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#1 Edited by MocBucket62 (1228 posts) -

Is there any genre in gaming you guys think Giantbomb needs to do a better job covering? Like once you see a quicklook for a game, you seem disappointed and irritated with the way covered it because they lack knowledge of a genre of games that you feel deserve more attention.

  To me, it seems that the Giantbomb crew is rather inconsistent in covering big name strategy games. Now I know that the GB crew is still talking about XCOM: Enemy Unknown and Starcraft II took over Brad for weeks when it came out. However, it seems that the crew only cares about Starcraft, Command and Conquer and Sid Meier's strategy titles when it comes to strategy gaming. I know staff members on Giantbomb like Patrick said they don't usually play those games, but when you have to look at a strategy game, at least be prepared to look at that game and look up some information on the series prior to a quicklook or preview. I remember that the Shogun 2 quick look was released 16 days after the game's initial release. I know Dave said the game was pretty good on the bombcast, but he and Mike seemed reluctant to be in the quick look probably because they were forced to do the quicklook and most likely didn’t want to do it. In the Age of Empires Online quick look, Jeff and Brad admitted that they never played an AOE game before that game. But they treated aspects of the game like they were new to the series, like Jeff thought it was neat to start with a scout in the battle while that has been a stable unit to start with in the series. 

Also during E3, the only strategy game that they talked about was XCOM (or at least in the E3 videos). I know some of you might argue that SimCity is strategy game too, but I see that as a simulation game. But I found it odd that the Giantbomb Crew didn’t talk about the Company of Heroes 2 trailer or even getting excited about getting a sequel to one of the most beloved strategy games on the PC. Makes me afraid that with a promising year in strategy gaming coming up in 2013, games like Total War Rome II and COH 2 will get the quick look only treatment and not get the attention they may deserve on the bombcast. 

I think GB does a great job when covering strategy games they care for. However, I’d personally like better coverage of other big name strategy franchises on this site. Are there any other genres you guys feel GB should do a better job covering or overall do you think GB is pretty well balanced when covering games? Discuss! 

 
EDIT: I should have titled this thread "Any game genres you feel Giantbomb HAS lackluster coverage of?"
#2 Posted by TheHumanDove (2523 posts) -

anime

#3 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19339 posts) -

Anime.

#4 Posted by handlas (2679 posts) -

well it has to be done...

Anime is for jerks.

#5 Posted by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -

@MocBucket62 said:

EDIT: I should of titled this thread "Any game genres you feel Giantbomb HAS lackluster coverage of?"

You should have also written 'should have', not 'of'.

OT: The site is basically geared towards the dudes' tastes, and most appreciate that. They have fun covering what they do, and that utility appears to be transferred to us.

If you're after wide-ranging coverage, something like IGN is probably more appropriate (this isn't me dismissively saying 'go to IGN', btw).

#6 Posted by adz117 (136 posts) -

I know it's really hard to do because of the time investment it takes to get to a point where it's worth showing, but the MMO coverage has always been lacking, I enjoyed watching Matt Rorie play through bits of Cataclysm when that first came out, it was a shame they didn't do anything for MOP. But I also know the guys are not keen on MMOs

#7 Posted by Superkenon (1431 posts) -

Encyclopedia Bombastica. QUICK LOOK EVERYTHING. EVER.

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#8 Posted by A_Talking_Donkey (262 posts) -

Board games.

#9 Posted by MocBucket62 (1228 posts) -
@GetEveryone: Yeah, I don't want to go to IGN. I think I'll go to someplace like Rock, Paper, Shotgun for my strategy news coverage. 
#10 Posted by AlexanderSheen (5007 posts) -

@handlas said:

well it has to be done...

Anime is for jerks.

It had to be.

#11 Posted by Jesna (84 posts) -

I'm almost certain Jeff and Brad talked about COH2 during the E3 bombcasts.

#12 Posted by kerse (2113 posts) -

It's not a genre but other than when the systems got released handhelds are ignored for the most part.

#13 Posted by MocBucket62 (1228 posts) -
@DiscoViking: Did they? Maybe I missed out on that in the E3 bombcasts. My bad.
#14 Posted by bagrm (52 posts) -

Man this thread again?

Since the site only has 7 dudes including Drew and Dave, they don't have the resources necessary to cover every genre and game release like a larger site similar to Gamespot does. Because of this, they choose to only cover large releases and games that interest the staff. Everything else gets passed by due to time and staff constraints. You're not going to get extensive coverage of every game on GB unless the site expands significantly and hires more people.

#15 Posted by FLStyle (4693 posts) -

When they hire more people I think it would be worth asking this again, but as it stands I think it's unfair to question Giant Bomb in general on this when they have so few staffers.

Personally I would like to see them head-hunt a member of the fighting game community to cover fighting games and the community events. Obviously Jeff has NetherRealm Studio releases covered, pre-release at least, but some other games in the genre would benefit from someone from the scene itself working on it.

#16 Posted by BirthWild (259 posts) -

there's a big market for dating sims, having a segment where the guys play the same or different dating sims and who can bag the most "lay-dayz" is obviously what needs to be done for coverage of this popular and deep genre.

#17 Posted by Mirado (993 posts) -

Any genre that they don't cover very well? Sure, I'd go so far as to say there are a few of them.

But should they fix that? Absolutely not. They cover what they are motivated to cover. I mean, they handle the majority of major releases just because they are so big, but the rest of the coverage comes from what they want to look at specifically, and I feel the content is better for it. I don't think this site should strive for balance; to cover an MMO purely for the sake of having coverage isn't good for anyone involved.

I guess it depends on why you come to Giant Bomb. If you're in it for the staff, you're never really disappointed when they miss a game, because you'd trust them to mine it for interesting content if it had any.

#18 Posted by CaLe (3983 posts) -

No. I've never felt this. If anything, they cover certain things too much.

#19 Posted by Asmo917 (411 posts) -

I think the coverage of sports games is...uneven. It's not bad, just uneven. I'm really happy to see Alex reviewing those titles since he seems to have a background with them. I've also enjoyed the Jeff/Vinny "authoritative" QLs since a lot of the fun is watching them come to terms with features and systems they're not familiar with. However, if the Ql type coverage of games is where the site and industry in general are headed, I think these are lacking for people who are looking for purchasing advice. Alex's reviews and the QLs together are a perfect match, so I'd hate to see one go while the other continues.

I also get that sports games aren't the big focus here, so if they wanted to stop covering them altogether, I'd get it and be okay with it. I'd be disappointed, but I'm all for the site making the most of the resources they do have.

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#20 Posted by SpartanHoplite (384 posts) -

Sport games, which is fine with me.

#21 Posted by beepmachine (618 posts) -

@DiscoViking said:

I'm almost certain Jeff and Brad talked about COH2 during the E3 bombcasts.

I remember this too. They said it looked really good. I think Brad in particular was really into it. They talked about the smoke and weather and stuff, and how it influenced the gameplay.

#22 Posted by BrianP (459 posts) -

Wait, you think at some point Jeff (or whoever would make such a decision) was like "We absolutely have to have quicklook coverage of shogun 2! I see you over there Mike and Dave, don't think you're weaseling your way out of this one!"

They don't cover a lot of stuff, you just notice the strategy stuff because that is what you are in to.

#23 Posted by BionicMonster (1032 posts) -

Dating Sims

#24 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -

Fighting games, it would be great if they had someone who was into them more. (as in played them for more than a few weeks)

#25 Posted by MocBucket62 (1228 posts) -

Looking at everyone's comments, I'm realized that I was thinking that Giantbomb could do more with their resources then they actually can. Yeah I have noticed that Strategy and even Sports games get very little coverage on the site, but that's really because A: most of the staff has little to no interest in those genres and B: the site isn't big enough to be capable of providing a wide range of video game coverage. I also posted up some inaccurate information about COH 2 at E3 in the topic and I'm sorry I didn't look that up before posting. Man I feel stupid. 

#26 Posted by TooWalrus (13197 posts) -
@AlexanderSheen said:

@handlas said:

well it has to be done...

Anime is for jerks.

It had to be.

Because if it hadn't been...
#27 Posted by Kerned (1170 posts) -

@Mirado said:

Any genre that they don't cover very well? Sure, I'd go so far as to say there are a few of them.

But should they fix that? Absolutely not. They cover what they are motivated to cover. I mean, they handle the majority of major releases just because they are so big, but the rest of the coverage comes from what they want to look at specifically, and I feel the content is better for it. I don't think this site should strive for balance; to cover an MMO purely for the sake of having coverage isn't good for anyone involved.

I guess it depends on why you come to Giant Bomb. If you're in it for the staff, you're never really disappointed when they miss a game, because you'd trust them to mine it for interesting content if it had any.

You just hit the nail on the head. I don't want them covering stuff that they aren't interested in.

#28 Posted by JasonR86 (9703 posts) -

Any genre they don't like.

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#29 Posted by RiotControl (37 posts) -

Their sports coverage isn't too bad. It seems dependent on what sports the staff are particularly into like Alex Navarro who wrote a review for NBA2K13 and the main crew provided a quicklook for. (Which is HILARIOUS, btw) Not having the best sports coverage is also not a problem for me.

Grand Strategy games like Hearts of Iron, Europa Universalis, etc. (I actually have no idea what that sub-genre is called)

I was going to say trade-sims, but upon looking up a few quick looks, it actually does seem like they do pretty well there.

I suppose smaller studio PC games and indie titles are left out, but anything with any amount of hype behind it gets covered, so I think you really can't complain there. They're guaranteed to have a quick look of Natural Selection 2 next week, for instance.

Hm... I have no interest at all in handheld games, so maybe it's the fact that I never watch their quick looks on them, but it seems like there aren't too many of those, which is also fine by me.

Honestly, I think they do a great job covering most games that have at least some amount of hype or at least a cult following behind. (And Patrick picks out quite a few small indie games) We've seen them make quick looks based off of what the community discusses on the forums before so... I'd say if you want a game covered in a quick look, keep up the discussion on the forums.

#30 Posted by Slay3r1583 (612 posts) -

JRPGs

I don't really mind though. The guys clearly aren't into them and I think I'd rather have no coverage than shitty coverage.

#31 Posted by slayergnome (122 posts) -

Board games, seems like they only covered one.

#32 Posted by PenguinDust (12514 posts) -

iOS and Android...thankfully.

#33 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (3364 posts) -

maybe ios and android games?

#34 Posted by Genkkaku (735 posts) -

crazy scary Japanese games

#35 Posted by Begilerath (175 posts) -

I think any "problem" with coverage could be fixed if they hire more "tech" guys, so Dave, Vinny and Drew had more time to cover weird strategy games, flight sims, farming simulators and whatnot.

#36 Posted by notdavid (839 posts) -

I don't want them to devote too much of their time to games that they aren't passionate about, but I'd like to see some more weird indie stuff. Patrick covers some of that in Worth Reading, but not enough.

#37 Posted by upwarDBound (654 posts) -

The great thing about this site is that they cover some games that almost no one else does. Who else took an in-depth look at Story Hour Adventures? Or how about Farming Simulator? It's a great balance of comedic vs actually informative looks at certain games and sometimes both at once.

So if they don't cover every strategy title or sports game I'm not that upset about it.

#38 Posted by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

Bus driving simulators and accounting software are two areas where GB coverage is a little weak.

#39 Edited by AlexW00d (6275 posts) -

Strategy games that aren't made by Firaxis.

E:@Ravenlight said:

Bus driving simulators and accounting software are two areas where GB coverage is a little weak.

If they did a series of videos where they played those German Simulator games I would be a happy, happy person.

#40 Posted by Doctorchimp (4076 posts) -

Hotline Miami right now.

I was about to buy it, but Steam didn't have my credit card saved this time...so I gotta get up and look for my wallet...

#41 Posted by AndrewB (7613 posts) -

Obscure janky dating sims. Such an underrepresented genre.

I mean, for the most part Giant Bomb only seriously covers the "big" releases and then jokingly for entertainment purposes tosses in other things. That's obviously not always the case, though. They cover what they like and what they're comfortable with. The only way to cover all avenues would be to hire specific genre staff. Although even with Anime editor Brad Shoemaker, you don't see them coving those dating sims.

#42 Posted by Neurotic (632 posts) -

Oh, OP, why would you make this thread? Now all the 'They should have a member of staff specifically for MMOs/JRPGs' people will come out. I hate those guys.

#43 Posted by redbliss (647 posts) -

MOBAs

#44 Posted by YOU_DIED (703 posts) -

The Dark Souls genre

#45 Posted by MocBucket62 (1228 posts) -
@Neurotic: I wanted to get this off of my chest for a while now and I finally had the time to make this thread. I just thought GB could actually improve in coverage by being more balanced on games they tend to ignore, but that really isn't what GB is suppose to be. Its a bad thread, I know. I should appreciate the great content GB produces to its members everyday no matter what they look at and shut up. 
 
And I have noticed a good amount of commenters saying that MMOs, JRPGs, and Dating Sims are overlooked. I actually think GB does a good job looking at MMOs, but sorry for bringing upon this displeasure to you.
#46 Posted by Fredchuckdave (5469 posts) -

Anything Jeff doesn't like

#47 Posted by IrrelevantJohn (1070 posts) -

@TheHumanDove said:

anime

This

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#48 Posted by MikkaQ (10288 posts) -

I think they cover what they have interest in, asking them or pushing them to cover things they don't necessarily want to write about would just lead to kinda boring content. You need to have people that are enthusiastic about what they're writing about or it's gonna show.

#49 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4351 posts) -

Porn games.

#50 Posted by Neurotic (632 posts) -

@MocBucket62: Well, your argument is more reasoned than the ones of the people I mentioned before, so it's all good. I think that people who're after MMO/JRPG coverage would be extremely annoyed if it got covered and the staff hate it all or aren't as interested/knowledgeable as they are. Take the Guild Wars 2 QL for instance and some of the threads made after they discussed FFXIII-2. As someone who plays, and likes, JRPGs I wouldn't be pissed off if they were 'bad at the game' or didn't know as much as I did but I would get bummed out if they covered every single one and were constantly negative (as I believe they would be). Some things are better left unsaid. If you come to this site looking purely for game news/coverage then, sure, you could make the argument that lots of games get neglected and I wouldn't disagree. I would argue, though, that they seem to be covering things that they never would have in the past (PES 2013, that Pokemon Conquest thing, all those Kinect games).

Also, a smaller point. There are a lot of games these days and they're only 7 dudes (if we include Drew and Dave who cover their own little niches).

Did someone really say Dating Sims as a serious response (forgive me for not reading the rest of the thread)? Cos that could only go badly.