Politics Dave
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What does "forcing" a belief on you mean?
That someone uses physical means on another person in any way that isn't self defense, period. a government sets a law, a law is then enforced, by means of a gun or jail. I'm not saying every law is wrong, only those that restrain personal choice. Force can be initiated by an individual or a group as well.
What if you were a black man living in a town and all businesses (all privately owned) decided to not serve you because you were black?
I'd move into a town that did, you'd almost never see this because businesses rely on money, not race, to sustain and profit. Look at jewish, irish, asian, and italian communities of the early 20th century who were discriminated on and then joined together and thrived. They basically said fuck you if you don't want my money, I'll build something of my own thats better and did.
What about your rights to own land (life, liberty, and property) wherever you want?
thats my point. happiness is included as well. people have a right to live wherever they want. a government can't force an owner of one piece of land to sell specifically to another though, thats the choice of the person holding the property at present. you hardly ever see people refusing another persons money because of race.
Isn't that the business owners forcing their beliefs on you, but yet they're still on their own property?
They aren't forcing me to shop there. They aren't changing what i believe. No one put a gun to my head as opposed to the force i described above. The government on the other hand forces me into jail if i want to do cocaine or prostitute myself, or have a bar that even has a seperate room for smokers (welcome to cali). All these are things that effect no one but that person and their customers who freely choose to do so. If I don't want to eat while other people are smoking I'll go to a resturant that doesn't have that room. You seem to assume that every resturant owner likes smoke.
Does equality really not matter to you as long as you're the one not being oppressed?
Equality means EVERYONE is not oppressed. I want perfect equality, meaning that the government doesn't look at a man as disabled and pass specific laws for him, but looks at everyone as an equal man and provides them all with the same laws. The only way to do that is to provide supreme liberty through lassiez faire capitalism. Where everyone has an equal shot at doing their own thing successfully. Disabled people are not being oppressed by the government, by the public, or by me the taxpayer when no ramp exists on private property. They have a problem with a private business and should resolve that matter with them or not do business with them. The government should have no say in that. We shouldn't dish out our tax funds by order of need, but in order of individual ability. If we tried to account for every group we would have no money left to use on the services that ALL people use (roads, defense..etc)
MLK...he was trying to get the government to pass civil rights legislation!
You are right, on the public sector, which i totally agree with obviously. Thankfully he succeeded. If you are a taxpayer, despite your race, creed, whatever, you damn well better be treated exactly the same when you walk in a library or get on a bus which runs on your own tax funds. Thank you MLK for showing the meaning of the declaration of independence and constitution to the government, that equality is a right of a citizen within his public society. As for ghandi, the man walked to the sea and made salt because the government said no private individual could do so.
In fact, he was directly opposed to letting people decide who they want to serve based on ethnicity, public or private!
He never tried to push laws on the private sector. He did speak against such discrimination and thought it should be carried forth in any situation public or private, i agree, but thats just an opinion and i wouldn't push my practice on someone else even though I completely agree with him and practice it personally.
Well, one day I hope you're discriminated against (even on someone's private land) because only then will you understand (ok no I don't really hope you're discriminated against, and if you ever are you'll find out why).
I don't think there is one person or group on the earth that isn't discriminated from somewhere or something. An 18 year old that is able to vote and kill people in a foreign war for his country but is not old enough to drink(says who?) by the government is discriminated against and worse, such laws apply to everyone and not just the hick on the farm. Also, try walking around with long blue hair, or living in Japan for a year. Believe me, I've dealt with it, but I'm not gonna get the police on sue a person just because that person doesn't like me or who I am. Thats the whole point of being an individual, choice.
You seem to be thinking about some hick in Backwater, USA doing whatever he wants on his militia ranch because it'll never affect you.
2nd ammendment. And I of course oppose use of force, correct? Don't you think that would make any kind of violence illegal? If they want to sit and polish their guns fine, just don't use um on me or anyone else for any other use but self defense. If people want to be wackos, be wackos, just do it in your own backyard.
And I assure you that if people thought like me, we'd drink and play violent video games. I think like I do and I do these things, so obviously if everyone thought like I do, we'd still do these things.
Look at australia, look at germany. Censorship is alive and well. Both would walk with open arms into such disabled legislation. The fact is you can't just trade little bits of security for freedom. Imagine if senator lieberman has his way?
Believe it or not, there is actually area between the extremes of no government interference and total government control.
You are absolutely right, we live in it currently. I love this country and think it provides more freedom that anyplace else, thats why I live here. Then again, does that mean i shouldn't strive for an ideal, and try to push my country even farther towards pure freedom? Look at our president who proclaims "these terrorists are attacking us because of our freedom". Bullshit, they are attacking us because we have military bases in their lands and are suppressing others at our own cost. You don't sacrifice one person for anothers benifit, just like you don't sacrifice a business' profit over a disabled persons ramp. It's wrong in any way to force people to practice your beliefs, no matter how righteous they are. If the US treated its citizens like it does foreign countries, we would all revolt. Keeping the peace is all well and fine, but subjegating other people at the expense of peace is not.
In the end I find it funny how people group themselves into parties. look at our political system. two main parites. people join them not neccessarily because they agree with their party, but because they hate the other one. its so silly. there aren't two ways to live, there shouldn't be parties at all, just people. their shouldnt be disabled people, black people, asian people, mentally retarded people, republican people....just people man. Never comprimise freedom for anyone or anything. 
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