Over the past couple years, I've noticed a huge trend in gaming sites (other than Giantbomb) using horrible grammar, and spelling things totally wrong. An excerpt from a recent Gamespot article published todayreads " usually when they're prefer to be doing something else.", and then goes on to say that Civ players would rather nuke things the whole game instead of actually playing. I'm not sure if it's just me, but it totally throws the credibility of an article or review out the window for me. How do you guys feel about that kind of stuff?
Does grammar and spelling matter to you in a review?
I can let small grammar mistakes go, but if the whole review seems like it was written by a 12 year old, my credibility for that site or reviewer goes out the window.
I cant stand it... Thats the whole reason I started my account over on Comic Vine. I read a few of the character bios, and just had to fix the little spelling/grammar issues I saw all over them. I spend more time doing that than actually posting anything... I figure if it isn't correct, then like you mentioned, the credibility drops drastically. As does the value of the site...
I'm hardly one to judge on a reviewers grammar and spelling, so I generally ignore the simple mistakes I may come across (as I've never encountered a total mess of a professional review on the sites I frequent). Obviously if it's a user review aswell, it's much more natural to let them slide by.
Professional reviews? yes User reviews? nah it can be as sloppy as possible as long as I can read it and I get the points then I have no problem with a user review having bad spelling or grammar.
@Abyssfull: Yeah, I don't really mind if it's a user review; I mean, most people just throw up what they're thinking, and try to put it in some kind of format, which I can appreciate - they're not getting paid to do this. But I can't stand it when I see professional reviewers constantly slip up, like they've got no editing or proofreading staff; and go on to say things they really shouldn't. IGN I find has really cracked down on this lately, while other sites seem to be getting worse and worse.
It's generally not the writers job to check their own grammar in professional publications..that job goes to the Copy Editor.
my brain doesn't really linger on every single word, so i may glaze over some misspellings...it's only when i come to a dead stop and have to decypher what the hell one sentence is actually trying to say, that bugs me.
@ Everybody: Yeah, exactly what I was saying to Abyssfull, no problem with user reviews being a little sloppy, but guys who are getting paid to deliver a decent, unbiased review shouldn't be able to slide misspelling whatever they feel like; I don't care if it's rushed or not, take the extra 5 minutes and read over the article. Oftentimes, it's a half-page article or review; that can't take long. Doesn't MS Word have a context underline if you use a word wrong? Are they writing in notepad?
It definitely matters to me, though as someone who writes a lot for a living, it doesn't mean the reviewer is an idiot. It's just simple proofreading. Anyone writing a high volume of text is going to make mistakes. You always have to go back and proofread.
Depends where its coming from,, if the review is from a professional journalist, I would expect a professional looking review.
For me, it probably matters more than anything. I don't know why, but I have a hard time accepting someone's opinion if it isn't expressed well. Also it just makes you sound kinda dumb to have mistakes abound in your article. If I see one or two though, in an otherwise professional article, I'm totally cool with that. It happens. But if the general grammatical quality is low, I start making assumptions about the reviewer.
" For me, it probably matters more than anything. I don't know why, but I have a hard time accepting someone's opinion if it isn't expressed well. Also it just makes you sound kinda dumb to have mistakes abound in your article. If I see one or two though, in an otherwise professional article, I'm totally cool with that. It happens. But if the general grammatical quality is low, I start making assumptions about the reviewer. "With a display pic like yours, that all goes without saying. ;P
Generally yes. A small (easy to overlook) grammar error may get a pass but in general I expect better from people who are paid to do that stuff. My tolerance for sloppy grammar and spelling is pretty low.
Copy editors are one thing, but after a point it looks like the person writing the review forgot that the point of a review is to convey ideas with words, and that undermines their credibility in a pretty big way.
However if the review goes something like this, I have a problem. -
___ IS A VRY MEDIORCORE GAME THAT LACKZ REPLY VALVUE...
You guys get what I mean.
Certainly, a simple typo I can accept will get through now and then, but you shouldn't be a journalist if you don't have a concept of correct grammar and spelling. Get someone to proof-read your stuff before you post something. You're paid to do a job, you should do it properly.
Normally I could care less about spelling. (Personal communications) But journalists by trade work with language and therefore, to be good at their trade must also be proficient with language. I don't care what the subject, it's not the fact that you play video games that makes you a good journalist, it's your communications skills. The subject matter is largely secondary. Bad grammar, spelling and poor copy edit skills are laziness.
In this world, to be taken seriously, grammar and spelling always matter. but on a seid note i ated lunsh not to long a go...
There's a ' missing in a "can't" up there... and it's "COULDN'T care less", please...
Interesting thing obout spelling:
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Damn. Sorry." There's a ' missing in a "can't" up there... and it's "COULDN'T care less", please... Interesting thing obout spelling: As lnog as the frist and lsat ltetres of the word are corcert it msolty deos not matetr waht odrer the rest of the letrets in the wrod are arargend as our barins tend to rwerok them for undetrsanabdlliity (touhgh rlleay long wdros mhigt cosnufe anwayy). "
Oh- also I understand the linguistic argument that spelling is largely not useful for effective communication. However I also understand the linguistic argument that proper grammatic structure is innate, and therefore required for effective communication. I don't think I mean 'proper' as in college paper style proper. I think I mean proper as in using a generally accepted grammatical structure with certain proficiency is required to effectively communicate. I can't remember the linguist who worked out this theory, and if I did I'd put his name here. Sorry.
One or two small mistakes are fine because nobody is perfect, but I don't take anyone that can't construct proper sentences seriously.
" @OldGuy said:well I just read old guys post easily...I mean I stopped a few times here and there and Am like thats not right...but I had no problem actually reading it.Damn. Sorry. Oh- also I understand the linguistic argument that spelling is largely not useful for effective communication. However I also understand the linguistic argument that proper grammatic structure is innate, and therefore required for effective communication. I don't think I mean 'proper' as in college paper style proper. I think I mean proper as in using a generally accepted grammatical structure with certain proficiency is required to effectively communicate. I can't remember the linguist who worked out this theory, and if I did I'd put his name here. Sorry. "" There's a ' missing in a "can't" up there... and it's "COULDN'T care less", please... Interesting thing obout spelling: As lnog as the frist and lsat ltetres of the word are corcert it msolty deos not matetr waht odrer the rest of the letrets in the wrod are arargend as our barins tend to rwerok them for undetrsanabdlliity (touhgh rlleay long wdros mhigt cosnufe anwayy). "
I went to a Liberal Arts college where I received a degree in English. Due to my background, it really urks me to see misspellings and grammatical errors in reviews, articles, etc. Though, I have not had that problem with Giantbomb.
As a former copywriter, I have to say you cannot always rely on a Copy Editor, or any editor for that matter, to catch all mistakes.
Three words: Elements of Style.
Or you can always blame the WYSIWYG.
It really does bother me. Maybe it shouldn't, since a person's use of grammar doesn't exactly determine whether or not they know what they're talking about, but it does bug me. Even in articles. IGN just made a GTAV wishlist article, and they refer to the GTAIV character Dwayne as "Forge". I won't lie, it took me a couple minutes to remember the guy's name, but what the heck, man?
I've seen "professional" non-gaming websites with atrocious grammar and spelling anomalies.
The bad economy attracts cheap labor. Unfortunately, you get what you pay for.
A person who is paid to write is someone who is expected to do so to the best of their ability. If their ability is consistently poor, then they aren't willing to improve or aren't capable thereof and so then they should find other means of employment. This is as true for garbage collection as it is for games journalism.
It adds a layer of professionalism that you just can't get if you have spelling mistakes.
If you fuck up your spelling and grammar, you CANNOT be taken seriously.
Yes, massively. It shows a lack of effort and skill if you make spelling errors when writing a review. It would make me question the integrity of the review.
Its very important. My grammer is terrible and thats why I don't write reviews. When I write threads in the forums I spend ages going over them to make sure they're right. I'm sure if I had paid more attention at school I probably wouldn't have to go to such lengths.
PS I have no fucking idea when to use a comma outside of making lists. lol
I tend to be forgiving when it comes to digital content that was posted in a short time-frame.
With print media, however, it is unforgivable.
This applies only to spelling mistakes. Everyone screws up spelling. Grammar mistakes are not typos and tend to imply that the author didn't simply make a mistake, but never knew the proper method. Anyone who is paid to write for a living should have a decent knowledge of grammar.
--hrmmm... that period probably should be inside the parens... no wait! "parens" isn't a word! Ah, no I don't need a period at all, because there's an exclamation mark there! Ahhh!--
Let's be honest, people have complained about how the language that other people use is "vulgar", "rude", "crude", "incorrect" and "slovenly." Well, fine, but I'm not satisfied to go back to Samuel Johnson's version of English. Shakespeare (Shakespere, Shakespear, Shakspeare, Shackspeare, Shakspere - you get the idea [regardless of the "controversy" over who he {she? Don't recall one going with a she, but you never know} was]) is generally considered to be the greatest writer in English. So why don't we go back to Elizabethan? Oh, no wait, how about Chaucer?
But, that's not gonna happen (ewwww, "gonna"). Some of the "misspellings" and grammar errors we get all huffy about now (we're actually probably right at the tipping point where "could care less" and "couldn't care less" will become accepted to mean the same thing [which is a different issue from them doing so in practice - which has already happened, frankly] - even if, when you take the phrase apart that makes no sense whatsoever) will be what English IS. Pronunciation is the same way (New - cle - ar vs. Nu - q - lur anyone?).
No matter wat we do b4 u no it English will b diff. I axe u, man, amirite?
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