Hey man, when everything else fails, just plug your ears and keep yelling the thing you think is right ;)@TheDudeOfGaming said:
@Carlos1408: Here's what I'm gonna say, pure and simple...climbing into boxes, not art.Who could possibly argue against logic like this? I know I'm convinced.
A Guy, A Crate and Seven Days of Lord of the Rings Online
I kinda want to know how those "custom containers for waste" work.
I'm glad that there are people out there who are prepared to put themselves through extremes just to see what happens.
I think people's problems are that he's gaming for a moth and almost belittling the hobby. If he was just sitting in a box and being driven from A to B for a week, most of us would have never heard about it. But because he's playing video games he get's wider exposure which opens him up to the full force of internet.
If you don't like what he's doing or can't see how it's "art" then you don't have to be a dick about it. He's not hurting anybody with his actions, just experimenting.
@HatKing said:
@TooWalrus said:Was that really a strong enough connection to play WoW? I'm no networking wiz, so I might just be out of touch here.@HatKing said:
Wait........ how does he plan on playing Lord of the Rings *ONLINE* while in a tiny box aboard a moving vehicle?Ya know, I'm sure he's thought about it. I once played WoW on the road using a friends 3G connection and WiFi hotspot from his phone.
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want to do any 25 person content on it, but you're able to do the basic shit like daily quests, auction house, leveling etc.
I get his stuff but this one is a little iffy, idk maybe pick another social interaction than LOTRO but he said he had a thing for LOTRO, so.. can't argue with that, the worst part for me would be taking a crap in that thing, oh and not moving, also I wonder how he's getting his internet and power 0.o. Remember that guy that stood in a box for a month with no human interaction at all just someone sending shit through a tiny door, he would talk to a camera without knowing if anybody was listening, that was fucked up :D.
An artist I knew did a piece where he hanged himself in front of about 300 people, he had a dead man's trigger to drop the rope for when he was about to die, though. He was pretty crazy.
Playing LOTRO is probably on par with that, actually.
Art is whatever you want it to be. I think dancing is stupid, and I don't think It has any place being called art, but it is. Some people feel differently about it than I do. So while you might think this has no place in being called art, it may still resonate with somebody else. It might even only resonate with him and nobody else. Even then, I think it still has its place. Hell, to some people, science is art. Some people even think math is art. I'm not going to argue with them. Maybe just the fact that something makes them happy is good enough for them to feel it's art. And I agree.
Nice to see an article about art on a video game site that isn't about "game art." From an artist who also enjoys games, this is pretty cool. I thought the box tower performance was pretty cool, but this road trip one I'm not so sure about. The artist's comments on the differences between art and therapy are pretty interesting, especially considering there's and entire field of practice called "art therapy."
Weird...at first I didn't understand the box tower thing but the more I watched it, the more I could see how terrified he was and I guess my stomach just dropped at the realization he is probably reliving his trauma with that piece. Then walking off to just get away from everybody once he was out.
Well the Supreme Court ruled video games are a form of expression and free speech, like literature and visual art. So I think this guy is just driving that point home, or to Oregon, depending which one is closer.
Being cramped in a spot is annoying. Being cramped in a spot with LOTRO??? Well, to each his own. Best of luck to the man.
Interesting idea the observation of human coping mechanisms.
Does "Bald Knob" exist?
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The word art only gets in the way it seems. There are actions or objects that have no rational purpose but evoke a reaction (emotional, intellectual) in people, and people seem to have the urge to create and/or experience these actions or objects. Predefined rules and expectations of certain media are bullshit. This is a very simple principle. You don't have to like any particular thing or even respect it's intentions, but the whole "is something art" discussion is utterly pointless, has always been and even more so in the post-modern age.
Seriously, how easy is that concept?
@Gregomasta said:
@Mikemcn said:hear hear.This isn't art, theres people growing up thinking that shit like this is art, it isnt.
Art is perception. Truth is beauty and beauty, truth. That you can't see the beauty or truth in what he's doing doesn't negate either, it just makes you blind to the world around you.
If I was on a trip to Mars, and forced into a cube with nothing but LOTRO, I would be a broken man in less than a week.
I don't see how this is art at all.have you ever been to an art gallery? half the shit you see there may look like actual shit, but i assure you, it's all art.
Its still a load of fucking shite though.@Gregomasta said:
@Mikemcn said:hear hear.This isn't art, theres people growing up thinking that shit like this is art, it isnt.
Art is perception. Truth is beauty and beauty, truth. That you can't see the beauty or truth in what he's doing doesn't negate either, it just makes you blind to the world around you.
Already had someone do similar in Norway about 10 years ago, a project loosely translated to Decay, dealing with the topic of how much a relatively healthy human body would 'waste' when confined to a small, dark space underground without social interactions, bathroom, other common luxuries, for a week.
@MysteriousBob said:
@SeriouslyNow said:Its still a load of fucking shite though.@Gregomasta said:
@Mikemcn said:hear hear.This isn't art, theres people growing up thinking that shit like this is art, it isnt.
Art is perception. Truth is beauty and beauty, truth. That you can't see the beauty or truth in what he's doing doesn't negate either, it just makes you blind to the world around you.
So people aren't traumatised and staying inside playing MMOs etc? I can assure you they are. He is clearly commentating on the world he sees and experiences. It's art. Whether it's good or bad is merely a matter of taste.
Art is quite an individual thing, some people call dance art, some people don't. In the end art is whatever you want it to be. It's not like it plays a significant role in our lives anyway. Even though some people vastly believe that.This isn't art, theres people growing up thinking that shit like this is art, it isnt.
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@Th3_James said:I like how you make it sound like living in a box for a week is the best thing ever. "Can't wait to get back in my box, dude!"I wish I had the time and money to do something fucking ridiculous like this. Sadly I have a full time job, and not enough money to just say fuck everything and live in a box for a week.
lol, I got a full time job, wife and two kids... I have to cut down on my sleep to get time to play the huge amount of games coming out nowadays. Getting 7 days even if it's in a small box playing an MMO does sound kind of awesome. :)
@Hobbies said:
I'd find this interesting if he was doing it as just some crazy stunt out of boredom or curiosity. The fact that he's so pretentious about this "art" is what is turning me off about the whole thing.
Indeed, I think artists know that if they take two toilet papers and glue them together and hang them in a string from the celling at an art museum and pretend to be all deep about it people will pay them. In the end it's a way of getting food on the table I guess.
It would felt better if he was just a dude locking him self in a box playing a MMO for a week with out being all arty-farty about it.
Great article Patrick. It's nice to see stuff like this on the site alongside all the regular industry news, gives the place more of a personality.
As for Jordan, I wish him the best of luck in his endeavour. I can't imagine how it must feel to be afflicted with PTSD, and to see this guy actively facing his fear to raise awareness of his condition is great. It'd be cool to see a follow-up to this after the ordeal, like an interview, to see how the experience went and what he felt he achieved.
On a much more childish note, 'Bald Knob' is officially my new favourite place name ever.
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