Can a game be "so bad it's good?"

I don't know if it's a relatively new trend, but the consumption of media that's "so bad it's good," especially movies, has become more popular. With obvious examples being films like "The Room" or "Troll 2," you can find more of a culture that appreciates good bad movies. You see this with not only movies, but television and to a lesser extent music. This got me thinking, can a video game be absolutely terrible, but enjoyable at the same time?
 
Now, I know that everyone's immediate response would be

DEADLY PREMONITION

I don't know if it's a relatively new trend, but the consumption of media that's "so bad it's good," especially movies, has become more popular. With obvious examples being films like "The Room" or "Troll 2," you can find more of a culture that appreciates good bad movies. You see this with not only movies, but television and to a lesser extent music. This got me thinking, can a video game be absolutely terrible, but enjoyable at the same time?
 
Now, I know that everyone's immediate response would be

DEADLY PREMONITION

Play naughty bear, you'll get your answer

For me there is no such game.

I feel like its just parts of the game that are so good it makes you put up with the bad parts. 
  
Deadly Premonition: Crazy wild story and addictive characters overpower the shitty gameplay mechanics and things like that.

No, that's a logical fallacy. People who would say "This game is so bad, it's good", would generally define games that have redeeming aspects but many negative ones that way.

" No, that's a logical fallacy. "

lol @    Press X to be torn apart by Lisa

I'd like to submit a Genesis game called "Fun 'N' Games" as a game that's so bad it's good. Parts of that game are effing nuts. 
 
Your conclusion is wrong! :P

You mentioned "The Room". You automatically win.
 
I have yet to play any games like this. Then and again, I haven't played Hour of Victory or Big Rigs yet.

" You mentioned "The Room". You automatically win.  I have yet to play any games like this. Then and again, I haven't played Hour of Victory or Big Rigs yet. "

" @FluxWaveZ said:

" No, that's a logical fallacy. "

no it isn't. "

There was a game called "Zombies ate my Neighbors" on the snes. It could be found in bargain bins everywhere for under $10. Game was a blast but kinda bad at the same time. Same with another game I picked up out the same bargain bin called Total Carnage.

" There was a game called "Zombies ate my Neighbors" on the snes. It could be found in bargain bins everywhere for under $10. Game was a blast but kinda bad at the same time. Same with another game I picked up out the same bargain bin called Total Carnage. "

" @FluxWaveZ:  Just like you can go south so far that you come out from the north. It's all a matter of perspective. "

Bad games can have a charm that makes them enjoyable, with the examples that jump to mind being Earth Defence Force 2017 and Deadly Premonition, but that doesn't make them good.

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Now the question is "why can't a game be so bad it's good?" I feel like it comes down to a few reasons.
 1) You have to play the game. Imagine you had to interact and "play" The Room." 
 

" @Pinworm45 said:

" @FluxWaveZ said:

" No, that's a logical fallacy. "

no it isn't. "

How is it not? How does it make sense to say something like "This is so disgusting, it's good" or "This is so bad, it's good"? It makes no logical sense. "

" Yes it does. It's also not a logical fallacy. If you're going to use terms you see smart people using, at least understand them. Or is that just a strawman? lol.. "

i don't see how your points connect to your conclusion at all. but i guess i agree in a way, and maybe that "so bad it's good" is really just a terrible statement. i think "so bad, but good" makes a lot more sense, at least when it comes to deadly premonition, but i don't think i've seen any of the movies you referenced, apart from a couple scenes from troll 2 which are hilarious because they are so bad. so now that i think about it, i think i agree with you, even though i dont understand why the hell you've listed those "4 reasons"

" @Pinworm45 said:

" @FluxWaveZ said:

" No, that's a logical fallacy. "

no it isn't. "

How is it not? How does it make sense to say something like "This is so disgusting, it's good" or "This is so bad, it's good"? It makes no logical sense. "

deadliest warrior 
YES

no

The Room is terrible. I hate it when people say it's so bad it's good, because that movie is just bad. Calling it a train-wreck is an insult to train-wrecks. 
 
Also, Deadly Premonition was pretty awesome, both for the great story, and because the rest of it was bad enough to be laughable. 

No, because bad gameplay is inexcusable.   
 
It's not like a movie where you can just sit back and take it in.  You literally have to wrestle and concentrate with bad controls in a game.

Yes. My avatar is one. Its absurdly stupid and badly made, but its fun.

 So I guess my conclusion is that games can't be so bad they are good. They can be bad, or good, or anywhere in between.    

I like to play the demos for Japanese dating sims that I barely understand. Those are pretty bad, but I also really enjoy not really knowing what is going on. 
 
I think this qualifies.

  Imagine you had to interact and "play" The Room.   

50 Cent Blood on the Sand is a way better example. Oh and some may even say that the controls are even better than Deadly Premonition :X 
 
*runs away before white knights appear

Sure, why not? To say something is so bad it's good is essentially to say that the consequences of the badness are enjoyable.

I don't think so; broken mechanics are just frustrating.
 
I do however think cutscenes, VO and dialogue can definitely be so bad they get good... Just Cause 2's a great example.

" 50 Cent Blood on the Sand is a way better example. Oh and some may even say that the controls are even better than Deadly Premonition :X  *runs away before white knights appear "

" @GlenTennis

  Imagine you had to interact and "play" The Room.   

ahem: 
 
 http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/547307    see for yourself! As far as I'm concerned, it's an essential companion piece to the movie. "

 I had fun playing games like Darkest of Days and Rogue Warrior because they were so fucking broken and stupid. I have no problem applying the MST3K approach to gaming.

"I'd say that Heavy Rain qualifies. It has awful voice acting, terrible writing, huge plot holes, tedious gameplay, major pacing issues, creepy and and lifeless character models, yet it's gripping in its own way. The faux accents are hilarious at times, and the whole "Press X to Jason" thing is completely meme-worthy. "

" No, that's a logical fallacy. People who would say "This game is so bad, it's good", would generally define games that have redeeming aspects but many negative ones that way. "

" I'd say that Heavy Rain qualifies. It has awful voice acting, terrible writing, huge plot holes, tedious gameplay, major pacing issues, creepy and and lifeless character models, yet it's gripping in its own way. The faux accents are hilarious at times, and the whole "Press X to Jason" thing is completely meme-worthy. "

No. If something is bad, then it is bad. If you think a game is "soo bad" but yet you find some redeeming qualities about it that you enjoy, then said game is actually "good" in the first place. 

Bad game = Bad game
Campy game = Guilty pleasure

In a word: Yes.

I think what's meant by the term is - a game that's amusing or perhaps, charming because of how poor quality it is. Big Rigs is an obvious example, if the game actually worked properly, then it would just be a bland racing game; however, the game is completely broken, which means you can do all sorts of wacky/crazy things, like flying through the sky.

Also.

No, but a movie can. 
 
It's as simply as that.

"  I had fun playing games like Darkest of Days and Rogue Warrior because they were so fucking broken and stupid. I have no problem applying the MST3K approach to gaming. "

" I think what's meant by the term is - a game that's amusing or perhaps, charming because of how poor quality it is. Big Rigs is an obvious example, if the game actually worked properly, then it would just be a bland racing game; however, the game is completely broken, which means you can do all sorts of wacky/crazy things, like flying through the sky.

Also. "

Noby Noby Boy. 
 
It's so bad... It sorta becomes good. 
 
If you can call it a 'game' anyways.

Driver 3. Also called Driv3r, is a game that suck ass, mostly because of all the bugs, but that's also the charm of it. Pop in the game and laugh because of all the "Wtf-moments" in the game.

 @Skytylz said:

" @carlthenimrod said:

"  I had fun playing games like Darkest of Days and Rogue Warrior because they were so fucking broken and stupid. I have no problem applying the MST3K approach to gaming. "

You had fun, that doesn't mean they're good.   "

Very rarely have I seen this type of thing happen. In fact, I've only seen it, like, once: Captain Novolin. It's a game that's so stupid and poorly executed that it's hard not to find yourself laughing at the fuck up whenever you see it.