BFBC2 is kind of FAIL?

I was in the PS3 beta and it was pretty sweet. But I new they needed to tweak it some more.
 
Now I'm playing the 360 demo. And why the 360 version seems to have a tad better graphics and looks sharper then the PS3 version. The game seems off? I'm starting this sense that it's just not that fun anymore. The game handles kind of clunky.
 
MW2 is better no doubt. Although I'm not that big into MW2 online becuase it is way to fast paced and just kill die kill die all running around like crazy fast mad. But it is of better quality. BFBC2 feels a tad like arcade trash.. It just does not have the ephfff effect like it's not gritty enough or something?
 
Anyway i may be passing on it and it sucks becuase I'm a battlefield fan but honestly 1943 on Live arcade seems funner?
 
Guees I'll wait for Bungie to bring us all to our knees with Halo Reach  later this year.

They somehow managed to make a game worse than Bad Company 1, which was worse than 1943, which is an XBLA game. Bit more than "kind of" fail right there.

I don't know what you mean because it feels just fine.

I drove off a cliff on a ATV, moved to the back rack, sniped a mother fucker with my rifle, and drove off.   
 
Game is the shit.

No man no. This is supposed to be my sleeper hit of the year.

I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen in gameplay videos it doesn't look anywhere as clunky as Bad Company 1 was.

When I played the demo I didn't care for the shooting at all, but they could fix that in the coming months.

What game did you play? The game is hella awesome sucka.

" I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen in gameplay videos it doesn't look anywhere as clunky as Bad Company 1 was. "

" @natetodamax said:

" I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen in gameplay videos it doesn't look anywhere as clunky as Bad Company 1 was. "

BC1 was far less of a clusterfuck and just about as clunky as this game appears to be, although to be fair we only get one map in the demo, but if that's the map they choose to represent their game then that doesn't really bode well for it. "

• You had to hold the sprint button to sprint
• You could get stuck on anything in the game
• Hitting a small rock in a tank caused you to do a 180 degree turn
• It took a full second after sprinting to bring your weapon up
• Movement/turning speed was just........ not good.

Are you saying they have made the demo (which is usually a part of the final build) worse than its beta?

" @Jayge said:

" @natetodamax said:

" I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen in gameplay videos it doesn't look anywhere as clunky as Bad Company 1 was. "

BC1 was far less of a clusterfuck and just about as clunky as this game appears to be, although to be fair we only get one map in the demo, but if that's the map they choose to represent their game then that doesn't really bode well for it. "

I consider BC1 to be clunky because 

• You had to hold the sprint button to sprint No
• You could get stuck on anything in the game Somewhat
• Hitting a small rock in a tank caused you to do a 180 degree turn Haven't bothered with vehicles yet
• It took a full second after sprinting to bring your weapon up Yes
• Movement/turning speed was just........ not good. Yes, possibly worse than before

 
Does BC2 have these issues?

"

" @Jayge said:

" @natetodamax said:

" I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen in gameplay videos it doesn't look anywhere as clunky as Bad Company 1 was. "

BC1 was far less of a clusterfuck and just about as clunky as this game appears to be, although to be fair we only get one map in the demo, but if that's the map they choose to represent their game then that doesn't really bode well for it. "

I consider BC1 to be clunky because 

• You had to hold the sprint button to sprint
• You could get stuck on anything in the game
• Hitting a small rock in a tank caused you to do a 180 degree turn
• It took a full second after sprinting to bring your weapon up
• Movement/turning speed was just........ not good.

 
Does BC2 have these issues?

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" No man no. This is supposed to be my sleeper hit of the year. "

there are few annoyances that will hopefully be addressed before the game is released or with future patches but other than that its freakin great. can't wait for march 2nd.

" @natetodamax said:

" @Jayge said:

" @natetodamax said:

" I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen in gameplay videos it doesn't look anywhere as clunky as Bad Company 1 was. "

BC1 was far less of a clusterfuck and just about as clunky as this game appears to be, although to be fair we only get one map in the demo, but if that's the map they choose to represent their game then that doesn't really bode well for it. "

I consider BC1 to be clunky because 

• You had to hold the sprint button to sprint No
• You could get stuck on anything in the game Somewhat
• Hitting a small rock in a tank caused you to do a 180 degree turn Haven't bothered with vehicles yet
• It took a full second after sprinting to bring your weapon up Yes
• Movement/turning speed was just........ not good. Yes, possibly worse than before

 
Does BC2 have these issues?

"

>.> "

" @Jayge said:

" @natetodamax said:

" @Jayge said:

" @natetodamax said:

" I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen in gameplay videos it doesn't look anywhere as clunky as Bad Company 1 was. "

BC1 was far less of a clusterfuck and just about as clunky as this game appears to be, although to be fair we only get one map in the demo, but if that's the map they choose to represent their game then that doesn't really bode well for it. "

I consider BC1 to be clunky because 

• You had to hold the sprint button to sprint No
• You could get stuck on anything in the game Somewhat
• Hitting a small rock in a tank caused you to do a 180 degree turn Haven't bothered with vehicles yet
• It took a full second after sprinting to bring your weapon up Yes
• Movement/turning speed was just........ not good. Yes, possibly worse than before

 
Does BC2 have these issues?

"

>.> "

Forgive me for not playing the game. "

"

Are you saying they have made the demo (which is usually a part of the final build) worse than its beta?

"

" @natetodamax said:

" @Jayge said:

" @natetodamax said:

" @Jayge said:

" @natetodamax said:

" I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen in gameplay videos it doesn't look anywhere as clunky as Bad Company 1 was. "

BC1 was far less of a clusterfuck and just about as clunky as this game appears to be, although to be fair we only get one map in the demo, but if that's the map they choose to represent their game then that doesn't really bode well for it. "

I consider BC1 to be clunky because 

• You had to hold the sprint button to sprint No
• You could get stuck on anything in the game Somewhat
• Hitting a small rock in a tank caused you to do a 180 degree turn Haven't bothered with vehicles yet
• It took a full second after sprinting to bring your weapon up Yes
• Movement/turning speed was just........ not good. Yes, possibly worse than before

 
Does BC2 have these issues?
"

>.> "

Forgive me for not playing the game. "

What? I just answered your questions inside the quote. When did you get so defensive, nate? "

I guess I'll go play the demo.

i was told by a good buddy of mine how he was falling from a plane with a parachute with AA fire going on all around him,    and later i was told he was sniping the enemy time while they were parachute spawning into the battle 
 
sounds pretty badass to me

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I wasn't getting defensive, I thought you bolded the question and put ">.>" as if to say "that was a dumb question" "

I like it just as much as BFBC1 I think, but the problem is the entire Battlefield series is starting to wear on me.  I'm feeling like the entire series needs some radical true gameplay innovations to make it interesting again.

Although I completely disagree with the notion that BF:BC 2 fails, I too am a bit surprised that I like the Xbox demo less than the PS3 beta. I prefer the 360 pad over the PS3 pad, nontheless the controls seem less fluid and immerisve, than they were on the PS3.
 
3 key differences to the PS3 beta, which seem like an odd downstep to me...
 

1. Lack of realtime ragdoll physics on firearm kills (the canned animations are okay, but nowhere near as satisfying as the realtime ragdoll effects were in the PS3 beta - realtime ragdoll effects are in for kills with explosives and roadkills)
2. The ballistics simultation seems to be different (less recoil, less traveltime, less bulletdrop, less damage, more spread - generally less kick to the gunplay). This may be attributed partly to lack of realtime ragdoll effects on gunfire kills and the lack of scope-specialization unlocks decreasing my general accuracy by roughly 10%)
3. The lack of stickdrive, which I'm used to (can't put throttle and break on a analog stick)

i think ill wait for the game to hit retail before i call it junk. the writing in bf:bc was nothing short of spectacular. the voice acting was at the same level. yeah the game had flaws, but the attention that was put into bc's story and actors was what i liked. how many other fps games do that? plus, get on an auto nade launcher and fuck some shit up....tell me THAT's not fuking fun.... 
 
im not saying the story was realistic by any stretch of the imagination. it had just enough collectibles to makke it interesting, good pacing, levels were not arbitrarily long, enemies were varied, pretty good multiplayer, and ill restate the voice actors.....great. they could definitely improve upon the vehicle controls, specifically the helo. i was a god in the bf2 helo, and couldnt do squat in the gold helo. given, id put prolly 200 hrs into the bf2 helo on private servers to achieve that level of performance, but i thought the controls were total trash.

From what I've played of the beta so far on the PC, it seems pretty good. It's not BF2, and I have a few gripes with some minor stuff, but it's shaping up pretty well. I'll take it over MW2.

" Although I completely disagree with the notion that BF:BC 2 fails, I too am a bit surprised that I like the Xbox demo less than the PS3 beta. I prefer the 360 pad over the PS3 pad, nontheless the controls seem less fluid and immerisve, than they were on the PS3.
 
3 key differences to the PS3 beta, which seem like an odd downstep to me...
 

1. Lack of realtime ragdoll physics on firearm kills (the canned animations are okay, but nowhere near as satisfying as the realtime ragdoll effects were in the PS3 beta - realtime ragdoll effects are in for kills with explosives and roadkills)
2. The ballistics simultation seems to be different (less recoil, less traveltime, less bulletdrop, less damage, more spread - generally less kick to the gunplay). This may be attributed partly to lack of realtime ragdoll effects on gunfire kills and the lack of scope-specialization unlocks decreasing my general accuracy by roughly 10%)
3. The lack of stickdrive, which I'm used to (can't put throttle and break on a analog stick)

Other than that, I love the game.  Port Valdez is a bit less open than Arica Harbor and has more narrow chokepoints. I prefer open maps. The graphics are improved over the PS3 Beta though, with higher resolution textures and more particle effects - although it seems to me as if the PS3 Beta was rendered in a higher resolution. I'm looking forward to crosscheck the Xbox demo with the PS3 demo next week. If I like the PS3 demo more than the 360 demo, I'll change my preorder to the PS3 version of the game. It might be that the PS3 can handle more realtime physics because of the high amount of CPU cores in the Cell processor, which might attribute to lack of realtime ragdoll physics on gunfire kills on the 360. I really hope that stickdrive makes a return for release. It would be a shame if it didn't. Also - walking speed seems to be decreased in comparison with the PS3 beta, whereas running speed seems to be the same or even a tad bit faster. Overall I prefer the way the PS3 beta handled movement and ballistics simulation.  Don't let my negatives fool you. Despite my mixed feelings about the changes to the game since the PS3 beta, I love BF:BC 2 a lot. It will definitly be my most played game of 2010 and my go-to online multiplayer game for years to come. I'm only on the fence whether to stick with the 360 version or changing to the PS3 version instead. If I had a modern gaming PC, I'd go for that - but that isn't an option for me right now.  Amazing game - don't let the OP fool you. There is endless fun to be had with BF:BC 2. "

I think it's mad fun and I already like it better than MW2.

" I drove off a cliff on a ATV, moved to the back rack, sniped a mother fucker with my rifle, and drove off.      Game is the shit. "

Jayge is ALIVE. Anyway, i cant be bothered to wait for the download, but my main problem with the first bad company was that if it was a large map vehicles would be anhilated by the laser designator snipers as there was no way to know where they were. The small maps just involved people running around aimlessly with silenced SMGs.

Anther thing that already bothers me and this is even Xbox live. Of course no one is talking and trying to do teamwork.  A game like this really needs good teamwork but nope no one. I guess it's better then why playing MW2 you get all these ass wipes screaming skill streak bitches I own you blah blah blah nonsense.

" Jayge is ALIVE. Anyway, i cant be bothered to wait for the download, but my main problem with the first bad company was that if it was a large map vehicles would be anhilated by the laser designator snipers as there was no way to know where they were. The small maps just involved people running around aimlessly with silenced SMGs. "

BF:BC was kinda fail,
So I would expect nothing less from BC2

" Anther thing that already bothers me and this is even Xbox live. Of course no one is talking and trying to do teamwork.  A game like this really needs good teamwork but nope no one. I guess it's better then why playing MW2 you get all these ass wipes screaming skill streak bitches I own you blah blah blah nonsense. "

" They somehow managed to make a game worse than Bad Company 1, which was worse than 1943, which is an XBLA game. Bit more than "kind of" fail right there. "

Ew, Battlefield on consoles.
 
I'm having fun with the PC beta. It's definitely no BF2, but it'll do until the next real BF game comes out.

You're a fail. 
 
Thread closed.

What are you people on? So far i really like it, after i played the demo i sold MW2 to a friend and pre-ordered it

the game is actually quite good much better than warfare 2 its fun the destruction mechanics work very well and there are a lot of MW2 fan boys in here. i have been playing on the same map for the past well since the beta released and i aint near bored yet trust me this games gonna own.

I really don't understand how people are hating this game.  The demo alone was goddamn incredible, and I can't wait to finally get the final game in my hands. 
 
Also, people...please quit comparing BC2 to fucking MW2.  They are two VERY different kind of games, and trying to COMPARE the two of them as some form of apples to apples situation simply makes you look stupid as fuck. 
 
As for the whole "can't go prone" thing...yeah, it pisses me off...but then again, if I were in an environment where everything can be destroyed...and there are UAV drones flying around shooting people down...and tanks throwing shells everywhere...and noob tubes going off...and grenades... 
 
What I'm saying is this:  it's odd not having prone there, but it's pointless to have it in the game when you've going to be on the move more than anything else in the game.  Get used to combat sniping for once. 
 
The ONLY thing I'm pissed about is the fact that you can still destroy the crates with explosives.  This encourages people to sit back away from everyone and just collapse buildings with a tank or RPGs.  This is stupid and should be changed immediately.  Force people to actually do some work.  It was one of the only two issues I had with the first Bad Company (the second being that there was no toggle for sprinting).

playing the beta on PC at the moment. I'm extremely stoked about it.

I'm certainly seeing hit detection issues, not just with me but all players in a match. There are still some things to iron out, but in all I can't agree its WORSE than BFBC 1. Also, I just left a match after 27 kill streak, so maybe I'm just partial toward it right now.

It's no fail, but it doesn't deserve the amount of hype it's getting i guess I'm one of those Cinnamon toast crunch Adults I just don't get it.

Can we get this thread moved to the BC2 forum? It will get a much better denouncing there.

Love the demo, the shooting feels great, using back to mark enemies makes it easier to team up on them and overall just feels awesome to play. Can't wait.

You've just been playing to much modern warfare, you'll get over it.