I just listened to the recently released edition of the distributed failure podcast which you can listen to at this url
http://www.cyberears.com/cybrss/6977.mp3
and I was shocked by what I heard one of the hosts say. Around a third of the way through the podcast they were discussing gears of war 2 and one guy said these words "yeah, I was wanting to get all the maps but microsoft has gotta be a jewish on me." are you serious!!!!!!? Please tell me I heard wrong because if that's what he said I think he should appologize to the community for this.
Distributed Failure Antisemitism
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" @Lifestrike: My friends and I always say stuff is "Jewish". A lot of people do it, not just them. I see that you are not a fan of that and that's cool. "Yeah you're right I'm not a fan of it but maybe that's cause I'm Jewish right?! Such a Jewish thing to complain like this.
" @VisariLoyalist: Well, probably more people say "God Damnit" or "Jesus Christ" more then "that's Jewish". "that is so not relevant to this discussion christians say god damnit and jesus christ I gaurantee you any self respecting jew would not go around saying "that's so jewish" whenever someone tried to rip someone off.
" You know who I blame for their anti-Semitic remarks? The Jews. "I blame you, you're the problem
the thing I'm most worried about is how much these sort of stinger words get used in our modern lexicon, you might think it's just a phrase but it's rooted in deep hatred the likes of which kills people so It should not be used in this way that is the point I'm trying to get accross
Using "jew" as a pejorative merely stems from ignorance of the Jews as a people. No, not just the "chosen people" dogma, but their history. Because of this, which has been ingrained for centuries, Western culture generally sees it more acceptable to demean Jews than Blacks, Asians and other races/creeds.
Though as a Jew, I'm not offended by it. I hear it a lot, so it's not worth getting angry over. It is, however, somewhat disheartening to listen to the garbage that people accept as fact about the Jews (not from this podcast, but from people in real life and other various sources).
" Using "jew" as a pejorative merely stems from ignorance of the Jews as a people. No, not just the "chosen people" dogma, but their history. Because of this, Western culture generally sees it more acceptable to demean Jews than Blacks, Asians and other races/creeds. Though as a Jew, I'm not offended by it. I hear it a lot, so it's not worth getting angry over. It is, however, somewhat disheartening to listen to the garbage that people accept as fact about the Jews (not from this podcast, but from people in real life and other various sources). "I'm jewish too and I just don't like how we are willing to accept that sort of thing in this age.
" You know Visari is space Hitler? Right? "you know he's a fictional character right? Dumbasss
what surprises me is how it surprises you. Did you really think that somehow people are better in this day and age than they were before. Hell no.
" @Cube said:I don't give a shit what religion you believe in. I'm not macho, just a realist. People are going to say seemingly insulting things. This isn't the first time you've heard it and it's not the last. Get over it, hence "grow a pair"." @VisariLoyalist said:no no no see it's very simple you said "grow a pair" which mean you're a macho and I think you can infer why I called you a kkk member "" @Cube said:This is literally the stupidest thing anyone on these forums has said to me. Congratulations, you fucking idiot. "" How about instead, you grow a pair? "what are you some kinda macho kkk member? "
Nothing to do with the KKK, you ass.
" @VisariLoyalist said:I'm not a troll, JAYGE." @Cube said:Cube is one of the more stupid trolls on the forum. He has an awesome GTO avatar though, props. "" @VisariLoyalist said:no no no see it's very simple you said "grow a pair" which mean you're a macho and I think you can infer why I called you a kkk member "" @Cube said:This is literally the stupidest thing anyone on these forums has said to me. Congratulations, you fucking idiot. "" How about instead, you grow a pair? "what are you some kinda macho kkk member? "
:'(
" @VisariLoyalist said:"seemingly insulting" that's an interesting pair of words, I think its more like obscenely insulting" @Cube said:I don't give a shit what religion you believe in. I'm not macho, just a realist. People are going to say seemingly insulting things. This isn't the first time you've heard it and it's not the last. Get over it, hence "grow a pair". Nothing to do with the KKK, you ass. "" @VisariLoyalist said:no no no see it's very simple you said "grow a pair" which mean you're a macho and I think you can infer why I called you a kkk member "" @Cube said:This is literally the stupidest thing anyone on these forums has said to me. Congratulations, you fucking idiot. "" How about instead, you grow a pair? "what are you some kinda macho kkk member? "
" Well, you can always get over it. "That's your response to dangerous ignorance, get over it, okay.
You can complain about it all you like but don't go starting a war over it, that would be playing right into Mel Gibson's hands.
allright guys I'm goin to bed just a failed attempt to get a general concensus about the immorality of saying "microsoft had to go be a jewish on me". Instead we had defensive cross accusation and childish teasing.
With all these goyishe kops around it's no wonder.
Steven for example has a wicked goyishe kop, but he's still a good guy.
I wish we could get to a point where people didn't feel the need to call other people "niggers, fags, and jews" on the internet. I've quit many a game mid-match because I just couldn't stand to listen to another ignorant fool shout racial and sexual epithets over a cheap microphone their mother bought them.
" @JJOR64 said:I have. Do I win a prize?" @VisariLoyalist: Well, probably more people say "God Damnit" or "Jesus Christ" more then "that's Jewish". "that is so not relevant to this discussion christians say god damnit and jesus christ I gaurantee you any self respecting jew would not go around saying "that's so jewish" whenever someone tried to rip someone off. "
This is no place to complain. DF is not part of GB. You should send a message to its creators to complain.
I know Jewish people who make fun of others by calling them Jews. It creates like a paradox and the world usually explodes... At least in my mind.
" @ryanwho: I'm sorry that second sentence didn't make much sense to me. "Your complaint is so completely trivial. Your grandparents had to deal with things like not being allowed into certain restaurants. Stop being a baby, is my suggestion, and find a real cause.
Is this thread really happening? By the title I was expecting a legitimately offensive remark about Jews, not some off color joke that to anyone with half a brain realizes is a joke. No one would seriously associate being stingy with being Jewish but the over usage of that phrasing means they are seriously racist or it's a joke. I have a feeling it's a joke.
Can anyone else smell too much self-righteousness in the room?
Um, you'd be surprised at how many people actually do. I doubt the podcast guy is, though.No one would seriously associate being stingy with being Jewish
" @JJOR64 said:You need to listen to the CAGcast from CheapAssGamer.com. It's hosted by two men of Jewish faith who constantly use those terms and other similar ones when talking about stuff. I think it's a mistake to believe that people of the faith would not use derogatory language among themselves because they feel they can. It's the same reason why African Americans use language that is culturally relevent to them, but is also thought to be discriminatory when used by other people even when not referring to blacks. Having said that let me make one thing clear. I abhore the use of such language even when used within the culture it is meant to degrade. I do not believe in the excuse that "using it makes it our own." All it does is permit other cultures to use shameful language because the people it's meant to describe are using it, and therefore, since they don't seem to have a problem with it, it must be okay." @VisariLoyalist: Well, probably more people say "God Damnit" or "Jesus Christ" more then "that's Jewish". "that is so not relevant to this discussion christians say god damnit and jesus christ I gaurantee you any self respecting jew would not go around saying "that's so jewish" whenever someone tried to rip someone off. "
" Is this thread really happening? By the title I was expecting a legitimately offensive remark about Jews, not some off color joke that to anyone with half a brain realizes is a joke. No one would seriously associate being stingy with being Jewish but the over usage of that phrasing means they are seriously racist or it's a joke. I have a feeling it's a joke. Can anyone else smell too much self-righteousness in the room? "When's the last time you went outside, sport?
" @JJOR64 said:First of all, this is a bit of an over-reaction. Youre argument is also flawed by the sweeping generalisations youre make right there - I have a jewish friend who was said stuff similar to this, plust what JJOR64 said was completely valid. You have every right to be offended (you may even have a fair complaint), but youre unlikely to win any support with most people here..." @VisariLoyalist: Well, probably more people say "God Damnit" or "Jesus Christ" more then "that's Jewish". "that is so not relevant to this discussion christians say god damnit and jesus christ I gaurantee you any self respecting jew would not go around saying "that's so jewish" whenever someone tried to rip someone off. "
Why not take it up with the podcast makers instead of coming here about this? It's as bad as the people who get banned from Gamespot and come here to complain about it. There's lots of other sites I'd love to make a thread trash talking them on here, but that's pointless, dumb, and doesn't help this community.
Anyways, even though it is racist, I think when people use 'jewish' in that way, they're kind of referring to the stereotype of greediness or stinginess.
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