Delete or Combine: Willamette Mall, Willamette, Colorado

There are currently separate pages for the town of Willamette, Colorado, the setting of Dead Rising, and for the Willamette Mall, where the game actually took place. There isn't enough information on these topics to justify separate pages, especially as you can never actually leave the mall and wander around Willamette itself. Delete one, combine them both into one article, I don't really care which, but we cannot leave things this way.

Doesn't the opening scene take place outside the mall? I'm not certain, but that part could count as taking place in Willamette itself.

Yeah But I guess you could put a section about the town in the mall page, since most of the game takes place in the mall, or vice versa if you like. 

" but we cannot leave things this way. "

"There isn't enough information on these topics to justify separate pages"

"StarFoxA said:

"Villagers in Animal Crossing can get pages, so lack of information shouldn't be a reason to not have a page."

See, I don't understand this line of thinking.  Shouldn't the goal be to have less pages with more detail than more pages with little to nothing on them?

That said, while I don't think it's necessary to have character pages for each and every character in Animal Crossing (as unless they're Tom Nook or Tortimer or someone of that importance, their personality is going to be as randomized as they are), I can see the argument for why having character pages for every neighbor, as it can change someone's view of the game.  Willamette, however, is pointless.  There's absolutely nothing additional to say about the town aside from that it is the home of Willamette Mall.  It's essentially having two pages for the same thing.

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Being extensive and not having a page for everything under the sun are not mutually exclusive.

"See, I don't understand this line of thinking.  Shouldn't the goal be to have less pages with more detail than more pages with little to nothing on them?

That said, while I don't think it's necessary to have character pages for each and every character in Animal Crossing (as unless they're Tom Nook or Tortimer or someone of that importance, their personality is going to be as randomized as they are), I can see the argument for why having character pages for every neighbor, as it can change someone's view of the game.  Willamette, however, is pointless.  There's absolutely nothing additional to say about the town aside from that it is the home of Willamette Mall.  It's essentially having two pages for the same thing.

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"They aren't the same thing though, they are two different locations. The mall within Willamette and the city of Willamette. They both deserve location pages because they both exist within the Dead Rising universe."

"Being extensive and not having a page for everything under the sun are not mutually exclusive."

" And yet there's absolutely no significance of Willamette, CO in Dead Rising outside of the fact that it is the home of Willamette Parkview Mall.  The only sense of a world you get in Dead Rising is the mall itself - it could be any city in any state in any country and nothing about the game would be different in any way whatsoever aside from the flyover in the prologue.  That makes it pretty non-notable if you ask me.

(I may or may not be playing Devil's Advocate)

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The rules state "In cases where one location encapsulates another, the association should be made to the more specific location. For example, Resident Evil 2 would be attached to the Raccoon City page, rather than the Earth page." So Willamette should only have a page if Dead Rising features more of Willamette than just Willamette Parkview Mall. Since I'm not too familiar with the game, I'm not sure if that is the case.

"The rules state "In cases where one location encapsulates another, the association should be made to the more specific location. For example, Resident Evil 2 would be attached to the Raccoon City page, rather than the Earth page." So Willamette should only have a page if Dead Rising features more of Willamette than just Willamette Parkview Mall. Since I'm not too familiar with the game, I'm not sure if that is the case."

I agree with iAmJohn, the database doesn't have to include every single character, object, and location just because it can. Are we gonna have pages for all the different varieties of zombies from Dead Rising as well? "Bald Zombie in a Blue Hoodie"? "Ugly Old Lady Zombie"? "Female Zombie Who Lost Her Pants"?

I also have something else to add: technically it's called the Willamette Parkview Mall, not just the Willamette Mall. So at the very least, that page should be renamed.

"I agree with iAmJohn, the database doesn't have to include every single character, object, and location just because it can. Are we gonna have pages for all the different varieties of zombies from Dead Rising as well? "Bald Zombie in a Blue Hoodie"? "Ugly Old Lady Zombie"? "Female Zombie Who Lost Her Pants"?

I also have something else to add: technically it's called the Willamette Parkview Mall, not just the Willamette Mall. So at the very least, that page should be renamed. "

I'm fine with this really, it's a location from the game so it should be added to the database.

The name of the mall should indeed be renamed, could a mod who does not have a broken PC do take care of that?

"But that quote appears to be a guide relating to which locations should be attached to a game, not which locations pages should be created."

"Then we'd have a location page that doesn't actually have any games attached. Unless there's something notable about Willamette that you could write an article about, I don't see a need for such a page."

Those are fine because parts of the game actually take place there. GTA IV takes place in Liberty City and can also go to Alderney. Virdian City is one of many locations that you can visit in the Pokémon games.

Besides the mall, what other areas of Willamette are there that actually appear in the game. From what I've seen, it's just the mall and a short period of time outside the mall. Does that bit outside the mall count as Willamette? Because if not, then Willamette does not deserve a page. As you said, there isn't even anything in Willamette besides the mall.

I'm staying the hell out of this, but you do spend the beginning of the game flying in a helicopter over Willamette, and this part is interactive (barely).  You see some citizens and buildings outside of the mall area, therefore time is spent in the actual city outside of the mall.

Really don't care either way, I was just bored and saw this topic.

"Those are fine because parts of the game actually take place there. GTA IV takes place in Liberty City and can also go to Alderney. Virdian City is one of many locations that you can visit in the Pokémon games. Besides the mall, what other areas of Willamette are there that actually appear in the game. From what I've seen, it's just the mall and a short period of time outside the mall. Does that bit outside the mall count as Willamette? Because if not, then Willamette does not deserve a page. As you said, there isn't even anything in Willamette besides the mall."

"You're in Willamette though, that's my point. The entire game you are in the city of Willamette in the mall that is located within the city limits, which yes, you do technically fly over when you enter the game. In any case I've more than spoken my piece and I think I'm going to exit out of this discussion. I'm interested to see if this ever gets a decision..."