A Guy, A Crate and Seven Days of Lord of the Rings Online

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#101  Edited By TheDudeOfGaming
@Brad said:

@TheDudeOfGaming said:

@Carlos1408: Here's what I'm gonna say, pure and simple...climbing into boxes, not art.

Who could possibly argue against logic like this? I know I'm convinced.

Hey man, when everything else fails, just plug your ears and keep yelling the thing you think is right ;)
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#102  Edited By ArbitraryWater

Self-inflicted trauma also involving MMOs! It's "Art"!

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#103  Edited By MikkaQ

Oh performance art... letting the lazy call themselves artists since whenever they decided to make the term up.

Also LORTO? Really? I would die a lonely death in that box, and not for lack of food, air or water.

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#104  Edited By TyrellOCP

I kinda want to know how those "custom containers for waste" work.  
I'm glad that there are people out there who are prepared to put themselves through extremes just to see what happens. 
I think people's problems are that he's gaming for a moth and almost belittling the hobby. If he was just sitting in a box and being driven from A to B for a week, most of us would have never heard about it. But because he's playing video games he get's wider exposure which opens him up to the full force of internet. 
If you don't like what he's doing or can't see how it's "art" then you don't have to be a dick about it. He's not hurting anybody with his actions, just experimenting.

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#105  Edited By toowalrus

@HatKing said:

@TooWalrus said:

@HatKing said:

Wait........ how does he plan on playing Lord of the Rings *ONLINE* while in a tiny box aboard a moving vehicle?

Ya know, I'm sure he's thought about it. I once played WoW on the road using a friends 3G connection and WiFi hotspot from his phone.

Was that really a strong enough connection to play WoW? I'm no networking wiz, so I might just be out of touch here.

Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want to do any 25 person content on it, but you're able to do the basic shit like daily quests, auction house, leveling etc.

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#106  Edited By Pop

I get his stuff but this one is a little iffy, idk maybe pick another social interaction than LOTRO but he said he had a thing for LOTRO, so.. can't argue with that, the worst part for me would be taking a crap in that thing, oh and not moving, also I wonder how he's getting his internet and power 0.o. Remember that guy that stood in a box for a month with no human interaction at all just someone sending shit through a tiny door, he would talk to a camera without knowing if anybody was listening, that was fucked up :D.

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#107  Edited By fattony12000
@patrickklepek: EVERYONE'S A CRITIC, EH, PATRICK? 
   
An artist I knew did a piece where he hanged himself in front of about 300 people, he had a dead man's trigger to drop the rope for when he was about  to die, though. He was pretty crazy. 
 
Playing LOTRO is probably on par with that, actually.
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Art is whatever you want it to be. I think dancing is stupid, and I don't think It has any place being called art, but it is. Some people feel differently about it than I do. So while you might think this has no place in being called art, it may still resonate with somebody else. It might even only resonate with him and nobody else. Even then, I think it still has its place. Hell, to some people, science is art. Some people even think math is art. I'm not going to argue with them. Maybe just the fact that something makes them happy is good enough for them to feel it's art. And I agree.
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#109  Edited By eagles_band

These artsy types are so weird....why would you clap for somebody for being inside a box. 

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#110  Edited By Gold_Skulltulla

Nice to see an article about art on a video game site that isn't about "game art." From an artist who also enjoys games, this is pretty cool. I thought the box tower performance was pretty cool, but this road trip one I'm not so sure about. The artist's comments on the differences between art and therapy are pretty interesting, especially considering there's and entire field of practice called "art therapy."

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#111  Edited By Ronald

Good luck to Long. I hope he has a shower and a nice restaurant ready at the end of the journey.

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#112  Edited By Allison

Honestly my biggest concern is stuff like his blood clotting and basically major health issues that are involved with not moving for prolonged amounts of time.

That and I guess playing computer games for a week straight.

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#113  Edited By ashriels

Watching the video I couldn't help but think, "so basically, this is a discovery zone for existentialists."
 
Hehehe, but really I enjoy this guy's work.  One of these days I'd like to be able to see a performance in person.

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#114  Edited By bellmont42

Weird...at first I didn't understand the box tower thing but the more I watched it, the more I could see how terrified he was and I guess my stomach just dropped at the realization he is probably reliving his trauma with that piece. Then walking off to just get away from everybody once he was out.

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#115  Edited By Mumrik

"Art" it is such a convenient label to use when you're doing stuff nobody thinks is impressive.

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#116  Edited By gogobomb

um. quick question. if he's traveling on the road how does he have internet?

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#117  Edited By Levio

This is good practice for when VR catches on and we all live in virtual worlds, and for some reason there's only 50 square feet of land per person.

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#118  Edited By paulm

some people think anything and everything can be art

some people think art is only what they deem to be art

Both are perfectly expectable ways of seeing the world

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#119  Edited By art_monkey79

Well the Supreme Court ruled video games are a form of expression and free speech, like literature and visual art. So I think this guy is just driving that point home, or to Oregon, depending which one is closer. 

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#120  Edited By Kontrapunkt

Being cramped in a spot is annoying. Being cramped in a spot with LOTRO??? Well, to each his own. Best of luck to the man. 
 
Interesting idea the observation of human coping mechanisms. 
 
Does "Bald Knob" exist? 
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#121  Edited By BBQBram

The word art only gets in the way it seems. There are actions or objects that have no rational purpose but evoke a reaction (emotional, intellectual) in people, and people seem to have the urge to create and/or experience these actions or objects. Predefined rules and expectations of certain media are bullshit. This is a very simple principle. You don't have to like any particular thing or even respect it's intentions, but the whole "is something art" discussion is utterly pointless, has always been and even more so in the post-modern age.

Seriously, how easy is that concept?

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#122  Edited By SeriouslyNow

@Gregomasta said:

@Mikemcn said:

This isn't art, theres people growing up thinking that shit like this is art, it isnt.

hear hear.

Art is perception. Truth is beauty and beauty, truth. That you can't see the beauty or truth in what he's doing doesn't negate either, it just makes you blind to the world around you.

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#123  Edited By Subjugation

Anyone else having trouble watching the second video in Chrome?

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#124  Edited By Chris2KLee

That box thing in the first video looks awesome, something like that was my dream when I was a kid.

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#125  Edited By xpgamer7

Is it jus me or does his fasination with trauma feel like some form of masochism?

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#126  Edited By Krystal_Sackful

If I was on a trip to Mars, and forced into a cube with nothing but LOTRO, I would be a broken man in less than a week.

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#127  Edited By jayjonesjunior
@natetodamax said:
I don't see how this is art at all.
have you ever been to an art gallery? half the shit you see there may look like actual shit, but i assure you, it's all art.
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#128  Edited By MysteriousBob
@SeriouslyNow said:

@Gregomasta said:

@Mikemcn said:

This isn't art, theres people growing up thinking that shit like this is art, it isnt.

hear hear.

Art is perception. Truth is beauty and beauty, truth. That you can't see the beauty or truth in what he's doing doesn't negate either, it just makes you blind to the world around you.

Its still a load of fucking shite though.
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#129  Edited By geirr

Already had someone do similar in Norway about 10 years ago, a project loosely translated to Decay, dealing with the topic of how much a relatively healthy human body would 'waste' when confined to a small, dark space underground without social interactions, bathroom, other common luxuries, for a week.

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#130  Edited By SeriouslyNow

@MysteriousBob said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@Gregomasta said:

@Mikemcn said:

This isn't art, theres people growing up thinking that shit like this is art, it isnt.

hear hear.

Art is perception. Truth is beauty and beauty, truth. That you can't see the beauty or truth in what he's doing doesn't negate either, it just makes you blind to the world around you.

Its still a load of fucking shite though.

So people aren't traumatised and staying inside playing MMOs etc? I can assure you they are. He is clearly commentating on the world he sees and experiences. It's art. Whether it's good or bad is merely a matter of taste.

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#131  Edited By Portis

Stupid.

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#132  Edited By Osiris
@Mikemcn said:

This isn't art, theres people growing up thinking that shit like this is art, it isnt.

Art is quite an individual thing, some people call dance art, some people don't. In the end art is whatever you want it to be. It's not like it plays a significant role in our lives anyway. Even though some people vastly believe that.
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#133  Edited By Nefhril

@): @mnzy said:

@Th3_James said:

I wish I had the time and money to do something fucking ridiculous like this. Sadly I have a full time job, and not enough money to just say fuck everything and live in a box for a week.

I like how you make it sound like living in a box for a week is the best thing ever. "Can't wait to get back in my box, dude!"

lol, I got a full time job, wife and two kids... I have to cut down on my sleep to get time to play the huge amount of games coming out nowadays. Getting 7 days even if it's in a small box playing an MMO does sound kind of awesome. :)

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#134  Edited By Bloodgraiv3

I have no words. 
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#135  Edited By Slaker117

The thing you have to remember about art is that it's all bullshit. You just happen to like some of it.

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#136  Edited By Nefhril

@Hobbies said:

I'd find this interesting if he was doing it as just some crazy stunt out of boredom or curiosity. The fact that he's so pretentious about this "art" is what is turning me off about the whole thing.

Indeed, I think artists know that if they take two toilet papers and glue them together and hang them in a string from the celling at an art museum and pretend to be all deep about it people will pay them. In the end it's a way of getting food on the table I guess.

It would felt better if he was just a dude locking him self in a box playing a MMO for a week with out being all arty-farty about it.

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#137  Edited By mikethekilla

This seems kinda like a weak ass David Blaine stunt

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#138  Edited By Daftasabat

Could be worse, he could've taken a copy of Wii Fit in by accident

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#139  Edited By Dynamitekyle

This sounds fantastic.

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#140  Edited By mylifeforAiur

Everything is art.

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#141  Edited By 1UStasis
@Ffenix: Duder in a box
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#142  Edited By xymox

Video games turned out to be art after all.  
 
Wait, what?

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#143  Edited By MachoFantastico

Weird, but in a strange way awesome.

Good luck to him and his madness.

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#144  Edited By danielkempster

Great article Patrick. It's nice to see stuff like this on the site alongside all the regular industry news, gives the place more of a personality.

As for Jordan, I wish him the best of luck in his endeavour. I can't imagine how it must feel to be afflicted with PTSD, and to see this guy actively facing his fear to raise awareness of his condition is great. It'd be cool to see a follow-up to this after the ordeal, like an interview, to see how the experience went and what he felt he achieved.

On a much more childish note, 'Bald Knob' is officially my new favourite place name ever.

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#145  Edited By Nefhril

I think It would be more interesting if he played a game like Amnesia: The Dark Descent instead of a social MMO game.

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#146  Edited By Binman88

I thought this was silly when I saw it on RPS a week or two ago, and I still think it's silly. Sure it might be art (as much as a discarded Cornetto wrapper in the glove compartment of your car is art), but it's silly art in my opinion.

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#147  Edited By mrcellophane

I can't wait to see his reaction when the servers go down for maintenance or won't log him in

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#148  Edited By Nentisys

This isnt art. Its just stupid.

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#149  Edited By studnoth1n

when skyrim comes out, i'll be an "artist" for about a week or two, in case anyone asks.

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#150  Edited By Jensonb

Um. That's not art, that's stupid.