I have a Pioneer PDP-5020FD which is last generation of the Pioneer Kuro line (plasma for anyone still unclear). I had a 46" Sony XBR6 (and a 40" XBR1 before that) but took it back when I caught an unbelievable price on the 50" Kuro just before the discontinuation announcement earlier this year. It's picture blows away every LCD I've ever looked at including LED LCDs and I've had zero problems with it. By the time I'll want to upgrade again, LCD and plasma will be dead technology and I'll have been enjoying a superior television in the mean time.
That's not to say LCDs are bad, but well, I just can't believe some of the FUD in this thread regarding plasmas.
" I assume most people use LCDs because they are more popular, however I decided to buy a 65" Plasma for my room because I like how you get the wider and darker shades of black and stuff. The only minor annoyance though is I am so paranoid about burn in. Luckily almost every game I've played doesn't keep the HUD on forever so as long as its not on the screen 24/7 I have no worries. Also I got the "best" brand of plasma to avoid burn in. I sat in the LBP editor for 4 hours and the thermometer was stuck on my screen for a minute, scared me a bit =PSo do you use LCD or Plasma? Would you get a Plasma if you could? I don't regret it, the picture is very sexy looking :) "
You realize that Plasma is an inefficient dead technology. Even SOny admitted there failure & has stopped production on Plasma tv's to concentrate on LCD & OLED. Good luck when yer tv breaks in 5 years...... "
Explain why contrast ratios and motion handling still remain better. Sure you get several thousand fewer hours, but I'll probably have upgraded my TV long before it breaks (and it's been going strong for four years now). "
That's got jack-shit to do with what he was saying. Nobody (well, nobody frugal) cares about a slightly deeper image to the cost of much faster deaths and a higher likelihood of screen-related complications. "
Well, I cared when I bought mine. Guess the difference was more substantial four years ago though-still no screen issues either so I suppose I'm a lucky exception or Pioneer made some decent sets. "
Key word, frugal. "
To hell with your frugality (yes, I have given up even trying to comment). "
Well my real deciding factor was that I got the TV for $800 off because I was working at the store and got a sweet deal with the manager, I got it cost -40%. So. Sweet. It was a display model =P So it was basically new without a box. Those offers don't come by very often.
Also I got mine from futureshop with a 6 year warrenty, so if I ever break it I get $2500 towards a new TV. So thats sickkk =D
@Oriental_Jams: Haha yeah =P I was working at futureshop at the time and got it $800 off with a full futureshop warrenty which is another $400 =P So it was a sweet deal!
The way faster refresh rate was part of what made me choose plasma, plus the futureshop warrents are fucking expensive but they cover everything and are super hassle free, so since I got mine for free its all good. Also I heard a great trick if you break something on a TV thats not covered, just carefully powersurge the TV because thats usually covered =P
@Xeiphyer: I game on a 42" plasma. When I first got it I was very parinoid about burn in but I noticed if I got any it would go away after a week at most. Now I don't worry about it any more, I just try to be a little cautious.
" 46 inch Panasonic 1080p Plasma. Whoever it is that is Plasma's are an inferior technology should educate themselves on the subject. Plasmas are better in some areas then LCDs and likewise LCDs are better in others. Plasmas last a long time and newer ones do not have an issue with burn in. They offer a more realistic color palette and truer blacks. Besides that they have a 480 mhz refresh rate so when I watch sports I have no motion blur. The top of the line LCDs only have 120 mhz with newer versions having 240 mhz. Basically it comes down to the wants of the consumer. I priced TV's for about 6 months before pulling the trigger. Plasma was the clear choice for me. It is in no way an inferior technology and I suggest anyone that thinks that to go to a Best Buy or high end home theatre store and ask what they suggest. I guarantee they will recommend a plasma. "
I went to a Best Buy and they said LCD. >.>
I use a Samsung 26" LCD now.
When I went to Best Buy I had already looked online at reviews of small HD LCD televisions, and I had decided on the 26" Samsung. My dad came with me, and he asked one of the guys there all sorts of questions, and one of them was which was better for gaming: LCD or Plasma. The guy said that if you plan to only use the television for gaming that we should go with the LCD.
If he had said Plasma, I wouldn't have cared. I was going to get the Samsung LCD and fuck anyone who was going to tell me otherwise.
I used to have a 30" HD CRT but it died so I bought a 32" LCD (Samsung) and it works well. It's crisper than my CRT since it's fill HD and my previous TV was 720p only, so I am happy. As for the depth of the black-tones, I really haven't noticed a difference. On the other hand, on occasion I have seen my LCD have motion trails, and that was a new experience from my CRT. My TV is on a lot so plasma's shorter life-span was very much a factor in my purchasing decision along side price.
Life span on the plasma I have is 100000 hours. Here's a break down, if I was to have the t.v. on for 8 hours a day (which I don't) that would equal 12500 days or a little over 34 years. So I think it's obvious that people can stop talking bullshit about the life cycle of a plasma. Besides, who the hell is going to go a few years anyway without upgrading their set with how quickly technology is improving?
" I use a Sony Bravia LCD 40 or more inches. Try reading about OLED i think they didn't have burn in and could stay on forever "
OLEDs are at least another 2 years from being viable for the mass market in anything bigger than the smallest screens, and even then it will probably be another year or two for it to actually be affordable.
42" LG Scarlett LCD. I'm very proud of my tv. Not because of visual quality. It was first major purchase I have ever made without my parents help. I do all my gaming on it except for PC stuff (I have a decent monitor for that LCD as well). It was a big upgrade over my previous tv (300lbs. toshiba 37" SD TV). That thing was ridiculous to move around and I'm very glad to be rid of it.
24 Inch LG LCD monitor. It was broken when i picked it up for free, opened it, soldered in a new capacitor and viola! Free kick ass monitor...didnt even have to pay for the capacitor!
" I assume most people use LCDs because they are more popular, however I decided to buy a 65" Plasma for my room because I like how you get the wider and darker shades of black and stuff. The only minor annoyance though is I am so paranoid about burn in. Luckily almost every game I've played doesn't keep the HUD on forever so as long as its not on the screen 24/7 I have no worries. Also I got the "best" brand of plasma to avoid burn in. I sat in the LBP editor for 4 hours and the thermometer was stuck on my screen for a minute, scared me a bit =PSo do you use LCD or Plasma? Would you get a Plasma if you could? I don't regret it, the picture is very sexy looking :) "
Yeah i just ordered a LG 50" Plasma, got it a couple of days ago, also posted a pic of it here on GB. But i must say having been used to a Samsung LCD screen, i´m having a hard time adjusting and liking my new Plasma tv.
I really don´t like the glass screen, so many reflections. You cant have sun shining in, or have a bright light behind you.
And like you, i had some issues with minor burn in, i was on my PS3 configuring my net, and for the short period i was on there, the numbers stuck. Not much and not anything the anti burn in thing didn't remove after i ran it from the settings menu. But still i´m almost afraid to play on it.
So i have decided that if i haven't gotten used to it by the end of the weekend i will ship it back, it has a 14 day return policy where i can get my money back. And i might just end up doing that, and getting me a newer LCD instead.
@pornstorestiffi: Yeah, Ive gotten used to it now =P The image of stuff on the screen goes away after a bit, you can only get burn in if you leave a still image on it for a day or 2 straight. My sister left rock band 2 on my TV for 6 hours while I was out and I was super pissed. but it went away after 15 minutes or so of watching tv.
My basement is dark and has 2 tiny ass windows with a fence infront of them, so I don't get much light into my room so the reflection isn't an issue for me but I know if I play games in the morning I can see my windows clearly in the reflection =P Sorta used to that just from growing up with older tvs and always having the window reflection on them.
Also I was going to buy a 6.1 surround sound klipsch speaker setup for my basement, the top of the line $4000 one. But I was only working seasonal at futureshop and didn't have the cash at the time to buy it all. But damn! the markup on speakers is insane! I was going to get the whole bundle for $1100. Thats cost+10%. Pretty crazy =P I did manage to get one of those $160 monster HD cables with the lifetime warrenty thing for $30 though =P
So yeah.. I have a $600 sub I got for $100 sitting in my basement in a box because I don't have the other speakers =P
Thats pretty cool. I´m relieved to hear that the stuck images goes away so fast. Maybe i just need to spend some more time with it, to really appreciate it.
@pornstorestiffi: If you can't use it in a low-light setting then you may not want to bother since the glare issue will not go away. However, the temporary burn-in shouldn't be as much of an issue after the first 100 hours or so since the phosphors should have sufficiently cooled by then. Also, make sure you calibrate it so it's not running brighter than needed; of course the other calibration settings are important too.
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