Anyone else tired of the constant snarkiness from the staff?

You're pulling the Ryan card to say that Jeff sucks? That's cold blooded. And not in a way that I can respect.

Two thumbs down to you.

No. Liking stuff is for losers. The more negative, the cooler you seem.

@wewantsthering: Eh, at some point it becomes subjective, but I haven't noticed Jeff seriously bang on something without at least giving big hints as to why he doesn't like it. The guy's picky.

I have to disagree with the idea that Jeff's negative. I don't know what types of games he likes, its pretty random, but most of time he, prefaces games saying that while he didn't like game x, it does thing y well or okay. If your a fan of games like game x or thing y they, maybe check it out. Most of his commentary seems to be fairly even handed, but I think a lot of people miss this, since most of the time he starts out describing a game by saying it was only okay or really wasn't his thing, he doesn't say the game is horrible.

@anund: I really don't know why you would think Alex is jaded, most of the time it seems like him and Patrick are excited about games, especially platforms and colorful playful games that don't take themselves too seriously.

I feel like Brad is excited about some, but not all games. Part of the problem with him is that it can be hard to tell, since he doesn't have the most out going or strongest personality (like say, Jeff, Vinny, or Ryan had). It isn't uncommon for him to say something positive or a joke and have it fall on death ears during content. Also, I feel like you have to take his opinion with a grain of salt, since he's been tainted by the MOBA bug of always wanting to play DOTA 2. Some of the deals he was trying to make on last years goty deliberations, where kind of scary, how much he was willing to give up to move DOTA 2 up the top ten list.

That was actually my whole point. Alex is not jaded, but he tries to act like he is when Jeff does. Bugs me.

@video_game_king said:
@spraynardtatum said:

@anund: ALEX IS FUCKING AWESOME YOU SUMBITCH

He's the one person I can trust to get snark right.

Funny, whenever he talks I want to stuff my ears with razorblades. Specially when he tries to be funny.

I hate when people dismiss those who disagree with a negative opinion of GB as "the GB hive mind" or some such bullshit. Stop with that shit.

Anyways, I think they haven't been very snarky this E3, or at least not more snarky than the show has deserved thus far.

@anund: Yep, Alex is the beaten lackey of Jeff with no will of his own. That's why he kept telling Jeff to shut the fuck up during the Yoshi preview.

What.

I can handle the snark from the GB crew, but I simply can not stand anyone from the GS teams at all. Their tweets this week have made me want to come out E3 and slap some sense into them. It's all about how you present your snark: a nose in the air or a sarcastic grin.

The guys all seem to have unique tastes, and that is fine. Patrick and Vinny seem rather open minded about delving into a variety of different games. Brad goes for the strategy, DOTA, and more twitchy kinda games. Drew tends to try the more obscure stuff. Alex will give most things a fair shake. Jeff does seem like he is probably the most cynical of the bunch, but to each his own. I imagine when you play hundreds of games a year over the course of a few decades it probably takes a lot to impress you.

Yeah, but i kinda of expect it to happen and it only bugs me when it comes to completely well made games being talk down on. I don't really follow the giant bomb coverage completely during e3, i just watch all the recaps and e3 podcasts. The live coverage i watch raw while jumping around different sites to get a general impression of the events. So at that point i don't mind hearing their opinions even if they are a bit jaded, because i just put them in the pile of other opinions that covers a wide range of emotions from excited to super jaded.

@spraynardtatum: That's not what I was saying, but okay...

Firstly, I think the format of the streams meant it was very slanted towards snark. However, I watched the the Nintendo press conference stream, and really found no problem with the tone of the stream. Maybe it's because I am not a Nintendo fan (though I love Zelda I have no affinity for the other stuff), but apart from Zelda and that ink game, I just saw a cavalcade of sequels some of which looked almost exactly the same as past games. I guess I am just at a similar place with games as Jeff, but I didn't pick up any overt negativity from Jeff. I don't need the Giant Bomb staff to be a second phalanx of cheerleaders at E3.

To be faiiir...

FUCK YOSHI AND TOAD THEY FUCKING SUCK

Yeah I'm pretty done with GB. See ya. It was fun while it was actually good.

Nail on the head right there. I thought 'I've played this game before/seen this game before and by played/seen this game before I mean I've played or seen this game every year of my life' on everything shown other than Zelda and that multiplayer team shooter which looked super interesting. It made me feel jaded in a way I didn't think I would, I had just come off a 4 hour long hike and felt great and fresh as well as optimistic and saw this press conference and the overlong explanations of everything and drawn out videos of old ideas and ended up super cynical.

And I agree there is plenty of coverage people can get that is little more than extended advertisements for the game. I appreciate knowing what the guys really think about what they are seeing without them feeling the need to filter it into some kind of PR speak garbage.

Yeah, the constant cynicism was getting to me last night, so I actually switched to the Twitch stream so I wouldn't have to listen to them anymore. Jeff really needs a foil, hopefully one of the new guys they eventually bring in will balance it out.

Didn't watch the Nintendo stream. That said, I am willing to admit the fact that I just don't find Alex entertaining at all probably makes me look for fault in what he does and says regardless.

snark is what I come for

@wewantsthering: I hope you find something better

@itwongo: It has been GameSpot lately honestly. They have good news and other shows that are polished without the weird IGN fakeness. GB has become videos of Jeff playing really old games and him complaining about most games. Waiting to hear from support on deleting my account here.

I come to hear their opinions, whatever they may be. Perhaps I'm interested in something they all couldn't care less about, and that's fine. People tend to either display (what some may call naive) optimism, or skepticism. Honestly I think most of them naturally gravitate towards the former, but when it comes down to it, the latter is more entertaining. A bunch of guys saying, "Looks cool!" for the duration of one of these conferences wouldn't be worth watching. And while Jeff may be the most snarky/negative of the bunch, at least hes funny about it. His whole bit with Yoshi was great. I'm personally looking forward to that game, and I loved his whole rant on it.

@anund: Yeah, I figured. You're certainly free to not enjoy the guy, 'cause opinions and shit. Had to raise my eyebrow at the weird narrative you were spinning there, though.

Probably should give the man a chance, if only 'cause he'll be Vinny's sole partner in crime soon. Heck, maybe that dynamic will help him shine more. We'll see.

I like when they react to things like humans. If they're excited for something, they'll act excited. If they're not, they won't. If you're looking for someone to scream "YEAH FUCK YEAH BRO VIDEO GAMES" about every single game revealed then there's plenty of places you can go for that. The constant whining is way more annoying than any "cynicism."

Also, some people's evoking of Ryan to try to reason why they're bored of a video game website is fucking gross and needs to stop.

Mammas don't let your babies grow up to be overly sensitive ninnies.

No, because I too find it hard to be enthused by pre-rendered CG trailers, "new" iterations on overdone genres, and "remastered" editions of games from a fucking year ago.

Ahh whatever. Shit was hilarious, especially Jeff going IN on Yoshi. I fucking love Yoshi, so to hear someone explain their distaste for the character so immensely, you can't help but to laugh. Best of the E3 coverage out there. I think it may be time for me to go premium.

Taking E3 seriously would be super boring, I mean half the damn show was just decapitations and throat slashing. How do you not poke fun at something so gratuitous, juvenile and fucking stupid?

Also, the second a member of the press gets really excited for something, the internet just calls them shills or cheerleaders, it's a no win scenario.

Yeah, needless to say I am not overjoyed by the whole GB East thing, hehe. But if I have to endure Alex to get my Vinny-fix, I guess I will have to give it a go. Maybe I'll even come to appreciate Alex.

You're asking them to change how they act to suit you? Get off the site if you don't like their style. They've always been like this, this is nothing new.

Why does everybody feel that the staff would be betraying themselves if they were more enthusiastic in general? You can go for self-improvement without selling out/becoming phony.

GB is weird in that even some relatively mild criticism gets extremely strong responses from a lot of people. often telling them if they dont like it, leave.

this guy comes in and is polite but still gets shut down like he is some complete asshole or something.

Funny, a topic complaining about how all the editors at Giantbomb do nothing but complain about video games has resulted in nothing but complaining? Color me surprised.

Sorry, but I've long since lost meaning of the word snark so I had to ruin complain for everyone.

@vikingdeath1: i wish there was a way to upvote a comment

I understand it could annoying but it's what people are turning up for. It's like watching top gear and being annoyed that Jeremy clarkson is on, what did you expect.

E3 is a collection of press releases it probably deserves to have the piss taken out of it.

What I'm trying to say is I respect your attempt to defy the circle jerk. And I will defend your right to defy the circle jerk with my life, but I will not...what was I saying oh yeah all the feels

@video_game_king: Is becoming more enthusiastic an improvement?

@relkin:

In the context of this thread, yes.

i actually love Jeff's disdain for most things and welcome it. Even if I,dont agree with him, I still find it funny. Like his hate for Red Dead and Last of Us. (examples of the crew not all collectively agreeing for the sake of agreeing.) Both games that i love deeply, and yet his unwavering hate for them makes me chuckle. He is dead set on his opinions and knows what he likes. I never got the impression that the crew all rallies behind one opinion. The podcasts, especialy the game of the year deliberations, wouldn't be so damn interesting if that were the case. The whole "Fuck Yoshi" thing was a perfect example. Jeff is a well known Yosji hater, and plays it up to piss off Patrick. No one agreed with him. Actually I thought the reaction of the crew during Nintendo's event was positively, surprisingly so from Jeff who seemed to have written them off at this point.

Their commentary only ever bothered me a couple of times, when i couldnt hear what was going on, but it wasnt because of what they were saying and I chose to watch that stream because i like them. They do have a seperate stream for those who want the pure experience. Perhaps next time you could use that one if it bothers you so much?

@video_game_king: Well I don't agree with that. I don't think its an improvement, its just different.

Jeff's been pretty funny throughout the conferences.

I think part of the reason why snark is such an integral part of this site is because these guys are old, and they've kind of seen it all several times over (especially Jeff, again). They, if anyone, has earned the right to be snarky by now. That might not appeal to everybody, and believe me, I understand if it doesn't, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, they are never going to become less snarky, so you might as well give up that dream.

And I disagree with you on the whole peer preassure around the table thing. I saw a healthy amount of differences of opinions during the conferences and I'm sure you did too.

Normally I would disagree with OP, but after watching the Nintendo one I have to agree some. It was a fun reveal, and I kept thinking "lighten the fuck up guys."

The snark is why I am here.

My opinion really comes down to two things.

A) they honestly don't seem that negative

B) when they are negative, it is usually fair, honest, and/or funny

Plus I really don't see where you're getting the whole peer pressure thing from, the guys disagree with each other constantly.

I like it but it never ends and that's the problem. Also, its oddly inconsistent about who they tolerate and will make fun of for certain things.

...Why? Just stop coming.

just a weeeeeeeeeee bit dramatic there, eh?

@anund: Assume you didn't see the Nintendo thing then? When Alex was squealing with delight at the Yoshi yarn game as Jeff was doing his old dismissal of Yoshi games because he didn't like Yoshi's Island. Sure, he has no voice of his own and just apes Jeff.

Edited because you later addressed this and just don't like Alex so may look for faults which I don't agree with but obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion. So fair enough.

@dexterkid: You're wrong. Nobody was forcing you to watch; you should just go to a different website and 'calm down', etc etc.

(just realized this should have been my initial and only response)