:

 "Dude, bro!  Did you hear about the guy that totally choked to death on a chicken bone while playing Barbie Horse Adventures?"

That's fairly easy to guard against: only deaths DIRECTLY RELATING to the game, like whenever you hear about some guy in China who died from too much World of Warcraft or something like that. ) "

" Maybe respecify to "game related deaths"? There are plenty of cases where gamers have killed eachother because of an in-game argument, just not while either of them was playing a game. Many MMO related ones.  I seem to recall an incident where an Everquest (II?) player curb-stomped his leaderboard rival  just outside a bar somewhere, killing him. "

" @S0ndor said:

" Maybe respecify to "game related deaths"? There are plenty of cases where gamers have killed eachother because of an in-game argument, just not while either of them was playing a game. Many MMO related ones.  I seem to recall an incident where an Everquest (II?) player curb-stomped his leaderboard rival  just outside a bar somewhere, killing him. "

Sounds good to me. That would make it more reasonable and not so incidental. "

" @Hailinel: You just described how it currently is. If I had to choose, I'd say delete it and be done with it. But necessitating the conditions of the death to be directly related to the game would at least be better. "

" @Kamasama said:

" @Hailinel: You just described how it currently is. If I had to choose, I'd say delete it and be done with it. But necessitating the conditions of the death to be directly related to the game would at least be better. "

Except it's still not the games themselves that were responsible for the deaths.  People go on extended marathon sessions of games all the time, but if someone takes that to an extreme and their hearts end up giving out, that's not really indicative of the need for a concept.  That's just a list. "

" @Hailinel said:

" @Kamasama said:

" @Hailinel: You just described how it currently is. If I had to choose, I'd say delete it and be done with it. But necessitating the conditions of the death to be directly related to the game would at least be better. "

Except it's still not the games themselves that were responsible for the deaths.  People go on extended marathon sessions of games all the time, but if someone takes that to an extreme and their hearts end up giving out, that's not really indicative of the need for a concept.  That's just a list. "

Responsibility is a tricky thing. The game may not be the direct cause of death, but that doesn't mean it didn't play a role. I'm not talking about when someone is just playing the game and happens to have a heart attack, which is what would be covered now, since that would have likely happened at that time regardless of if they were playing the game. However, if the game prompted the heart attack (e.g. from a scary moment) then it would have played a role. Like Matty said, subjects on gaming culture are allowed. There is a valid concept for Movies Inspired By Games (which is a poor title but that's beside the point), because even though the game didn't make the movie it prompted the production. Although I feel the need to again say, if I were to choose it would be to just delete it. "

" Things related to gaming culture are more than welcome to have concept pages. It doesn't have to be a feature contained within a game. And I'd say this makes a pretty fine concept. "

 But there's nothing that says that any death is actually caused by a video game.  There are people who completely forget responsibility, health, and hygiene to a deadly degree, but that's a fault of the person playing the game and not the game itself.    

Pretty sure wow holds the record for 'game related death', its something like 10 people by now. All dead because they got so addicted they forgot to eat/drink/move/use toilet lol
Though yeah I don't think theirs ever really been a game that specifically caused death just by being played, that like fox-news logic right there.  Stupid people cause death and games get blamed.
 
Games have directly lead to me finding a girlfriend, more friends and money though but positive stuff is boring right? lol

wtf? why not, it's a fun concept.

" wtf? why not, it's a fun concept. "

There's no qualities about these games that make them any more or less lethal than any other game.  It's fun, which is why it would make a fun list.  But concepts are supposed to be about things actually in games, and this ain't. "

The only version of this concept I could see as being acceptable is 'Games which people have killed someone over'. That way the game is the reason why somebody ended up dying.

" The only version of this concept I could see as being acceptable is 'Games which people have killed someone over'. That way the game is the reason why somebody ended up dying. "

I think Jeff is going to have to give the final word on this one.