Posted by Colorwind (277 posts) -

I’m a completionist. In everything I do really. If I try to fix anything, I won’t stop when it’s at least functional. I keep going until its working as its supposed to. In video games, I strive to get every collectable item, finish all the side quests, and do so before finishing the game proper so I don’t have to go through the game again. Also, when I get games used (which is always) I try to get the case and manual to the point where I’ll not buy it if both are not available. With this in mind, you should also know that I’m a big advocate of moving video games to an all digital format. It would mean cheaper prices for consumers and more convenience and support for titles. Steam is a great example of what this digital exclusive version of the video game industry could be like.

Every hidden package, every side mission, I’ve done it all.

Another reason I support a digital only format for games is because of the benefits it would have towards the environment. Without all those cases and manuals for video games, there would be less waste and less clutter. I am a eco-conscious person who recycles, likes to buy eco-friendly products and who has already gotten rid of my DVD collection in favor of AVI files on my PC. Playing Sonic the Hedgehog a lot and being a big fan of The Lorax as a kid will do that to you, I guess.

I saw this video featuring Adam Sessler of X-Play fame, now working as Editor-in-Chief of games content at Revision 3. In the video, he expressed his distress over throwing away his game cases and putting the game discs in disc binders in order to save space in his new house. The aftermath resulted in numerous bags of cases that would be thrown away and replaced by about five disc binders. Obviously, that’s a lot of space saved not to mention a lot of waste that seems below necessary. He then talked about what seems like a primal need to collect items like game cases or various other types of media. This got me thinking and I realized that while I do some things to be helpful to the environment, I too have this inert desire to collect things regardless of my desire to not be wasteful and for a digital future in video games.

So what did I do? I happen to have an extra disc binder and I put all my games that were disc based into the binder. Xbox 360, PlayStation 2, Wii, all of them into one binder. I still have room. As for the cases, for the time being they’re just stacked in my shelf as I contemplate what to do with them. More importantly though is I’ve resolved to care less about obtaining a case and manual when buying used games. I already buy titles on Steam without batting an eye and the same goes for XBLA titles. If there’s a good deal on buying a full Xbox 360 game on the Xbox Marketplace, I’ll get that as well. It’s admittedly rare, as Microsoft appears to just be ignoring what Valve is doing with Steam, but I do have Halo: Reach, Kameo: Elements of Power, Perfect Dark Zero, Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands, and Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter digitally on the Xbox 360 already.

My Steam library looks like this too.

Backtracking a bit, why did I have this need to collect the cases and manuals to begin with? Well, I remember when I was younger, the box art for games were these flashy but artistic endeavors that got you pumped for the game while also telling you vaguely the experience you were about to have. Manuals in turn were these fully colored books with impressive art in addition to helpful information as to how to play the game. How many times have you been stuck in the game back in the day and pause it to look something up in the manual?

Sadly nowadays, none of this is true. While the front cover is still sometimes great to look at, most of the time they are merely an image of the protagonist of the game with little else and more importantly, you still get that image in digital markets. Manuals have all been removed from games and replaced by flaccid pamphlets that are four pages long and in black and white. More importantly, they are not really manuals as they explain hardly anything about the game. Most of that content has been moved into the game itself via in game tutorials or a How to Play option in the settings menu.

I swear, there’s a meme for everything now.

I know some people who are not in favor of a digital only market because they enjoy their cases and manuals but these have essentially been already taken away. Therefore, my own desire to have cases and manuals to my games is purely on tradition. I will say that for those who want that kind of product should have it available to them as a special edition. Pay an extra five bucks and get a full featured 60 page manual that doubles as an art book as well as an instructional manual with imaginative box art that isn’t covered with legal text and quotes from reviews and previews and is printed on both the front and back of the inlay.

I may sell my cases and manuals on eBay, store them in a box and put it in my storage room, or I may recycle them. One thing I do know already is having all my games in a single disc binder is already extremely convenient. How do you feel about being eco-friendly with your games? What about physical media in general? Comment below and let me know. Oh and here’s the video I was talking about with Adam Sessler. It’s thought-provoking!

#1 Posted by Colorwind (277 posts) -

I’m a completionist. In everything I do really. If I try to fix anything, I won’t stop when it’s at least functional. I keep going until its working as its supposed to. In video games, I strive to get every collectable item, finish all the side quests, and do so before finishing the game proper so I don’t have to go through the game again. Also, when I get games used (which is always) I try to get the case and manual to the point where I’ll not buy it if both are not available. With this in mind, you should also know that I’m a big advocate of moving video games to an all digital format. It would mean cheaper prices for consumers and more convenience and support for titles. Steam is a great example of what this digital exclusive version of the video game industry could be like.

Every hidden package, every side mission, I’ve done it all.

Another reason I support a digital only format for games is because of the benefits it would have towards the environment. Without all those cases and manuals for video games, there would be less waste and less clutter. I am a eco-conscious person who recycles, likes to buy eco-friendly products and who has already gotten rid of my DVD collection in favor of AVI files on my PC. Playing Sonic the Hedgehog a lot and being a big fan of The Lorax as a kid will do that to you, I guess.

I saw this video featuring Adam Sessler of X-Play fame, now working as Editor-in-Chief of games content at Revision 3. In the video, he expressed his distress over throwing away his game cases and putting the game discs in disc binders in order to save space in his new house. The aftermath resulted in numerous bags of cases that would be thrown away and replaced by about five disc binders. Obviously, that’s a lot of space saved not to mention a lot of waste that seems below necessary. He then talked about what seems like a primal need to collect items like game cases or various other types of media. This got me thinking and I realized that while I do some things to be helpful to the environment, I too have this inert desire to collect things regardless of my desire to not be wasteful and for a digital future in video games.

So what did I do? I happen to have an extra disc binder and I put all my games that were disc based into the binder. Xbox 360, PlayStation 2, Wii, all of them into one binder. I still have room. As for the cases, for the time being they’re just stacked in my shelf as I contemplate what to do with them. More importantly though is I’ve resolved to care less about obtaining a case and manual when buying used games. I already buy titles on Steam without batting an eye and the same goes for XBLA titles. If there’s a good deal on buying a full Xbox 360 game on the Xbox Marketplace, I’ll get that as well. It’s admittedly rare, as Microsoft appears to just be ignoring what Valve is doing with Steam, but I do have Halo: Reach, Kameo: Elements of Power, Perfect Dark Zero, Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands, and Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter digitally on the Xbox 360 already.

My Steam library looks like this too.

Backtracking a bit, why did I have this need to collect the cases and manuals to begin with? Well, I remember when I was younger, the box art for games were these flashy but artistic endeavors that got you pumped for the game while also telling you vaguely the experience you were about to have. Manuals in turn were these fully colored books with impressive art in addition to helpful information as to how to play the game. How many times have you been stuck in the game back in the day and pause it to look something up in the manual?

Sadly nowadays, none of this is true. While the front cover is still sometimes great to look at, most of the time they are merely an image of the protagonist of the game with little else and more importantly, you still get that image in digital markets. Manuals have all been removed from games and replaced by flaccid pamphlets that are four pages long and in black and white. More importantly, they are not really manuals as they explain hardly anything about the game. Most of that content has been moved into the game itself via in game tutorials or a How to Play option in the settings menu.

I swear, there’s a meme for everything now.

I know some people who are not in favor of a digital only market because they enjoy their cases and manuals but these have essentially been already taken away. Therefore, my own desire to have cases and manuals to my games is purely on tradition. I will say that for those who want that kind of product should have it available to them as a special edition. Pay an extra five bucks and get a full featured 60 page manual that doubles as an art book as well as an instructional manual with imaginative box art that isn’t covered with legal text and quotes from reviews and previews and is printed on both the front and back of the inlay.

I may sell my cases and manuals on eBay, store them in a box and put it in my storage room, or I may recycle them. One thing I do know already is having all my games in a single disc binder is already extremely convenient. How do you feel about being eco-friendly with your games? What about physical media in general? Comment below and let me know. Oh and here’s the video I was talking about with Adam Sessler. It’s thought-provoking!

#2 Posted by DarthOrange (3892 posts) -

I've got over 200 games downloaded on my PS3 and try to buy digital on 360 and PS3 whenever I can. I love digital too. I don't give the first shit about the environment though, I just like the convenience of not having to swap discs. 

#3 Posted by JasonR86 (9724 posts) -

What can I do to fuck up the Earth as much as possible as a gamer?

#4 Posted by _Chad (960 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

What can I do to fuck up the Earth as much as possible as a gamer?

Throw away six pack rings without cutting them up?

#5 Posted by JOURN3Y (230 posts) -

What about the power consumption of thousands of consoles, t.v.s, computers, and servers so we can enjoy video games. Worrying about the physical waste is a nice thing but our passion for video games has a high energy price. I did a quick google search and it looks like video game cases are recyclable.

#6 Edited by kermoosh (911 posts) -

i like the disc binder idea, i might steal that from you. it would save me some space

#7 Posted by JasonR86 (9724 posts) -

@ChadMasterFlash said:

@JasonR86 said:

What can I do to fuck up the Earth as much as possible as a gamer?

Throw away six pack rings without cutting them up?

I'm fucking doing that shit!

#8 Posted by Colorwind (277 posts) -

@JOURN3Y: I didn't mention this but I don't leave my computer on at night, and I don't plug in all of my consoles.

#9 Posted by TooWalrus (13256 posts) -

@ChadMasterFlash said:

@JasonR86 said:

What can I do to fuck up the Earth as much as possible as a gamer?

Throw away six pack rings without cutting them up?

...do you believe there are people out there who believe dolphins are smarter than humans?

...stupid dolphins.

#10 Posted by McGhee (6075 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

What can I do to fuck up the Earth as much as possible as a gamer?

Well, this guy thinks being a completionist is "eco-friendly."

Me? I buy tons of games and never even play half of them. Fuck the earth.

#11 Posted by JOURN3Y (230 posts) -

@Colorwind: I believe that "eco-friendly" things have to be done at the infrastructural and societal level to have any impact. Nothing I can do will have any substantial impact. I think its almost impossible to live in a developed country and enjoy a normal things that a person would enjoy without having some sort of impact. Everything has a cost.

#12 Posted by commonoutlier (136 posts) -

I'll admit that I joined my environmental club back in high school and now at college primarily because I feel guilty about what we're doing to the environment and the amount of power I probably waste being on the computer all the time (and that something legitimately needs to be done about it), but I do also care, even if it's not necessarily the top thing on my list. I like this topic you've brought up, since it combines that concern for the environment with my number one topic of interest, video games. When I was younger, I actually didn't have much of a care for the boxes, but I liked having the manuals since they often had pictures of the characters and description with them. Nowadays, I'd rather get an art book with no manual/game help components, since if I need a guide there's the Internet.

#13 Posted by Canteu (2821 posts) -

@JasonR86: Burn all of your CD's and other assorted plastics. I hear that beats the shit out of the planet!

#14 Posted by Ravenlight (8011 posts) -

@TooWalrus said:

@ChadMasterFlash said:

@JasonR86 said:

What can I do to fuck up the Earth as much as possible as a gamer?

Throw away six pack rings without cutting them up?

...do you believe there are people out there who believe dolphins are smarter than humans?

...stupid dolphins.

Dolphins are definitely smarter than the people who thing dolphins are smarter than humans. Maybe those people will choke on the six-pack rings.

#15 Posted by ManU_Fan10ne (659 posts) -

I love not having to pop a disc in my PS3, however, I still love cases and manuals (only the colored ones, because the black and white ones feel like they dont care)

#16 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

thats a good thing. i enjoy my buying of cases and collecting them. i kind of feel like with digital downloads that the company might go out of business and can't get access to them.

i have steam also. it's kind of good.