#1 Posted by Doomed (207 posts) -

Should completed translations be listed on wiki pages for their associated games? What about in-progress ones (projects that are actively being worked on)?

The Mother 3 page mentions its fan-translation.

#2 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

Yea, I was wondering if I could create a fan translation page for the wiki. On the one hand, it's a pretty damn important concept to many games, such as Mother 3 and Final Fantasy V. On the other hand, I can see how it could encourage piracy, especially with older games.

#3 Posted by StarFoxA (5163 posts) -

Typically I mention it. It's relevant to the game in question, so why not include it?

#4 Posted by MikkaQ (10344 posts) -

Maybe a page on fan translations in general, speaking about some specific examples while keeping that content out of the page of the main game would be best.

It just doesn't seem relevant to a given game as to whether it's been fan-translated or not because it's all unofficial. It's a weird path to go down because do we then start cataloging other kinds of game mods? Total conversions? Popular texture packs? Like where does that end?

#5 Posted by Demoskinos (15143 posts) -
@MikkaQ

Maybe a page on fan translations in general, speaking about some specific examples while keeping that content out of the page of the main game would be best.

It just doesn't seem relevant to a given game as to whether it's been fan-translated or not because it's all unofficial. It's a weird path to go down because do we then start cataloging other kinds of game mods? Total conversions? Popular texture packs? Like where does that end?

I concur. Having a concept page with attached games seems like a better idea.
#6 Posted by huntad (1958 posts) -

@MikkaQ: I vote for this as well. It can be mentioned on that page, or people can just find out it has one and google it.

#7 Posted by StarFoxA (5163 posts) -

@MikkaQ said:

Maybe a page on fan translations in general, speaking about some specific examples while keeping that content out of the page of the main game would be best.

It just doesn't seem relevant to a given game as to whether it's been fan-translated or not because it's all unofficial. It's a weird path to go down because do we then start cataloging other kinds of game mods? Total conversions? Popular texture packs? Like where does that end?

I guess the difference is that since this site is English focused, fan translations are relevant to the English reading audience. Wikipedia definitely mentions fan translations (just as an example). It's possible to do that without mentioning texture packs, ROM hacks, conversions, etc.

#8 Posted by MikkaQ (10344 posts) -

@StarFoxA said:

@MikkaQ said:

Maybe a page on fan translations in general, speaking about some specific examples while keeping that content out of the page of the main game would be best.

It just doesn't seem relevant to a given game as to whether it's been fan-translated or not because it's all unofficial. It's a weird path to go down because do we then start cataloging other kinds of game mods? Total conversions? Popular texture packs? Like where does that end?

I guess the difference is that since this site is English focused, fan translations are relevant to the English reading audience. Wikipedia definitely mentions fan translations (just as an example). It's possible to do that without mentioning texture packs, ROM hacks, conversions, etc.

But for someone looking to get info on the actual game, to have fan-created material on there just doesn't feel right. Like I kinda get the Mother 3 thing since it's the most prolific fan-translation I can think of, which even had a bound strategy guide, at the end of the day, the game was never released here and it's not in English. It's a Japanese game. The fan translation is just a supplement for people who can't speak Japanese. It has nothing to do with the original game as it is. I feel like a separate concept page for fan-translations, like the one we have for mods is a better place to put that information.

I just feel like having that within pages opens things up to like talking about Kaizo Mario on the Super Mario World page. It just feels weird to have non-commercial mods on a wiki that goes as far as listing individual SKUs and releases for a given game.

But whatever, I'm not exactly mad passionate for the wiki anyway, just my two cents.

#9 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@MikkaQ:

For many games, though, it's relevant as hell. With Tear Ring Saga, it's hard to talk about its reception outside Japan without mentioning that the game got massively more popular when a partial fan translation came along. Hell, Final Fantasy V could probably have an entire section dedicated to its fan translation, given how important it is to the game's history.

#10 Posted by Hunter5024 (5962 posts) -

I like knowing about fan translations, so I say we should, but I have 0 wiki points so feel free to ignore me.

#11 Posted by sodacat (217 posts) -

@MikkaQ said:

It just doesn't seem relevant to a given game as to whether it's been fan-translated or not because it's all unofficial. It's a weird path to go down because do we then start cataloging other kinds of game mods? Total conversions? Popular texture packs? Like where does that end?

Wiki pages already have reception subsections, and critical and commercial reception don't have anything to do with the game either.