#1 Posted by Shotgunblast97 (125 posts) -

So I am going to start playing the game Shin megami tensei Lucifers call and I am wondering if any of you have have tips for me berfore I start playing it. Also could you try to keep from spoiling anything plot wise.

#2 Posted by Apsup (38 posts) -

Rembemr that buff and de-buff skills are really useful and necessary against many bosses.

Also remember that the answer for many hard bosses isn't just grind more levels, but to recruit and fuse suitable demons. For example;if a boss uses a lot of fire attacks, make sure that no-one in your party is weak against it and try to get at least someone who is strong against fire (or nulls or drains it, that's even better). Always when you die try to think was there some easily fixable weakness in your party that made you die.

#3 Edited by Neurotic (632 posts) -
  • Specialise your main character. Choose something you want him to do and stick with it and dump stats toward that too. You usually want a buff/debuff spell on him as well. I had him be a physical guy with debuffs.
  • In terms of getting extra turns, critical physical hits > hitting elemental weaknesses. At least once you get out of early game anyway.
  • Buffs and debuffs! Use them! If you've played a Persona game or another SMT game, you should know this already anyway. You can stack them up to 5 times, which becomes very useful.
  • Don't be afraid to use a FAQ. This is a hard game.
  • Switch Magatamas (you'll know what this means soon enough) when you're one fight away from levelling up to get the good skills from Magas with bad stats.
  • Don't worry too much about the Labyrinth of Amala (again, you'll soon know what this means). It's for people going for the True End. I wouldn't recommend going for that ending the first playthrough.
  • And finally, since I'm assuming you're playing the EU version cos 'Lucifer's Call', ignore Dante. He sucks.
#4 Edited by believer258 (11994 posts) -

When you see this guy:

grab a tissue box. Oh, and make sure you have someone with Media and someone with Sukukaja and Rakukaja. I haven't completed the game yet, but in 25 hours of play I have never come across someone as fucking obnoxious as him.

He is so notoriously difficult because before this point, buffs are handy but not absolutely crucial. The point here is to teach you that buffs and debuffs in Nocturne (Lucifer's Call in Europe) are just as important as exploiting weaknesses. He is also there to teach you that this game isn't going to let you get to the ending easily.

EDIT: Another thing - this game, thankfully, doesn't require a ton of grinding if you do most of the battles that you come across and play well. So when you come across something that you can't pass, the answer is almost certainly not "go back and grind out a few levels" if you've been participating in battles thus far and not running. It's usually that you're playing badly.

#5 Edited by Animasta (14712 posts) -

@neurotic: don't just tell him to specialize, the only true way is physical; focus + freikugel with 40 strength is the only way to go.

#6 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5841 posts) -

Fog Breath is your friend. Whatever you do, make sure you get that skill as soon as possible, and keep it.

Also don't try to complete the extra dungeon on your first play-through.

And since I don't know how familiar you are with the mechanics of the SMT series in general, I'll add that you should almost always favor fusing new demons instead of trying to level your old ones up.

#7 Edited by YI_Orange (1163 posts) -

Focus + heavy/severe phys wins boss fights. I would just buff the shit out of my party, debuff the shit out of the boss, and crack him a couple times with my demi fiend and boss fight over. And yes, fog breath is amazing.

I ended the game with a Garuda, a White Rider, and a Yurlunger. I definitely could have fused them all at least one more time before getting to the end of the game, but I was very happy with the synergy my party had and I couldn't find anything to fuse any of them into that was getting a skill set I would be happy with. Garuda was a little squishier than I would have liked, but the other two held their own.

But honestly, I'm just gonna give the tip I like to give about any video game. Just play it. If you worry too much about things you're just gonna feel overwhelmed. Everyone has their way of doing things and people like to play things up. I like to think I'm pretty good at video games, but I still basically fudge my way through them. People act like you NEED spells or whatever for certain parts, but you really don't. Just play, you'll be ok. The internet will always be there if you really feel like you need it.

#8 Edited by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -