I feel bad about this but I like Destiny

I'm enjoying this game? Despite all my best intentions I sort of genuinely am liking the game (it does help that it's my brother's copy I suppose). I've played almost entirely by myself and despite itself the game has somehow drawn me in, like a cavernous... ahem. The turning point for me was just patrolling on Venus with a new gun, shortly after cheesing the fuck out of the God awful Phogoth fight (I knew it was shit going in so no surprise there), and I'm just enjoying headshotting everything ad nauseum; and I'm not sure it will ever get old. I feel dirty. I have very little interest in the raid just due to organization concerns and it not really being that much of an accomplishment (if it was psychotically difficult I'd be interested); but you know just sitting here shooting 20,000 robots and other guys over and over sounds like just the thing. Oh right Mordor's actually good, fuck why am I wasting time with this shit. But there's like a 0.01% chance of something good dropping! Damnit...

There's nothing wrong with liking what you like. Destiny is a very flawed product, to be sure. But the core shooting is fantastic and if you find enough in the threadbare content to keep running the loop, you go right a head and do so. Don't feel bad about it and don't let anybody else make you feel bad for it. Myself? I haven't been able to put it down since day one.

It sounds like it's one of those things where almost everything about it is mediocre but there are one or two things you really like about it that you just keep coming back to.

I'd be mad if I paid sixty bucks for it but if I paid like ten I'd be OK, or if I borrowed my brother's copy for a week.

your in the loop of the grind, dude. And what you need to do is just admit what you really love about the game mechanics instead of focusing on the frustration of percentage of a good drop. That would either help you get off the game, or just embrace it more.

when people say the core shooting is fantastic i cannot relate, it's...ok? i mean, it's just what i would expect, i find it quite bland in both ability and weapon choice.

i didn't like borderlands very much but that was more compelling to me and both of these games suffer from the same repetition issues, destiny to a bigger extent.

@fredchuckdave: edited your thread title, please don't force readers to click on your topic just to figure out what it's about.

Thanks

Well, in Destiny's case it's more that the few things it does well are fantastic but almost all the design decisions are bad to a head scratching degree.

I can understand it, even though I don't care about the game anymore. Around its release, I was just as enthralled as you were, playing daily to grind out more rewards for my character. One day, I just asked myself why I was doing it and decided I didn't want to spend my free time there instead of with other games. It sounds like you just went the other way with it. My advice is not to feel guilty playing something if you're really enjoying--unless, of course, you're just doing it out of some addiction that keeps drawing you in. If other games were that important to you, you would find the time to play them.

I really liked it at first too.

Then I played it for more than a day.

I've figured out that I like Almond Joy more than I do Destiny.

You don't have to feel bad about liking something, man. I mean, I think Destiny is pretty mediocre and extremely problematic, but I've still played it extremely consistently since launch, and I still very much am having fun with it. Which is kind of all that matters, whether or not you're actually enjoying it or not, and it sounds like you are.

Don't know man, got both galahorn and red death today and got both hawkmoon and suros regime the other day. Just do the weekly, nighfall and raid every week if you want good stuff

No you don't.

I've kind of done everything of note...pretty close to the platinum trophy already too. Since neither of the newer DLC packs incoming will have anything of note.

My total feelings about Destiny are that its Bungie's weakest game since Oni. I don't say that in hyperbole...I think that's the cold hard truth. I'm still flabbergasted about barebones every single part of the game is, but I've been playing it because my friends are. I have a feeling I am going to go back to playing Battlefield 4 soon as Destiny's Crucible sucks for many reasons, including balance and variety. Hopefully they can get their act together sooner than later.

I think a pretty big part of the reason that I'm still playing Destiny (hell that I even clocked in 6 days played so far) is the lack of FPS games on the PS4. It's really the first interesting pvp FPS for me this gen. It also having fairly decent pve doesn't hurt either. If I'm still regularly playing this after I get advanced warfare it wouldn't even really be speaking to the quality of Destiny, it would be because cod was (hypothetically) disappointing to me. Hopefully Far Cry will be taking over my single player FPS time as well.

It's weird. I absolutely love Destiny, but it feels like I have absolutely nothing to work towards, which is what really makes it surprising that I'm still playing. Generally having progression and things to work towards are key in the longevity of shooters for me.

I'm enjoying the game despite having a problem with pretty much every aspect of it. The promise that I'm eventually going to fucking get something cool keeps me going. But then I'm reminded that the gear really doesn't make a huge difference at all and I get kind of bummed out.

*patiently awaits for FFXIV: Dreams of Ice to save me from this madness*

I like Destiny too. I've moved on, but I really liked my time with the game. I enjoyed making my way towards level 28 and enjoyed returning to various story missions and strikes, faffing about in patrols, doing bounties and playing control. I got 120 hours out of the game before I was done with it. I still jump on here and there if a friend wants to play.

It's not a bad game, it's good, it's just flawed and not for everyone.

If nothing else it sure did a great job of keeping me busy during September up until games started coming out again in October. :P

Hey just got an exotic from the terribly imbalanced PvP, huzzah (hit 20 like an hour ago). At least these 6 man matches are shorter and you can manipulate where everyone goes because of the dumbass radar.

@fredchuckdave: WAS IT SUROS REGIME, IF SO I HATE YOU.

@steadying: It's a scout rifle, I believe I've only used one for like 10 seconds thus far in the game (I'm still using a blue level 10 handcannon with an 11 round magazine because all my gear has handcannon stuff on it and it did like 20% less damage than a level 19 green or something, not significant if you headshot everything).

Mida Multi Tool.

It genuinely seems like virtually everything is bad about Destiny except the Aesthetics and the shooting dudes; somehow that's good enough to still make it compelling (for the time being). Totally not interested in farming shit if it doesn't involve pew pew.

I understand the problems of Destiny, and there's a bunch of them. But it's my GOTY.

No shame in liking what you like. From everything I've heard, it sounds like Destiny is deeply flawed but also deviously compulsive, and I can't fault anyone for getting sucked in by its wicked ways.

Xur is selling the SUROS Regime again this week. Pleased to finally get my hands on it tonight when I get home.

@lashe Same here man, same here. I can see it has some problems, but it's blown everything else out of the water, no contest. I bought and played Mordor for a few hours, but then went back to Destiny.

@anund: I don't have many friends who play this game, so anything that doesn't have matchmaking is kind of out of the question for me, unfortunately. :( (and the weekly stuff seems to be the only decent way to get coins).

Yeah that does make it a little rough... :( There are some guides on Reddit for soloing the nightfall and weekly heroic strikes though, but you probably need some patience, some skill and a lot of luck :)

Why feel bad? Sure it's not a perfect game but no one can tell you what you can like or dislike.

I really enjoy Destiny but I would never say it does not have problems.

I am hoping it will be this generations Assassin's Creed and it will fix a lot of issues after the first game.

@fredchuckdave: fear not dude, i like destiny too. Despite it being flawed and incomplete feeling, i still find myself playing it a few times a week. Play what you like. Who cares what people say. There are some games that people rave about to me but when i play them, i just don't get into them. Dark Souls is the most recent example for me. A dude i was speaking to at a friends house talked to me at length about how great dark souls was and how i needed to try it again. i did, still didn't care for it. I hear a lot of people talking about how they don't like the new borderlands and i'm having a great time with it. People are different and that's okay.

Yeah my Level 10 handcannon is wayyyy better than the Exotic Scout Rifle in PvP; such brilliant design on Bungie's part. Handcannons seem a little OP but mostly skill based; plenty of other things are on the "what dumbass designed this?" level of stupid in PvP.

Skinner Box set ups are really good at prompting human compulsion. It turns out people will tolerate a lot of BS if there is a tiny chance of reward. Lotteries and casinos are propped up by the same stuff. It helps that the gameplay of Destiny is solid, but it seems like people's obsessive need to play it despite finding the game to be boring and repetitive is largely driven by addiction. I've avoided Destiny because I'm afraid of it consuming huge chunks of my time without giving me a meaningful experience. But hey, if you like it then enjoy!

You are enjoying Destiny before finishing the story?

You're lying.

@fredchuckdave: Why would you feel bad about liking something? That's ridiculous. Love what you love and dislike what you dislike. No justification is nor should be needed.

How DARE you!

@fredchuckdave: It takes a special kind of game to make you feel bad about liking it. Don't throw that away man. Cherish it ;)

People are weird....don't feel guilty or try to say you are sorry for liking a game. Even those that seem controversial or unpopular.

On the other hand, if you hate something like "mustard" then you are a monster and should feel bad. :)

Don't feel bad! It's a fun game.

I just wish it had more content and less grinding. But the shooting is pretty much perfect and the powers are fun to use, so I enjoy it too.

Its fine to like the game, because they had a lot there that was right. They just didn't do enough to utilize what they got correct.

Hey man, I like it too!

I just finished getting my main to 30 and outfitting him with my favourite weapons in the game (Fatebringer, the raid hand cannon that does arc damage and Gjallarhorn, the best PvE weapon in the game IMO since it one-shots Minos and almost one-shots Prats on Hard Mode raid).

However, I'm putting the game down for a while since just doing so took like 200 hours. It'll probably drag me back in with the next expansion though.

It's a good game, with some great shooting. I just can't be bothered to replay the same stuff over and over so I'm pretty well done with it. Kinda like Borderlands games, I love playing them once to see the content.

@zevvion: I just found this one spot on Venus where I could sit there and shoot things forever without having to worry about random bullshit, grinding, or Dinklage; that plus randomly getting a good weapon = entertainment apparently. Story missions were a lot less annoying at a higher level but since I was playing solo there was still some amount of tension in it.

God knows I tried to like it, but.. mheee if you take out the slot machine mini game the loot system is in that game, you kinda end up with nothing.

Nothing wrong with people enjoying it thou, one of my best video game friends has do nothing but play destiny since release, I say: high five to him.

@fredchuckdave: Destiny is not fun before you reach the endgame. This is scientific fact.

Seriously though, you should do the Raid. It's the best time I've had in multiplayer/co-op all year easily. Maybe even ever. But then, we did figure it all out ourselves. Took like 8 hours or more.

@zevvion: Eh I was a Sunwell Raider so it's not a big deal for me; neat that people still are able to get that experience even if only for a fleeting time period. I'll get to 27 (if I don't get bored first) and maybe see if someone wants to carry me. Of course I want to platinum Shadow of Mordor twice so I should probably be doing that instead.

@steadying: Xur is currently selling the Suros Regime. I was actually kind of torn between it and the Voidfang chest piece, so I solo'd the weekly to kill some time and make up my mind and I got a legendary chest engram, decoded it and BAM Voidfang! First time I've ever had a legendary engram turn out to be an exotic. So I grabbed the Suros and I must say that it seems like the best AR I've used in pve so far. I have yet to try it in pvp though.

One of the big problems that I have right now is that there is no real reason to run either of my exotic heavy weapons because the secondaries and primaries are used WAY more. Also I really wish I could run the ice breaker while I also have the Suros Regime or The Last Word equiped. Honestly I get having to pick a piece of exotic armor because there is more strategy related to the perks associated with the armor, but I wish we could have all 3 weapon slots filled with exotics, I'd still use The Swarm over Super Good Advice, but I would like to use Truth a bit more.

I don't know I was really into it at first as well, but after getting to 28, dealing with the raid stuff, and thinking back about leveling another toon and realizing... wait I will literally just be doing the same stuff I have been doing the last two weeks over and over I stopped.

I was a hard core raider too @fredchuckdave but it is different when you are working with 9-24 other people consistently over weeks not 5 guys you may or may not loosely know over the course of a day or two. Cause lets be real... Destiny is not a Sunwell raid, you don't need 20+ wipes to learn a fight, and weeks to clear the whole raid. You can do it in a few hours even with a team of 26'ers as long as they are okay at the game. And once you do it, you are done. There isn't this big depth of content, a new raid to try, a zone you skipped to explore, or any real need to help another guy do runs. Anyone can easily solo their gear to 25-26 in a week if they farm their reps and tokens.

@overnow: I actually ended up getting enough coins and bought it myself. I love it so far!

And yeah, I really can't imagine they won't remove the 1 exotic cap at some point. It's just so silly and makes collecting exotic gear that much less rewarding.

@karkarov: I know that, it's obviously fleeting but hey maybe in the future there will be a game that meshes boring MMO combat with something actually interesting and makes it into a larger raiding experience. 10% of the people on PS4 have done it so that's like 500-600k people roughly (over the course of a month), that's like 80 times as many people that cleared Sunwell (over the course of a year). Nothing is like Sunwell though, no one's stupid enough to wipe out 80-85% of hardcore raiding guilds because the raid is that damn difficult anymore; which made it all the more special and weirdly masochistic.

Why would you feel bad? Despite the GiantBomb staffs distaste of the game (Brad aside) it's a damn good game, but grinding just isn't everyones thing.

@karkarov: Yeah I have 3 characters and all 3 are above level 20 but the only thing I use the hunter and titan for are trying to grab a couple more strange coins if I'm a bit low when Xur shows up. It's kind of a shame actually. I might try to give the titan a legit go and see if it winds up replacing my warlock as my go-to, but I have some doubts.