Grammar Nazis Welcome?

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#1  Edited By BothBarsOn

Just wondering: what's everyone's attitude to purely grammatical edits? I don't know enough, frankly, to write informative entries on games and characters but I know a comma splice when I see one and I'd like to get involved. 

I presume authors get a message when an entry of theirs is edited. How would you feel if someone fiddled with your pride and joy but did nothing more than change "it's" to "its" or vice versa? Would you be offended? Pleased? Utterly indifferent?
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#2  Edited By Pepsiman

No, no such message is sent out when an article is edited, primarily because the article belongs to no one, but rather the community. As a wiki moderator myself, I personally welcome grammatical and punctuation changes to entries by those who know their English really, really well. Seriously, just do your thing and don't worry about community backlash, because it most certainly shouldn't happen when you're doing a favor for whichever entries you touch. There really aren't enough of your kind here on the site.

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#3  Edited By Jayge_

Correct the grammar. Pleeeeeeease correct the grammar. You'll be helping more than you know.

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#4  Edited By BothBarsOn

OK, cool. And thanks for the quick (actually, frighteningly quick) replies.

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#5  Edited By BothBarsOn

Jayge, you misspelled "Please". There's only one "e" in there, not seven. See me later.

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#6  Edited By Jayge_
BothBarsOn said:
"Jayge, you misspelled "Please". There's only one "e" in there, not seven. See me later.
"
This was a satisfactory response.
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#7  Edited By Systech

You know what I hate? When people mean to say "we're" but type "were" instead. I suggest that you shouldn't be one of those guys.

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#8  Edited By MattyFTM  Moderator

Yep, we want to have a complete encyclopedia of video gaming knowledge here, and whoever heard of an encyclopedia with grammatical errors?

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#9  Edited By Lies

Yes. Grammar corrections are much appreciated. Tons of articles are riddled with poor punctuation or grammar right now. It makes the wiki pages much nicer to read if you correct them.

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#10  Edited By Absurd

I wouldn't be offended at all, I'd actually be happy.

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#11  Edited By citizenkane

I want the articles to be as best written as possible.  I welcome all grammatical corrections to pages.

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#12  Edited By RHCPfan24

Grammar corrections = cool. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Once you reach 1000 pts (which I don't know if you are or not), if you see a blurb or little article with blatant or small grammar errors, fix it once you see it. It is a benefit for all of us so you are doing the right thing.

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#13  Edited By BothBarsOn

Ha! At the moment I'm on one point. I think I inserted a hyphen somewhere about six months ago ...

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#14  Edited By singular

Error correctios are always good.

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#15  Edited By joey
SinGulaR said:
"Error correctioNs are always good."

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#16  Edited By Drebin_893

I got an entry denied for doing that once.

Therefore I have not attempted since.

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#17  Edited By Pepsiman
Drebin_893 said:
"I got an entry denied for doing that once.

Therefore I have not attempted since."
If you tried doing so around the site's launch, it was probably denied because we were unable to detect those sorts of edits very well at the time. Back in those days, we had to scan the entire article manually for changes if the editor didn't leave a note to us in the little box detailing what was done. What probably happened was that we didn't find what had been changed and that was the reason it was denied.

Now, however, we have tools which make figuring out what's been added and deleted a much easier matter, so by all means, feel free to try again if you ever feel like it.
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#18  Edited By farmer

I prefer the term 'Grammar Crusader'.

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#19  Edited By Johnny5

Yes, you dont have to be super correct but putting in a little effort is appreciated.

To be honest most of my edits involve rewording badly structured sentences, adding punctuation or fixing other mistakes.

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#20  Edited By oldschool
MattyFTM said:
"Yep, we want to have a complete encyclopaedia of video gaming knowledge here, and whoever heard of an encyclopaedia with grammatical errors?"
Fixed the spelling ;-)  Should we go ahead and fix the spelling as well?

ecyclopedia to encyclopaedia
color to colour
tire to tyre
center to centre
artifact to artefact
pajama to pyjama
mustache to moustache
program to programme
analog to analogue

I mean, we are using English, correct?
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#21  Edited By LordAndrew

We presumably use American English, since this is an American site. But if someone chooses to write an article in British English, Canadian English, or some other variant, I'm not going to go through the article and change it all.

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#22  Edited By oldschool
LordAndrew said:
"We presumably use American English, since this is an American site. But if someone chooses to write an article in British English, Canadian English, or some other variant, I'm not going to go through the article and change it all.
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Neither am I (it would take forever), yet I would go back and correct any changes to an article that I made.  It goes both ways.
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#23  Edited By Johnny5
oldschool said:
"MattyFTM said:
"Yep, we want to have a complete encyclopaedia of video gaming knowledge here, and whoever heard of an encyclopaedia with grammatical errors?"
Fixed the spelling ;-)  Should we go ahead and fix the spelling as well?

ecyclopedia to encyclopaedia
color to colour
tire to tyre
center to centre
artifact to artefact
pajama to pyjama
mustache to moustache
program to programme
analog to analogue

I mean, we are using English, correct?
"
Yeah most of those are ok for his American English...
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oldschool said:
"MattyFTM said:
"Yep, we want to have a complete encyclopaedia of video gaming knowledge here, and whoever heard of an encyclopaedia with grammatical errors?"
Fixed the spelling ;-)  Should we go ahead and fix the spelling as well?

ecyclopedia to encyclopaedia
color to colour
tire to tyre
center to centre
artifact to artefact
pajama to pyjama
mustache to moustache
program to programme
analog to analogue

I mean, we are using English, correct?
"

Yes, I just love redundant letters!
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#25  Edited By oldschool
Bellum said:

Yes, I just love redundant letters!
"

Somebody has to man!  They get lonely on holidays to America.

Oooh, I forgot:

energize to energise.
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#26  Edited By Kou_Leifoh

u kow wut i lke too call pople who corroct other pople in formum?




NERDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#27  Edited By Player1
Jayge said:
"Correct the grammar. Pleeeeeeease correct the grammar. You'll be helping more than you know."
agreed 
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#28  Edited By Gunner
Kou_Leifoh said:
"Do you know what I like to call someone who corrects other people on the forums?


A nerd!
"
FIxed.
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#29  Edited By TheGreatGuero

I'm glad people are actually okay with this. I did it once on the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 page and felt kind of bad about it. It seemed wrong to me to basically proof-read someone else's work and get points for it. However, if you're all fine with it, then so am I.

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TheGreatGuero said:
"I'm glad people are actually okay with this. I did it once on the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 page and felt kind of bad about it. It seemed wrong to me to basically proof-read someone else's work and get points for it. However, if you're all fine with it, then so am I.
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It's a service to the website and to the community; no reason to feel bad about it.
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#31  Edited By LiquidPrince

What's wrong with correcting grammar? If we are to have a site that looks professional and is taken seriously, then we must have wiki entries written correctly in all respects.

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#32  Edited By tmthomsen

I have been doing some grammatical edits myself, but it seems points aren't awarded at all for this. Is this true?

I will keep doing it though.

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#33  Edited By LordAndrew

You'll get at least one point.
Points are awarded based on how much you add to an article. If you make a lot of changes, but the size of the article decreases or remains the same, you won't get much points for it.

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#34  Edited By BiggerBomb

If I'm looking at a wiki page and the only error I can find is the lack of an apostrophe in "its" when it is supposed to be "it's," I won't bother. But if the grammar is massively screwed up, I think it's best to step in.

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#35  Edited By sarahsdad

By all means, make the corrections. Lord knows a lot of my early edits were small formatting and grammatical things.

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#36  Edited By Magnus_Bulla

I think people's general lack of spelling skills is rediculous.




Ok, I actually hate myself for typing that.

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#37  Edited By BothBarsOn

Please believe me when I say that I personally don't care about getting editing points. I don't have an awful lot of spare time these days so there's absolutely no chance of me ever reaching the mystical 1000 either way.

That said, I do find it unfair that points are awarded purely for adding word count. It's something of a disincentive to editors. Person X spends ten minutes writing 500 words of absolute nonsense and is handsomely rewarded. Person Y spends an hour turning it into 350 words of pure poetry and gets a kick in the sack for his efforts.

I'm not sure what the solution is because you can't award points purely on, say, percentage of article changed either; who knows, maybe the changes are crap too. You really need someone making a qualitative judgement on edits. And there's an obvious man-power problem there.

Anyone have any ideas?


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#38  Edited By PremierOctopus
BothBarsOn said:
"Ha! At the moment I'm on one point. I think I inserted a hyphen somewhere about six months ago ..."
Yeah, see that fire extinguisher page? I totally wrote that.
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#39  Edited By c1337us
joey said:
SinGulaR said:
"Error correctioNs are always good."
Oh no. I totally remember using correctios in scrabble once.
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#40  Edited By Kou_Leifoh

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#41  Edited By BothBarsOn

Sweet pic, Kou_Leifoh!

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#43  Edited By Giantkitty
BothBarsOn said:
"Jayge, you misspelled "Please". There's only one "e" in there, not seven. See me later."
When quotation marks are at the end of a sentence, the period goes "inside." That's the rule in the United States, where Giant Bomb is located. See me later.