Are wii games rated on a lower scale?

Now I don't mean to say that wii games suck and there's none htat are good, but what I have noticed is that even me, whenever I play a wii game that is even remotely fun, I think highly of it.   Just about any good wii game is one of the consoles strongest games too. I don't think it's an intentional thing, just subconcious.  I went out and bought warioware the other day...no way in hell would that be acceptable on the 360 or ps3...it's short and such of a limited scope.

I guess to put it recently, ExciteBots on gamespot, 8.0.   Now while I'm sure this game is fun, it really just doesn't seem like it'd exactly be called too great of a game had it been on the 360 or ps3 there.  Look at PGR4 (same score about) and Motorstorm (scored lower).  Do you really think ExciteBots competes with these guys? 
Onto my next example, No More Heroes on gamespot.  I played it and I actually liked it.  That being said, going off of gamespot's scores, they gave it AAA.  Is this game even close to that?  Need I remind you that DMC, NG2, Dead Rising,etc. aren't that high?   Do you actually believe that NMH is above that quality?  I really don't.

Edit: and ever notice that wii games never have more features than the core game really?   Look at Halo 3 or PGR4, those games have all the features you'd expect and more.
So what do you think? 

I think the games on the Wii are rated against the Wii's library as opposed to the library of its contemporaries.  So, in a way, yes.

I guess it's just rare for a good wii game too come along so when one does it's rated highly high.

From Gamespot's review guidelines:

"We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres

Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards."

So, in short, yes.

I think that wii reviews value different things to other consoles

Hmm...I guess maybe the motion control adds something that you couldn't do on other consoles, I don't know.

ExciteBots on gamespot, 8.0.   Now while I'm sure this game is fun, it really just doesn't seem like it'd exactly be called too great of a game had it been on the 360 or ps3 there.  Look at PGR4 (same score about) and Motorstorm (scored lower).  Do you really think ExciteBots competes with these guys?   

Onto my next example, No More Heroes on gamespot.  I played it and I actually liked it.  That being said, going off of gamespot's scores, they gave it AAA.  Is this game even close to that?  Need I remind you that DMC, NG2, Dead Rising,etc. aren't that high?   Do you actually believe that NMH is above that quality?

I think you're kinda onto something Smug actually. I'm sure they do have to take into account that a Wii game can never compete on sheer detail graphically, etc. So it would be unfair for them to score all Wii games lower on terms of graphics simply because the console can't handle anything better, so I'm sure they review it under the basis of the system it's on.

So in essence, yes.

So you're assuming that Wii games are rated higher just because they're on the Wii?
I like that. It's fun seeing how different people always manage find completely different (often opposite) ways to criticize a site's reviews.

A good game is always judged on its own merits. Should Mega Man 9 be rated lower in comparison to other games on the 360, PS3, or Wii? I don't think so.

"I think the games on the Wii are rated against the Wii's library as opposed to the library of its contemporaries.  So, in a way, yes."

Smug, the title of your thread does not at all match your statements in the OP. You imply with the title that WIi games are not rated as well as games on other consoles when they deserve a better grade. In the OP you say that some Wii games dont deserve the grade they are getting. I couldn't disagree more. I feel like most of the time some great wii games get the shaft from certain sources (cough Gameinformer cough). For example, you said that No More Heroes didnt deserve the 9.0 it got?(I did) Then maybe you would enjoy game informers rating of the game of a 6.0. The idea that this game is only slightly better than mediocre is laughable to me. But that is hardly the only time that Game Informer has barfed on a game i love. Its gotten to the point where I know i'll like a game if they give the game a 7.0 or lower.

"EvilTwin said:

"I think the games on the Wii are rated against the Wii's library as opposed to the library of its contemporaries.  So, in a way, yes."

Yeah, I would agree. I think it's pretty sad that Wii Sports, while basically a pretty shallow tech demo, is still one of the best games the Wii has to offer."

I'm gonna have to say that I think Super Mario Galaxy may be the most overrated game this generation. I found it to be flawed and shockingly mediocre.

Wii games have no way in competing against the other 2 machines or PC, that's all there is to it. There are some good games but they are all relative to the rest of the Wii's dismal library.

Cue a million post thread.

"Cue a million post thread."

Well most sites base their scores based on the other games on the system. Most Wii games are shovelware so there are obviously lower standards for the platform. A game like Excitebots is really great compared to the other games the Wii has.

A game like Excitebots is really great compared to the other games the Wii has.

"HandsomeDead said:

"Cue a million post thread."

Wii games are generally rated very, very low. Even the great ones. This thread doesn't make any sense!"

"Meowayne said:

"HandsomeDead said:

"Cue a million post thread."

Wii games are generally rated very, very low. Even the great ones. This thread doesn't make any sense!"

I'm sure that won't stop a few of you."

"HandsomeDead said:

"Meowayne said:

"HandsomeDead said:

"Cue a million post thread."

Wii games are generally rated very, very low. Even the great ones. This thread doesn't make any sense!"

I'm sure that won't stop a few of you."

Stop a few of us of doing what exactly?"

I'm anticipating an essay or two from Al3xand3r and maybe a few multicoloured charts, graphs and statistical analysis from oldschool to prove why we're wrong, but hey, it's just opinion."

The Wii is its on genre, call it what you will, Gamecube 1.5, Last Gen, Shovelware Station, PS2 Port Machine and hate all you want, but it still lives. I live with it and enjoy the games I enjoy.

Super Mario Galaxy is not my favorite Mario game, nothing has come close to Mario 64 for me and that's counting the 2D versions. I think the ratings have fulfilled their duty, crap exists and a lot of it is on the Wii, so the scores and reviews reflect that. 

I am going to disagree with you Smug.  It is an interesting theory but falls short on other demonstrations.  The games you are pointing is what you would, in your opinion, consider overrated.  There are people out there that are going to call the Halo series overrated.

Well, I think Wii is fun, cant believe so many haters on nintendo.

"OmegaPirate said:

"AgentJ said:

"Smug, the title of your thread does not at all match your statements in the OP. You imply with the title that WIi games are not rated as well as games on other consoles when they deserve a better grade. In the OP you say that some Wii games dont deserve the grade they are getting. I couldn't disagree more. I feel like most of the time some great wii games get the shaft from certain sources (cough Gameinformer cough). For example, you said that No More Heroes didnt deserve the 9.0 it got?(I did) Then maybe you would enjoy game informers rating of the game of a 6.0. The idea that this game is only slightly better than mediocre is laughable to me. But that is hardly the only time that Game Informer has barfed on a game i love. Its gotten to the point where I know i'll like a game if they give the game a 7.0 or lower.

As for Excitebots, they are really different games. PGR and Motorstorm are racing SIMs, while Excitebots is more of an arcade racer. but even if they were to be compared, I wouldn't be shocked if Excitebots is pure fun, as Excitetruck was.

"

I really wouldnt call motorstorm a racing sim mate"

Fair enough, but it certainly isn't an arcade racer. "

"So you're assuming that Wii games are rated higher just because they're on the Wii?I like that. It's fun seeing how different people always manage find completely different (often opposite) ways to criticize a site's reviews. "

What are you fucking talking about, smug? Wario Land was rated significantly lower than Uncharted.

"LordAndrew said:

"So you're assuming that Wii games are rated higher just because they're on the Wii?I like that. It's fun seeing how different people always manage find completely different (often opposite) ways to criticize a site's reviews. "

Well look at things--- warioware was rated favorably.  It's a 2d platformer that lasts about 3 hours.  No extras except a couple of secret levels.   Full priced. Compare to Uncharted. "

Uncharted was also praised by critics. In fact it received more praise than Wario Land Shake It. What was the point of that comparison again?

Edit: You'll note that I referred to Wario Land instead of WarioWare. Since you said "platformer", that's what I assumed you were talking about. WarioWare is not a platforming game.

"Uncharted was also praised by critics. In fact it received more praise than Wario Land Shake It. What was the point of that comparison again?"

"LordAndrew said:

"So you're assuming that Wii games are rated higher just because they're on the Wii?I like that. It's fun seeing how different people always manage find completely different (often opposite) ways to criticize a site's reviews. "

Well look at things--- warioware was rated favorably.  It's a 2d platformer that lasts about 3 hours.  No extras except a couple of secret levels.   Full priced. Compare to Uncharted. "

"SmugDarkLoser said:

"LordAndrew said:

"So you're assuming that Wii games are rated higher just because they're on the Wii?I like that. It's fun seeing how different people always manage find completely different (often opposite) ways to criticize a site's reviews. "

Well look at things--- warioware was rated favorably.  It's a 2d platformer that lasts about 3 hours.  No extras except a couple of secret levels.   Full priced. Compare to Uncharted. "

Platformer? I think you're confusing games there, especially since WarioWare had some 3D moments."

There's a fairly large gap between the scores Uncharted and Wario Land received. The only real similarity in those scores is that they are generally positive.

It has already been deemed official that Smug is a Dumbass and this topic has just pushed it forward.  To make a reference to one game that is critically praised and be holding a different game all together.

In fact, they are considered two completely different series.
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Godwind said:

"I am going to disagree with you Smug.  It is an interesting theory but falls short on other demonstrations.  The games you are pointing is what you would, in your opinion, consider overrated.  There are people out there that are going to call the Halo series overrated.

  

  

Perhaps we could easily compare some titles that are multiplatform.

Dead Rising

Site	Xbox 360 Score	Wii Score
Metacritic	85	62
IGN	83	69
Gamespot	85	65
Cheat Code Centeral	88	69
Games Master UK	95	62

Call of Duty: World at War

Site	Xbox 360 Score	Wii Score	Playstation 3 score
Metacritic	84	83	85
Gamespot	85	85	85
Cheat Code Central	92	84	92
3DJeugos	88	81	88
IGN	92	80	92
GameDaily	80	70	80

Guitar Hero 3

Site	Xbox 360  Score	Wii Score	Playstation 3
Metacritic	85	86	83
Cheat Code Central	82	92	82
Daily Game	90	90	90
IGN	89	86	89
Gamespot	80	80	80

Sonic Unleashed

Site	Xbox 360 Score	Wii Score	Playstation 3 Score
Metacritic	60	66	54
Games Master UK	80	80	N/A
Gamer 2.0	77	77	77
Gamezone	71	75	N/A
IGN	45	72	45
Gamespot	35	70	35
Cheat Code Central	72	70	72
Game Informer	60	65	60

Notice that the same games that have been on multiple platforms have neither been higher nor especially lower?  It isn't that games are being scaled down or scaled up on the Wii.  They are looking at the game itself.A Game that generally scores well is suppose to represent a game that is suppose represent a game, on general terms, a good game.  Contrast to that, a game that scores poorly ,on general terms, represents a poor standard in gaming."

"Since no one has taken the time to criticize my charts or anything, I will assume I am right. "

"It has already been deemed official that Smug is a Dumbass and this topic has just pushed it forward.  To make a reference to one game that is critically praised and be holding a different game all together.

In fact, they are considered two completely different series.
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WarioWare Franchise

Godwind said:

"I am going to disagree with you Smug.  It is an interesting theory but falls short on other demonstrations.  The games you are pointing is what you would, in your opinion, consider overrated.  There are people out there that are going to call the Halo series overrated.

  

  

Perhaps we could easily compare some titles that are multiplatform.

Dead Rising

Site	Xbox 360 Score	Wii Score
Metacritic	85	62
IGN	83	69
Gamespot	85	65
Cheat Code Centeral	88	69
Games Master UK	95	62

Call of Duty: World at War

Site	Xbox 360 Score	Wii Score	Playstation 3 score
Metacritic	84	83	85
Gamespot	85	85	85
Cheat Code Central	92	84	92
3DJeugos	88	81	88
IGN	92	80	92
GameDaily	80	70	80

Guitar Hero 3

Site	Xbox 360  Score	Wii Score	Playstation 3
Metacritic	85	86	83
Cheat Code Central	82	92	82
Daily Game	90	90	90
IGN	89	86	89
Gamespot	80	80	80

Sonic Unleashed

Site	Xbox 360 Score	Wii Score	Playstation 3 Score
Metacritic	60	66	54
Games Master UK	80	80	N/A
Gamer 2.0	77	77	77
Gamezone	71	75	N/A
IGN	45	72	45
Gamespot	35	70	35
Cheat Code Central	72	70	72
Game Informer	60	65	60

Notice that the same games that have been on multiple platforms have neither been higher nor especially lower?  It isn't that games are being scaled down or scaled up on the Wii.  They are looking at the game itself.A Game that generally scores well is suppose to represent a game that is suppose represent a game, on general terms, a good game.  Contrast to that, a game that scores poorly ,on general terms, represents a poor standard in gaming."

Since no one has taken the time to criticize my charts or anything, I will assume I am right. "

"I am going to disagree with you Smug.  It is an interesting theory but falls short on other demonstrations.  The games you are pointing is what you would, in your opinion, consider overrated.  There are people out there that are going to call the Halo series overrated.

  

  

Perhaps we could easily compare some titles that are multiplatform.

Dead Rising

Site	Xbox 360 Score	Wii Score
Metacritic	85	62
IGN	83	69
Gamespot	85	65
Cheat Code Centeral	88	69
Games Master UK	95	62

Call of Duty: World at War

Site	Xbox 360 Score	Wii Score	Playstation 3 score
Metacritic	84	83	85
Gamespot	85	85	85
Cheat Code Central	92	84	92
3DJeugos	88	81	88
IGN	92	80	92
GameDaily	80	70	80

Guitar Hero 3

Site	Xbox 360  Score	Wii Score	Playstation 3
Metacritic	85	86	83
Cheat Code Central	82	92	82
Daily Game	90	90	90
IGN	89	86	89
Gamespot	80	80	80

Sonic Unleashed

Site	Xbox 360 Score	Wii Score	Playstation 3 Score
Metacritic	60	66	54
Games Master UK	80	80	N/A
Gamer 2.0	77	77	77
Gamezone	71	75	N/A
IGN	45	72	45
Gamespot	35	70	35
Cheat Code Central	72	70	72
Game Informer	60	65	60

Notice that the same games that have been on multiple platforms have neither been higher nor especially lower?  It isn't that games are being scaled down or scaled up on the Wii.  They are looking at the game itself.A Game that generally scores well is suppose to represent a game that is suppose represent a game, on general terms, a good game.  Contrast to that, a game that scores poorly ,on general terms, represents a poor standard in gaming."

"and Guitar Hero 3 which is the exact same thing on all consoles which probably recieved one review for all of them"

"SmugDarkLoser said:

"and Guitar Hero 3 which is the exact same thing on all consoles which probably recieved one review for all of them"

Did you look at the table? It didn't. "

It's worth mentioning that Wii games usually cost slightly less than other platforms' titles.