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The one positive on this news is very selfish on my part, as Fallout 4 is the only game (besides a new ES title, of course) that would make drop major coin on a new console sooner rather than later. I've got a modded out version of New Vegas to play should I need to scratch that Fallout itch anytime soon.
My guess is that the best we are going to get is a very short trailer at e3 with a release date of holiday 2015 announced later in the year, maybe at VGAs.
When you think that this is hopefully a game developed on a new (please) or at least much upgraded engine with new consoles and high end PC in mind, I don't think it is that surprising that it is going to take 4+ years to create, if we take early 2012 as the start date.
I just hope it blows me away. A fallout game that actually looks and plays well in addition to the amazing world, story and freedom would be worth waiting for.
I love all the vitriol in here about Skyrim, which was rated only the, what, 3rd best game of the last generation by this site? (the community, not the staff)
I'm kind of embarrassed how much it upsets me that Obsidian almost certainly won't have a part in the development of this game. They created a far more interesting world and story, and the systems of Reputation were orders of magnitude better than Karma ever was. Here's to hoping Bethesda shows at least some amount of respect for the lore this time around.
@veektarius: Indeed. Retroactive Skyrim backlash is so boring.
I'm kind of embarrassed how much it upsets me that Obsidian almost certainly won't have a part in the development of this game. They created a far more interesting world and story, and the systems of Reputation were orders of magnitude better than Karma ever was. Here's to hoping Bethesda shows at least some amount of respect for the lore this time around.
But then most people on this very site thought Fallout 3 was better. YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
I'm kind of embarrassed how much it upsets me that Obsidian almost certainly won't have a part in the development of this game. They created a far more interesting world and story, and the systems of Reputation were orders of magnitude better than Karma ever was. Here's to hoping Bethesda shows at least some amount of respect for the lore this time around.
But then most people on this very site thought Fallout 3 was better. YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
Probably because most people who played Fallout 3 did not play Fallout: New Vegas, or didn't give New Vegas much of a chance because they'd already played a lot of 3. I think if most people went back to it now having forgotten most of their experiences with the Fallout games, they'd realise New Vegas is a far, far better game.
I'm kind of embarrassed how much it upsets me that Obsidian almost certainly won't have a part in the development of this game. They created a far more interesting world and story, and the systems of Reputation were orders of magnitude better than Karma ever was. Here's to hoping Bethesda shows at least some amount of respect for the lore this time around.
But then most people on this very site thought Fallout 3 was better. YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
Probably because most people who played Fallout 3 did not play Fallout: New Vegas, or didn't give New Vegas much of a chance because they'd already played a lot of 3. I think if most people went back to it now having forgotten most of their experiences with the Fallout games, they'd realise New Vegas is a far, far better game.
New Vegas has a better story, and better writing, but I think Fallout 3 had a better world. I say this because I think wrecked DC is bigger and more interesting than New Vegas the "city," because New Vegas is such a small (size wise) part of New Vegas (the game) that I think they named it improperly.
Also, it's way easier to get comically overpowered in Fallout 3, so there's another reason to like it more.
I'm kind of embarrassed how much it upsets me that Obsidian almost certainly won't have a part in the development of this game. They created a far more interesting world and story, and the systems of Reputation were orders of magnitude better than Karma ever was. Here's to hoping Bethesda shows at least some amount of respect for the lore this time around.
But then most people on this very site thought Fallout 3 was better. YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
Probably because most people who played Fallout 3 did not play Fallout: New Vegas, or didn't give New Vegas much of a chance because they'd already played a lot of 3. I think if most people went back to it now having forgotten most of their experiences with the Fallout games, they'd realise New Vegas is a far, far better game.
New Vegas has a better story, and better writing, but I think Fallout 3 had a better world. I say this because I think wrecked DC is bigger and more interesting than New Vegas the "city," because New Vegas is such a small (size wise) part of New Vegas (the game) that I think they named it improperly.
Also, it's way easier to get comically overpowered in Fallout 3, so there's another reason to like it more.
Well thematically New Vegas is all about fresh starts, both for individual characters and society as a whole (and the player of course, what with being shot in the head at the beginning of the game). I think New Vegas represents that idea really well, much moreso anyway than calling it "Fallout: Mojave", "Fallout: Hoover Dam" or something equally less catchy.
The thing is that New Vegas has so many more quests, and i'm pretty sure there are actually more locations. Fallout 3 might've been bigger, but there was so much tedious nothingness in that map, and so much of it was copy-and-based design (remember those Metros that all had almost exactly the same layout?) I like Fallout 3 a lot, but i'll always stand by New Vegas as being better in basically every way.
@lackingsaint: I specifically mean the DC the city part of Fallout 3 vs. New Vegas the city part of New Vegas. I don't know how the entire game areas of the two compare, I just meant to point out that New Vegas as a city is a pretty small portion of the entirety of that game. DC is also not all of the game in Fallout 3, but it's a larger percentage of it than New Vegas.
It's one thing to acknowledge that these things take hell of large amounts of time, but they should at least be honest about what they're making. We all know it's Fallout, and they should just admit it and give a relative time scale. If the game's not going to be out for three years, they should tell us that.
Actually no. They shouldn't tell us shit, because they are not obligated to do anything. They should reveal the game when they think its right, and release it when they think it's right. If you like what they are pitching, then you can pay for it when you are able to. That's it.
I don't understand where this mindset that company's or artists owe the people who buy their products something. We don't deserve to know anything. Maybe it's something that has come from kickstarter, or maybe it's just a younger generation getting it's voice. Either way its fucking stupid.
@mooseymcman: The DC part of fallout 3 was miles of subway tunnels and ruined streets full of super mutants. The museum and institutions were cool but they also were nothing but dungeons full of super mutants. By comparisons Vegas was a real living breathing place with secret societies, mobsters, M. house and Yes Man, the poor district with a gang full of elvis impersonators and great interplay between all these different factions.
Aside from that, fallout NV had just a way more thought out and better realized world than Fallout 3:
@pyrodactyl: Part of why I like Fallout 3's DC more than New Vegas is that DC has real locations in it. All the casinos in New Vegas are fictional. There's just something cool about going to real world buildings and seeing what's happened to them in this world that just can't be replicated in fictional casinos.
I will say that The Kings was better than just about everything in Fallout 3 though. Such a brilliant, amazing idea. I wish I had thought of it.
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