#1 Posted by Kaiserreich (742 posts) -

How is it normally handled when a game is cancelled? The game East Vs. West was unfortunately cancelled after a long and troubled development history. Should the page be marked for deletion or should I edit it? Sorry if this is a silly question, I'm new to wiki stuff.

#2 Edited by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

If there was actually a game at some point (and it wasn't just an idea somebody had), then include it. You verify through screenshots, videos, hands-on previews, demos, etc.

By the way, anybody mind if I create a page for Fallout: Van Buren? From what I can tell from the Fallout wiki, it actually existed at one point.

#3 Edited by BeachThunder (12438 posts) -

Cancelled games should stay in the wiki - there's even a concept page (with a terrible default image) for them.

#4 Posted by MattyFTM (14433 posts) -

By the way, anybody mind if I create a page for Fallout: Van Buren? From what I can tell from the Fallout wiki, it actually existed at one point.

We already have a page for Van Buren. It was most definitely a game that existed. There's a playable tech demo of it floating around on the internet somewhere.

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#5 Posted by Mento (2810 posts) -

The original rule was that we'd only include pages for canceled games if their announced cancellation occurred after the site was founded. We've been a little relaxed with it since then, as far as I can tell.

While they're technically not or ever will be games, there's always lots of people searching the wiki for games they once heard about at E3/PAX or from some preview feature and want to track them down to see if they were ever released. It's useful to have those pages there so people can learn that those games were axed at some point.

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#6 Edited by FinalDasa (2067 posts) -

@mento: I discovered this having kicked around a movie wiki for awhile. You'd be surprised how many "cancelled" projects will suddenly come back with a different name but mostly the same info. So keep them around on the wiki could actually be easier, in the long run, for the moderators and wiki editors.

And it's cool to see what could have been.

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#7 Posted by SaturdayNightSpecials (2446 posts) -

Let me take the opportunity to ask this: Does anyone know if this rule still applies to canceled games?

  • Canceled games should have no associated links (i.e. concepts, locations, objects, etc.) nor should they be attached to their respective franchise pages. Thus, canceled games' pages should exist on an island unto themselves for historical purposes only.

It appears on the concept page, and I assume @marino wrote it, but I almost never see canceled games given this treatment.

#8 Edited by Jeff (3671 posts) -

@saturdaynightspecials: Yes, that rule still applies (with the possible exception of the "canceled games" concept page, of course).

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#9 Posted by Marino (4766 posts) -

Let me take the opportunity to ask this: Does anyone know if this rule still applies to canceled games?

  • Canceled games should have no associated links (i.e. concepts, locations, objects, etc.) nor should they be attached to their respective franchise pages. Thus, canceled games' pages should exist on an island unto themselves for historical purposes only.

It appears on the concept page, and I assume @marino wrote it, but I almost never see canceled games given this treatment.

@mento said:

While they're technically not or ever will be games, there's always lots of people searching the wiki for games they once heard about at E3/PAX or from some preview feature and want to track them down to see if they were ever released. It's useful to have those pages there so people can learn that those games were axed at some point.

As Jeff stated, the rule should still apply. I would throw one caveat in there though that having them attached to E3/PAX pages can be useful as Mento has pointed out.

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#10 Posted by ch3burashka (5260 posts) -

I dunno... what does God want with a spaceship?

#11 Edited by noizy (722 posts) -

@beachthunder said:

Cancelled games should stay in the wiki - there's even a concept page (with a terrible default image) for them.

I looked up the concept page, and noticed the First Appearance being Tattoo Assassins. I'm now laughing my ass off now about Jeff's comment from him that he'd rather be playing Tattoo Assassins than the original Killer Instinct. Thanks. :)

#12 Posted by SaturdayNightSpecials (2446 posts) -

@marino @jeff Thanks, good to know.

Another question while I'm at it: should people be credited for canceled games, if we know their job title?

#13 Posted by BlackLagoon (1460 posts) -

May I suggest that when someone clears the release date field and other relevant information from a canceled title, that they add the information back to the page as text? Because having a bunch of bare bones canceled titles floating around can get confusing pretty fast, especially for long lived platforms as the PC.

#14 Posted by sodacat (217 posts) -

Should the concept for an engine or middleware be attached to a cancelled game if it was known to be used during development?

#15 Posted by Animasta (14728 posts) -

also, OP, I edited the Magna Mundi page when it got cancelled.

I should probably add the silly World Stage stuff and how Ubik owns the Clausewitz Engine