Are there any "flawless" long-term franchises?

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#1  Edited By zanzibarbreeze

Are there any "flawless" game franchises that have had about four or more entries in the series? Obviously, the longer a franchise goes on the more likely it is to have a bad outing here or there. I guess in part this is a very subjective question. The only one I could come up with after about a minute of thinking was the Wipeout series. I'm fine with all of the games in the franchise, but I know those weird "hardcore" Wipeout players hate Wipeout Fusion and everything that followed. But for me, Wipeout is a series that hasn't really had a misstep (I haven't played Wipeout 64. I hope that doesn't disqualify.).
 
EDIT: Definition of long term: Poor word choice maybe, but a franchise with more than four games. So, Street Fighter, Need for Speed, Twisted Metal, Wipeout, Metal Gear, Castlevania, et cetera. Not Uncharted, or Mass Effect, or Gears of War. Franchises that transcend console generations, if you will.

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#2  Edited By Feser

Half-life in my opinion.
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#3  Edited By AgentofChaos

I know the other day I was thinking about this and I had a few series that really had no bad games. 
None of which are coming to mind right now. I don't think there really is a "flawless" long-term franchise.
Also define long term!

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#4  Edited By Aetos

How long is "long-term?" But truthfully I would say no. No game is ever perfect.

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#5  Edited By TheGremp

In my opinion, Street Fighter has never gone wrong. (except for Street Fighter the Movie: The Game >_<) 
 
Half-Life has been consistently awesome, but I personally wouldn't call that "long-term".

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#6  Edited By Yummylee

Flawless?? No...But there are plenty of high-quality franchises that kept to it during every entry. Metal Gear Solid for example.
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#7  Edited By TheGreatGuero

Mortal Kombat. Flawless victory.
 
Yeah, okay, not even close, but hey, I liked your word choice.

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#8  Edited By pause422

No game is flawless, and none will ever be.

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#9  Edited By buzz_clik
@ZanzibarBreeze said:

" The only one I could come up with after about a minute of thinking was the Wipeout series. I'm fine with all of the games in the franchise, but I know those weird "hardcore" Wipeout players hate Wipeout Fusion and everything that followed. But for me, Wipeout is a series that hasn't really had a misstep (I haven't played Wipeout 64. I hope that doesn't disqualify.). "

I'd agree with you on Wipeout. I even loved Wipeout Fusion, which I don't think is thought of very fondly. One of my favourite game soundtracks on that one, too.
 
Wipeout 64 is pretty crap (the draw distance is terrible, for a start) but it doesn't really count for me as it's a flawed port of the excellent Playstation games. The games that it rips bits from are ace, though.
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#10  Edited By FrankCanada97

I think all of the Battlefield games have been quality titles. Some may disagree about Battlefield: 2142, but I never understood the perceived hate towards that game.

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#11  Edited By Dalai

The only ones I can think of that may qualify as flawless would be Metroid, Zelda, and maybe Half-Life. Nearly every franchise that has been active the past 10 years have at least one bad apple or several.

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#12  Edited By Heartagram

God Of War for me. Maybe Mario if you just stick with the main games and not mario party and stuff

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#13  Edited By zanzibarbreeze
@AgentofChaos:@Tactical_Kill:Definition of long term: Poor word choice maybe, but a franchise with more than four games. So, Street Fighter, Need for Speed, Twisted Metal, Wipeout, Metal Gear, Castlevania, et cetera. Not Uncharted, or Mass Effect, or Gears of War. Franchises that transcend console generations, if you will. That's my unofficial definition of long term in this context. :)
 
I appreciate the sentiment towards Half-Life, but I would include the Episodes as part of Half-Life 2. In other words, I don't think it's been around long enough. But I do agree that the series by in large is pretty good. I haven't played Decay or those side missions, though.
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#14  Edited By peacebrother

Probably Metroid. 
 
Metroid 
Metroid 2
Super Metroid
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Zero Mission
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid Prime 3
Metroid Prime Hunters
Metroid Prime Pinball
 
That's every Metroid game. Just look at the list. The only two I wouldn't consider to be stunning in every way are Hunters and Pinball, and even they were good.  
 
Bottom line: Every single Metroid game is good.

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#15  Edited By Captain_Insano

Monkey Island.
 
Every game has been funny and enjoyable

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#16  Edited By AgentofChaos
@Captain_Insano said:
" Monkey Island.  Every game has been funny and enjoyable "
The PS2 Game wasn't very good.
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#17  Edited By AgentofChaos

Well, anyone else here think Age of Empires has stood up pretty well?

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#18  Edited By DuhQbnSiLo

Anything from  blizzard

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#19  Edited By SirPsychoSexy
@DuhQbnSiLo said:
" Anything from  blizzard "
Yea, and thats about it
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#20  Edited By Captain_Insano
@AgentofChaos: was the PS2 one 'Escape from Monkey Island' which was the 3d-ish one? I only ever played them on PC and am fairly sure that the PS2 version was a port of this. I thought about that game when I made my response and although it was definitely the weakest game in the series, it still had some funny and great classic monkey island moments and wasn't a 'bad game', just not as good as others in the series. 
 
I agree with you on Age of Empires. I would also argue that the Total War games are consistently good. Complex and getting repetetive yes, but still good games
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#21  Edited By ninjakiller

Resident Evil series.

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#22  Edited By zanzibarbreeze
@AgentofChaos: Age of Empires is probably a good call. Age of Empires, for being about 100MB, is a pretty damn good game. Only path finding issues. But from 2 onwards, I can't say they had much of a misstep. 
 
So are we feeling Wipeout, AoE, and Metroid?
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#23  Edited By EchoForge

Panzer Dragoon and Civilization? 
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#24  Edited By thatfrood

Civilization, maybe? Although that may be a bit of a stretch, seeing as all of the game are, essentially, identical... besides gameplay improvements in between.
Age of Empires is great.
Grand Theft Auto also has, for the most part, solid games.
Nobody knows what I'm talking about with this one... but the Myth games were all great.
Europa Universalis is solid.
Oh, and Myst.

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#25  Edited By EchoForge
@ninjakiller:
I don't know...there was that rail shooter/light gun game for the PS2.
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#26  Edited By sodiumCyclops

Project Gotham Racing? 4 was badass.

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#27  Edited By zanzibarbreeze
@ninjakiller: Not to my tastes. But I thought Zero and the Gun Survivor series, and, hell, even Code Veronica were despised by critics. Which is not to say critics are correct about everything. I'm just sayin'.
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#28  Edited By Julmust

I wish that ten years in the future I could write in a thread like this and say "Borderlands".

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#29  Edited By xyzygy

Metroid and Zelda, for me. Half-Life maybe...

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#30  Edited By ArchScabby

Infamous.... wait...

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#31  Edited By Ferginator4k

Any Bioware game (except maybe Jade empire), in particular id say the Mass Effect games.

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#32  Edited By shirogane

Metal Gear Solid series, if you don't include the psp games, more specifically the Acid ones.

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#33  Edited By Jost1

Ace Attorney, bitches. Still going strong on that one.

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#34  Edited By WinterSnowblind
@Ferginator4k said:

" Any Bioware game (except maybe Jade empire), in particular id say the Mass Effect games. "

They're all made by Bioware, but they're not one franchise.  And like was said by the original poster, ME doesn't come close to being a long term franchise.   I'd also disagree with Half-Life, it's been around for a long time but has had very few itterations to really count.  Plus Blue Shift was pretty awful. 
 
Monkey Island would perhaps be one I count.  Escape from Monkey Island was definitely a low point, but it still had its moments and was mostly an enjoyable game.  All the other games in the series have been excellenet, especially the recent Tales of Monkey Island.  But I suppose if you're looking for "flawless" MI4 lowers the bar too much.
 
I wouldn't count Metal Gear Solid because of 2 and 4 either, which were significantly worse than 1 and 3, as well as the Online, Portable Ops and Acid games.
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#35  Edited By Jost1

I've loved every Halo game so for me personally that's a pretty "flawless" franchise

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#36  Edited By SeriouslyNow

Mario.  There are so very poor games in that franchise across so many decades and so many systems.

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#37  Edited By zanzibarbreeze
@Shirogane said:

" Metal Gear Solid series, if you don't include the psp games, more specifically the Acid ones. "

and @WinterSnowblind: Metal Gear 1 and 2; Metal Gear Solid 1, Twin Snakes, Metal Gear Solid 2; Acid 1 and 2, are the better games in the series for me. The rest are not as good. So we're kind of different in that respect. :)  And 4 is a waste of space on my shelf. But it stays up on there as long as Splinter Cell: Double Agent does. The PS3 version of that game was terrible.
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#38  Edited By Atlas

I don't think Half-Life can count because there are only two full length games in the series. Age of Empires stumbles on AoEIII. I would have said Forza, but maybe 6-7 years isn't long enough to be considered.
 
I'd say the series that best meet the criteria would be Virtua Fighter, Civilization, SimCity, the Tales series of JRPGs and traditional BioWare RPGs (BG 1+2, NWN, DA:O)

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#39  Edited By NathHaw
Space Quest
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#40  Edited By c1337us

Metal Gear springs to mind for me. I would like to say Silent Hill as well because I personally don't think there has been any bad ones but it doesn't fit in the category really because there has been a definate slow decline in the series for a period of time from 2 up until Shattered Memories. Metroid is also a good choice.

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#41  Edited By Yukoei

Ratchet & Clank. 
 
*runs*
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#42  Edited By guiseppe

I'd say Half-Life as well. It's been around for over 10 years after all.

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#43  Edited By penguindust

The Sims celebrates it's 10th anniversary and if we just look at the PC titles, then I'd count it among the best.  Each of the 3 releases and the majority of the expansions involved were great fun.  If there is a problem with the franchise, it's that there has been some EA over saturation with the add-on packs, but since you don't need each and every one, I am willing to over look that.  Sadly, if we count the Sims franchise's advances into the console and portable market, then things look very sad.  I don't know why anyone would want to play this game on anything other than a PC (or Mac), but I guess that's not an option for some.   Sims on PC, good; Sims on anything else, bad.  Not a "flawless" franchise, true but one that has fared better then most over an extended time period. 

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#44  Edited By Lowbrow
@AgentofChaos said:

" Well, anyone else here think Age of Empires has stood up pretty well? "

I personally hated the shit out of AOE3 (the colonial one). Don't know why, just didnt do anything for me.
 
EDIT: Also, I'm going to go ahead and nominate the Total War series - Despite the fact that maybe one or two were a bit hinky, they are always ambitious, and always leave me wanting more.
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#45  Edited By ProfessorEss
@Bloviator said:
" Space Quest "
Aww yeah! That's what  I'm talkin about.
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#46  Edited By AgentofChaos
@Lowbrow said:
" @AgentofChaos said:

" Well, anyone else here think Age of Empires has stood up pretty well? "

I personally hated the shit out of AOE3 (the colonial one). Don't know why, just didnt do anything for me.  EDIT: Also, I'm going to go ahead and nominate the Total War series - Despite the fact that maybe one or two were a bit hinky, they are always ambitious, and always leave me wanting more. "
Fair enough, I know many people who did not like AoE3. I would say AoE isn't flawless though. All the games were good but none were excellent.
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#47  Edited By ProfessorEss
@Yukoei said:

" Ratchet & Clank.  *runs* "

I guess I'd have agree with that. Every game in the franchise looks good, plays good, and is well-made.
 
Unfortunately, I find them so similar that I've made a habit of only playing every second release - but I enjoy every second one quite a bit.
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#48  Edited By inkeiren

I am incapable of understanding how anyone who likes metal gear solid could not like metal gear solid 3.
 
God damn. It doesn't just confuses me, it confounds me.

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#49  Edited By armaan8014

The sims

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#50  Edited By Darklord110

I'd say Metroid and Half-Life.