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Posted by TheAdmin (715 posts) -

Over the last few weeks that Brad N. has been added to the news team, news has been inconsistent, poorly researched, half assed and often many days behind other news sources.   My understanding for why Giant Bomb added Nicholson was so that on days when the team is busy there can be some news articles posted on the homepage. Unfortunately, it seems Nicholson is allowed to post these articles without any review or quality control.

Stating that Nicholson is unprofessional without proper evidence wouldn’t be helpful, so I’d like to give a couple examples:

Starting off the article he admits that he isn’t really a TF2 player and that he isn’t really following the latest updates. That would be fine if that was just his opinion in the comments, but he’s supposed to be writing up what’s going on with the game.

Most of the article was filled with misinformation. His “update” to the news post where he says he “…misunderstood a bit of game jargon” is still not informative beyond that he doesn’t follow the game enough to understand the article he read to post the news story in the first place.

Besides the early and final banter in the article, most of the content that pertains to the news article was copy/pasted from Kotaku. I understand that many pieces of the news piece were quotes, which need to be the same, but there wasn’t any additional information that I couldn’t learn from the Kotaku article. 

These examples are more of the norm with how Nicholson posts, then the odd ones out.  Many of the articles he posts include links to where he got his information – Kotaku, Joystiq, and others. While this is fine and I’m glad he could point to his sources, I’d rather just go there and read it myself, which is something I often do.

The reason I wanted to point these out is that I’d rather have no news, and only hear from the Giant Bomb team when they have something interesting to say, then this style of news. I think many would agree that the reason you come to Giant Bomb is not for gaming news per se, but to hear the opinion of Jeff, Brad S. Ryan or Vinny… and get their take on what’s going on in the gaming world. With news that’s being added by another party – you lose that aspect of what made the news they did post, so great.

I’m not really interested in hearing about a new rock band drum set being announced, I already know that’s coming because I read it elsewhere – I want to hear what Ryan or Jeff think about it. That’s what makes Giant Bomb so great – the site is personality driven. 

#1 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

No one is forcing you to read them

#2 Posted by Hitchenson (4682 posts) -

Giant Bomb doesn't strike me as "professional", I don't say that in a bad way, I say that in the best of ways.

#3 Posted by iAmJohn (6134 posts) -
@99X said:
" I’m not really interested in hearing about a new rock band drum set being announced, I already know that’s coming because I read it elsewhere  "
It's almost like that's exactly why they have the new news guys - because they can't or don't want to comment on every news story but still want to deliver a good news section.
#4 Posted by papercut (3532 posts) -

You know, it used to be hip to rip on Brad NIcholson (or al brads in general) but now it's just getting old.

#5 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

If you do not wanna read it. Why don't you start your own site and make your own news?

#6 Posted by TheAdmin (715 posts) -
@iAmJohn said:
" @99X said:
" I’m not really interested in hearing about a new rock band drum set being announced, I already know that’s coming because I read it elsewhere  "
It's almost like that's exactly why they have the new news guys - because they can't or don't want to comment on every news story but still want to deliver a good news section. "
The problem is that he's not doing the research or spending the time to make the news interesting, or for that matter, accurate. 
#7 Posted by Aaox (1657 posts) -

I read the news for what it is, not for the people who write it, and I personally find Brad's style of writing entertaining. Also, 
@The_Laughing_Man said:

" No one is forcing you to read them "
#8 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@99X said:
" @iAmJohn said:
" @99X said:
" I’m not really interested in hearing about a new rock band drum set being announced, I already know that’s coming because I read it elsewhere  "
It's almost like that's exactly why they have the new news guys - because they can't or don't want to comment on every news story but still want to deliver a good news section. "
The problem is that he's not doing the research or spending the time to make the news interesting, or for that matter, accurate.  "
So hes is unprofessional because hes not a nut for TF2? 
#9 Posted by Meteora (5787 posts) -
@The_Laughing_Man said:
" No one is forcing you to read them "
No, he doesn't. Just to make sure however, this isn't nearly the same case as how people whine about how much news there is on Giantbomb; rather that the quality control and consistency isn't the same as before. I've always been keen about hearing the crew's thoughts and opinions on games, but ever since Brad Nicholson was brought in that was entirely changed. Not to say that he should be laid off or anything, but he needs to up his game. I'm assuming that he's an interim and that things will eventually improve as he grows in confidence. 
 
At least it is a bit better to read news off of Giantbomb than Gamespot's monologue news.
#10 Posted by TheAdmin (715 posts) -

It seems the people in here are spending more time defending Brad N. then actually reading my blog post. 

#11 Posted by zander1123 (95 posts) -

While I completely agree with you, we have to resign ourselves to putting up with his sub-par writing skills for awhile. If you ever read destructoid pre 3 months ago you will see a lot of his posts are of the same quality. I have just decided to not even give the news story a page view unless I see that isn't penned by Brad N. 

#12 Posted by Milkman (17202 posts) -

Yep because this website is epitome of professionalism. 
 
 

#13 Posted by JeffGoldblum (3710 posts) -

The quality is fine. Stop complaining about nothing.

#14 Posted by Kahoona (223 posts) -

Man, you guys will hate him for ANYTHING.

#15 Edited by Jeust (10823 posts) -
@Hitchenson said:

" Giant Bomb doesn't strike me as "professional", I don't say that in a bad way, I say that in the best of ways. "

@The_Laughing_Man said:

" No one is forcing you to read them "

I agree with both of these statements. If you're looking for professionalism you're looking in the wrong place. 
#16 Posted by iAmJohn (6134 posts) -
@99X said:
" It seems the people in here are spending more time defending Brad N. then actually reading my blog post.  "

#17 Posted by TotalEklypse (1000 posts) -

reporting is just that. you report on something u are more than likely told to report on in most cases by higher ups. i doubt the guys who get sent to darfur or iraq were nuts for those either. just saying. i like that he is honest that he isnt the most well versed in a topic and pushes on all the same with everything he has to work with.. if you wana see examples of bad journalism go to IGN. those fuckers are clueless and full of editorial tripe.

#18 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

You could just go to gamespot. 

#19 Posted by TheAdmin (715 posts) -
@The_Laughing_Man said:
" @99X said:
" @iAmJohn said:
" @99X said:
" I’m not really interested in hearing about a new rock band drum set being announced, I already know that’s coming because I read it elsewhere  "
It's almost like that's exactly why they have the new news guys - because they can't or don't want to comment on every news story but still want to deliver a good news section. "
The problem is that he's not doing the research or spending the time to make the news interesting, or for that matter, accurate.  "
So hes is unprofessional because hes not a nut for TF2?  "
Absolutely not.  I'm saying even if he doesn't like TF2 - he's reporting on it - so he should get the facts correct.  I'm saying there should be a review process for accuracy - especially since he gets his new sources from other gaming news sites. 
#20 Posted by AgentJ (8778 posts) -
@99X: Do you really expect everyone on staff to play every game that comes out? Granted, Team Fortress 2 was a big one, but not every player plays every game. Even the regular staff reports on games they know nothing about from time to time. Thats sort of how journalism goes. You can read about China before writing an article on their new nuclear pact, but are you really going to travel to the country every time you need 500 words?
As for the Call of Duty MMO bit, whatever. It's a shame that there wasn't much new information, but hey, if thats the only info available, there's not much a blogger can do about it. Writers can only report on what they know. 
I don't really pay attention to the news releases myself, but I'm not going to fault this guy for doing his job, and correctly I might add.
#21 Posted by LiquidPrince (16124 posts) -
@99X said:
" It seems the people in here are spending more time defending Brad N. then actually reading my blog post.  "
I read your blog post, and I still disagree with you. Stop bashing on Brad. He's doing what he can, and he gets some news discussion rolling on slow days. He isn't even that bad a writer. I'm tired of everyone complaining. If the GB5 are fine with him, then that's enough for me.
#22 Posted by TheAdmin (715 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @Hitchenson said:

" Giant Bomb doesn't strike me as "professional", I don't say that in a bad way, I say that in the best of ways. "

@The_Laughing_Man said:

" No one is forcing you to read them "

I agree with both of these statements. If you're looking for professionalism you're looking in the wrong place.  "
I'm saying I'm looking for accurate information.  Apparently you guys are completely fine with misinformation and sloppy writing.  Theres a difference between having a laid back style of reporting and then just being lazy.  
#23 Posted by ectoplasma (983 posts) -

Your English is terrible.

#24 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

What you seem to be saying is that he lacks personality, not that he's unprofessional.

#25 Edited by teh_pwnzorer (1482 posts) -
@The_Laughing_Man said:

" No one is forcing you to read them "

No one is forcing you to read these posts.  I didn't read it, yet. :)
#26 Edited by Jeust (10823 posts) -
@99X said:

" @Jeust said:

" @Hitchenson said:

" Giant Bomb doesn't strike me as "professional", I don't say that in a bad way, I say that in the best of ways. "

@The_Laughing_Man said:

" No one is forcing you to read them "

I agree with both of these statements. If you're looking for professionalism you're looking in the wrong place.  "
I'm saying I'm looking for accurate information.  Apparently you guys are completely fine with misinformation and sloppy writing.  Theres a difference between having a laid back style of reporting and then just being lazy.   "
But being unprofessional is all about misinformation and sloppy writing. I'm not looking in Gianbomb to accurate information or precise writting, as it isn't the best place for that. Giantbomb is not about a professional posture.  
 
For example the Quick Looks are generally more about their like or dislike about the game, than actually being worth the buy.  
 
This isn't a professional website. 
#27 Posted by TheAdmin (715 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:
" What you seem to be saying is that he lacks personality, not that he's unprofessional. "
No. He adds plenty of personality... what I'm saying is his news is poorly researched and half assed, and often days late.  I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'm not attacking Brad N. 
#28 Posted by Colin (707 posts) -

I don't mind his work but this article " Yes, Kinect Will Be Useable While You're Sitting ", really just the first paragraph was just ignorant.
#29 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -

i fucking HATE how everyone is mistaking what you're saying for another "THE NEW BRAD BRINGS LAME CHANGEZ" rant.. god the community can be fucking bag heads sometimes.. 
 
I actually read your post, and you make valid points. Brad N's shit seems unnecessary and only kills the buzz im having while surfing GB and expecting the usual staff-driven GB articles. 
 
P.S. i used to defend him at first, and told people to give him a chance and that he's doing a good job, but over time i could see that he's actually a fifth wheel news spammer

#30 Posted by MetalGearSunny (6999 posts) -

If you don't care about the news on Giantbomb in the first place then why are you complaining?

#31 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -
@99X: 
 
Yea, half-assed as in "copy and pasted", meaning there's a lack of personality.
#32 Posted by chogi (555 posts) -

brad will beat you up.

#33 Posted by LiquidPrince (16124 posts) -

I also find that the people saying this site isn't professional are wrong. Just because it's laid back and opinionated, doesn't make it unprofessional. It just means that these guys don't have to deal with all that corporate bullshit other websites do.

#34 Posted by W0lfbl1tzers (1789 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:
" What you seem to be saying is that he lacks personality, not that he's unprofessional. "
I think it's not the personality he wants. Would you really call Kotaku professional over BN? 
 
Yes he is posting news from other sites but many people have stated, in many other threads, Giant Bomb is the only gaming site they go to. They like that they don't have to run around the internet for news. I stopped visiting Joystiq as frequently as I used to because of the news posted here. Don't like it? Don't read it and continue scouring the web. It doesn't take anything away from the site.
#35 Posted by Manhattan_Project (2169 posts) -

He works with what he has and makes it entertaining. I don't see anything wrong with that.

#36 Edited by Dany (7887 posts) -

News need to be posted, both Matt and Brad do that now. But yes, they could use some work on making stuff more they own while still crediting other sites.

#37 Posted by Glak (613 posts) -

Seriously, do we have to have one of these threads everyday?
People complained when there wasn't enough news, and now they're complaining there's too much
Plus it's not like his articles are making the Staff's writing any worse, so just ignore it if you hate it so much

#38 Posted by Toms115 (2316 posts) -

his articles are fine and he has even managed to scrape a laugh or two out of me. it's news articles, what do you want, tolkien?

#39 Posted by Landon (4164 posts) -

I'll step up and say I agree with you, and people who say that nothing is different are kidding themselves. I can tell when its a Jeff Gerstmann article. I know when Ryan Davis is writing about something. They don't just report the news, they put their personalities on paper and make something I don't care about (rap stars leanding their voice to Gears3) seem interesting and something I'm glad I am apart of. What has Brad N done since he's got here? Report the news. I'm sure any person on Giant Bomb who has passed a basic writing class could do his job. When there are full articles dedicated to a new DSi color coming out, I yawn and immediately know who's putting what on the front page. Whiskey Media is a place of personality. A few months back, I had no idea who Will Smith is, but I love that guy now. Who is Brad N?

#40 Posted by fwylo (3556 posts) -

LOL WHY U MAD THO?

#41 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

Hooray. Another person complaining about news on a video game site because "I can go to another site for that." How about you get it through your heads that some of us don't visit other sites.

#42 Posted by RankRabbit (394 posts) -

I never look at his posts because every other website posts it first, shame on me for going to other gaming websites.

#43 Posted by BergDK (270 posts) -

I don't come to giantbomb to read news, there are plenty of good sites that specialize in news, which you have to use anyway if you want to all the news.

I just want a customizable site where the original content (videos, podcasts etc.) is the only thing I see in the frontpage news feed.

#44 Posted by JoelTGM (5596 posts) -

Wow, just shutup already with this crap.  He posts gaming news here.  Some of you will cry about the smallest things.

#45 Edited by ProfessorEss (7472 posts) -

Who cares.
 
The core Bomb crew aren't always the most professional or well-researched guys either, they do their fair-share of shootin' from the hip and making unsubstantiated claims too.
 
But I guess cause they're "cool" it's cool yeah?

#46 Posted by Laksa (240 posts) -
@99X said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" What you seem to be saying is that he lacks personality, not that he's unprofessional. "
No. He adds plenty of personality... what I'm saying is his news is poorly researched and half assed, and often days late.  I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'm not attacking Brad N.  "
i agree with you 99x, there seems to be a half hearted approach to his news posts. i like to click on every post by the staff on the front page to show support, but not  posts of this standard.Hopefully this is just a settling in  period and he improves.
#47 Posted by Jimbo (9937 posts) -

I have enjoyed his Q&A articles a lot.
 
You aren't wrong about a lot of the news posts - and I've even felt like I've needed to 'correct' these articles in the comment thread on more than one occasion, which is obviously something a reader shouldn't be needing to do, even on a game site (if you're gonna present news then run it properly and fact check it) - but I think you're probably being unfair with where you're laying the blame.  The guy is clearly only doing the job he has been employed to do, and his articles should probably be going in front of another pair of eyes before hitting the front page anyway.  
 
The plan with Giant Bomb may have been to 'do things differently' and they have stuck to that for the most part, but 'Phase Two' is where shit gets serious, and here in the real world, hits is still hits.  I think if we want the 'authentic' Giant Bomb content to stick around, we need to accept that the slightly more traditional (maybe even 'cynical') side of games media needs to be there to support it.  The guy is essentially doing the shit work so that the others can flourish.  He has never been properly introduced to the community and it's almost like he's there to take flak whilst GB transitions to being a proper business.  I don't think describing him as unprofessional is warranted or fair at all.

#48 Posted by VWGTI (1919 posts) -

Brad is a pretty swell guy who doesn't afraid of anything.

#49 Edited by TheCreamFilling (1229 posts) -

You're complaining that everyone else isn't the same as you. I don't scour other sites for news, Giant Bomb and the occasional 1UP is all I read, so it doesn't bother me if a news story is taken from another site. 

#50 Posted by Johnny5 (1355 posts) -

So what, when theres an Earthquake in China, when other news stations do the story as well do you go all "bitch I can see that same story on every other news station!" 
 
Not to mention Kotaku is an aggregate itself anyway... 
 
I think its valid to complain if you feel its bad, saying "oh you can just not read it" doesnt make the site any better if it really is shit though. However as you have noticed, an air of professionalism is not the main approach to the reporting on this website, and stories where hes merely reporting seem fine to me, albeit ordinary. He doesnt need to get some hot scoop to report it, and it gives us a place to discuss it as a community on the fly. (true you can do this on a forum but its hardly efficient)