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Posted by rufo (60 posts) -

HTML5 video is now OFFICIALLY AVAILABLE to all subscribers on Giant Bomb and Screened. DuderVideo has been updated to continue to work on Tested, Comic Vine and Anime Vice, and step aside when official video support is added. See last comment for more details!

Do you use Safari or Chrome(*)? Do you like Whiskey Media videos? Then I might have the browser extension for you! Introducing DuderVideo, the one-click solution to make all your favorite Whiskey Media sites play videos without using that pesky Flash player! DuderVideo integrates incredibly cleanly with Giant Bomb and all Whiskey Media sites, giving you smooth video playback without losing any of the functionality you're used to. A few pics to show off...

Choose between all three quality levels just like you always have
All videos on all pages can use HTML5, including review/news pages
Quests work the same way they always have - just watch a video to the end without skipping!
#1 Edited by rufo (60 posts) -

HTML5 video is now OFFICIALLY AVAILABLE to all subscribers on Giant Bomb and Screened. DuderVideo has been updated to continue to work on Tested, Comic Vine and Anime Vice, and step aside when official video support is added. See last comment for more details!

Do you use Safari or Chrome(*)? Do you like Whiskey Media videos? Then I might have the browser extension for you! Introducing DuderVideo, the one-click solution to make all your favorite Whiskey Media sites play videos without using that pesky Flash player! DuderVideo integrates incredibly cleanly with Giant Bomb and all Whiskey Media sites, giving you smooth video playback without losing any of the functionality you're used to. A few pics to show off...

Choose between all three quality levels just like you always have
All videos on all pages can use HTML5, including review/news pages
Quests work the same way they always have - just watch a video to the end without skipping!
#2 Posted by nathos (79 posts) -
#3 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

So their is html5 for all three video formats?

#4 Posted by Meteora (5787 posts) -

What's the advantage of using HTML5 than flash?

#5 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) -

Does this allow me to maximize video without it minimizing when I do something on my other screen? 
 
If so I'll subscribe right now and get it. I'm sick of the addon I use to make this happen becoming outdated every two months.

#6 Posted by JJOR64 (18916 posts) -

Maybe I will check it out if it comes to FireFox.

#7 Posted by huntad (1930 posts) -

Well, I'm not a subscriber, but this seems cool.
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#8 Posted by wefwefasdf (6729 posts) -

Whoa. That is pretty awesome!

#9 Posted by gunslingerNZ (1900 posts) -
@Pinworm45 said:
" Does this allow me to maximize video without it minimizing when I do something on my other screen?  If so I'll subscribe right now and get it. I'm sick of the addon I use to make this happen becoming outdated every two months. "
Can someone confirm if this is the case? I have the exact same problem whenever I'm trying to work but end up procrastinating.
#10 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@Meteora said:
" What's the advantage of using HTML5 than flash? "
If you have GPU capable of accelerating Flash, there is no advantage.  HTML5 x264 MP4 video will eventually have hardware acceleration support but it's a while off.  However, for non flash capable devices, like the iPhone and iPod Touch HTML5 is a necessity.
#11 Posted by JoeyRavn (4950 posts) -
@gunslingerNZ said:
" @Pinworm45 said:
" Does this allow me to maximize video without it minimizing when I do something on my other screen?  If so I'll subscribe right now and get it. I'm sick of the addon I use to make this happen becoming outdated every two months. "
Can someone confirm if this is the case? I have the exact same problem whenever I'm trying to work but end up procrastinating. "
Check here. The downside is that you have to keep a copy of the hacked DLL somewhere in your computer, because Chrome updates stealthily and Flash may start minimizing in fullscreen again. You go to your AppData/Local/Google/Chrome folder and replace the newer file with the backup you made. Profit.
#12 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) -
@JoeyRavn said:
" @gunslingerNZ said:
" @Pinworm45 said:
" Does this allow me to maximize video without it minimizing when I do something on my other screen?  If so I'll subscribe right now and get it. I'm sick of the addon I use to make this happen becoming outdated every two months. "
Can someone confirm if this is the case? I have the exact same problem whenever I'm trying to work but end up procrastinating. "
Check here. The downside is that you have to keep a copy of the hacked DLL somewhere in your computer, because Chrome updates stealthily and Flash may start minimizing in fullscreen again. You go to your AppData/Local/Google/Chrome folder and replace the newer file with the backup you made. Profit. "
I already use something similiar than that, I was just wondering if HTML5 supports this on its own so I won't need to deal with rehacking, which while not a huge deal, is obnoxious.
#13 Edited by Tyashki (211 posts) -
@Pinworm45:  @gunslingerNZ:  
 
The HTML5 video will maximise to the size of your browser window instead of doing a complete fullscreen. 
So (on Chrome, at least) if you tell Chrome itself to go fullscreen, then hit the video's fullscreen button the video will stay fullscreen while you do other things. 
 
@JJOR64: Chances are it won't. Firefox doesn't support the H.264 video that the new videos use.  
 
Thanks to the OP for this. It makes a sub just that little bit more worthwhile.
#14 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) -
@Tyashki said:
" @Pinworm45:  @gunslingerNZ:  
 
The HTML5 video will maximise to the size of your browser window instead of doing a complete fullscreen. 
So (on Chrome, at least) if you tell Chrome itself to go fullscreen, then hit the video's fullscreen button the video will stay fullscreen while you do other things. "
I'm sold. I'll sub next month when I get paid
 
Thanks
#15 Posted by Tyashki (211 posts) -

Addendum: 
Fullscreen HTML5 video won't stop your screensaver from appearing. Also there appears to be a bit of a performance hit.

#16 Edited by TheBeast (1931 posts) -

This is fantastic - great work rufo. 
So nice to be able to maximise inside a window; and have videos actually run smoothly for a change. My only concern is that Whiskey aren't getting the same metrics as they would from the Flash player - I suppose seeing as the quests are still triggered it's still OK though.

#17 Edited by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -

Rufo I fucking love you!  I can stream HD videos on my mac now without it sounding like it'll blow up.   
 
Dude, thank you so damn much.  Wow, my CPU cores locks at 30%, compared to the 80% I used to get using Flash.   
 
RUFO I LOVE YOU! 
 
EDIT:  Full screen works on Safari!

#18 Posted by MikkaQ (10270 posts) -

Wow you actually sold a membership with this, I'm damn impressed! 
 
Anyway, this is pretty awesome as I'd like to try to minimize my dependancy on flash as much as possible. Apparently every apple product I own hates it to death. I'm surprised Steve Jobs hasn't retroactively removed it from Safari in some devious update. 

#19 Posted by Tyashki (211 posts) -
@TheBeast said:
" This is fantastic - great work rufo. So nice to be able to maximise inside a window; and have videos actually run smoothly for a change. My only concern is that Whiskey aren't getting the same metrics as they would from the Flash player - I suppose seeing as the quests are still triggered it's still OK though. "
Would it look like more people using the mobile site?
#20 Posted by LordAndrew (14426 posts) -
@Meteora said:
" What's the advantage of using HTML5 than flash? "
You don't have to use Flash, for example. The browser is capable of playing the video itself without any help from external programs.
#21 Posted by rufo (60 posts) -
Thanks for all the awesome feedback, everyone! A few responses to questions that have come up:
 
@Dany:
 Yup, all three formats work great! Just use the same buttons as before. 
 
@JJOR64:  Unfortunately Firefox doesn't support H.264 video, which is the only video format that Whiskey posts. If Mozilla ever adds H.264, I'll be happy to get an extension running over there - but until then (or Whiskey starts encoding Ogg/WebM), you're stuck with Flash. Sorry. :-/  
 
@SeriouslyNow: On Macs HTML5 video with QuickTime still uses less CPU then Flash, but absolutely, it's possible some people could have better performance using Flash instead of HTML5 video. If so, just disable or uninstall the extension - no harm done!  
 
@Tyashki: HTML5 video performance is still highly variable, depending on your browser and platform. On my Mac, in Safari, HTML5 video is a huge difference - it uses far less CPU and runs much smoother, actually allowing HD videos to play back smoothly. In Chrome, though, it's still a tad choppy at large sizes. Your mileage may vary, but at least for me it's a far better experience. 
  
@TheBeast: Actually, all of their player events are still triggered, so they should still get their metrics. Whiskey's Flash player code was really, really clean, so it was easy to hack in while maintaining nearly all the same functionality. (The only thing I'm not sure is supported are potential pre-roll ads for non-subscribers, hence the current subscribers-only check.)
#22 Posted by Jeffsekai (7026 posts) -

Video is very choppy on fullscreen on chrome

#23 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -

Dave said they were gradually gonna move to a fully featured HTML5 site as time goes on and more and more people use HTML5 compliant browsers, so I'm wondering if they got something else planned for the video. 
 
I really hope they don't ask you to pull it, this is the best thing I've gotten from being a subscriber aside from the mobile site (which I end up using more than the browser site).  This really is a godsend for us using OSX.  x.x

#24 Posted by rufo (60 posts) -
@KaosAngel: I actually asked Snider for permission in the post-Happy Hour chat and he said to go for it, so I think i'm in the clear. Obviously if they ask me to pull it, I will, but I'm hopeful that won't happen. I fully realize this will probably only be useful for ~6 months, but the experience for me as a fellow Mac user is so much better with HTML5 that I don't mind spending the effort :-) 
 
@Jeffsekai: Yeah, Chrome was a bit choppy for me too. This is fully an experiment, so I won't have my feelings hurt if you go back to Flash. For a Mac on Safari, HTML5 video is definitely a better experience; for other browsers and platforms, it may not be. To each his own!
#25 Posted by tentaclesex (43 posts) -

This is rad, thanks.

#26 Posted by nickux (1383 posts) -

Gonna add the extension in Safari now and see how it goes. Thanks! I'll report back

#27 Posted by mccarron (75 posts) -

As one of the countless contributors and huge advocate of the ClickToFlash project on Safari, I hate loading Flash for video as how much of a hog of resources it can be for a simple system process. Actually GiantBomb was one of my very few whitelisted sites. I was about to make something similar, but more hacky and less polished like this is. Now I don't have to as this is perfect! Great work and keep it up! 

#28 Posted by Foggen (837 posts) -

I think my performance on my work laptop is not that much better viewing full screen HD video, and it's definitely not as good as downloading HD and playing in quicktime...  I like this idea, though.  I bet when Chrome acceleration really takes off this will be ideal.

#29 Posted by MisterMouse (3543 posts) -

cool cant wait till it is updated for all members!

#30 Posted by Clark (110 posts) -

Thanks for this. Works perfectly in Safari. I however am having issues with chrome. It is not taking and is continuing to play in flash. Do I need to be running a non beta versions of chrome?  
 
Currently running: 6.0.472.62 Beta

#31 Posted by Slab64 (1051 posts) -

This is cool. Not super useful to me as I'm on Windows, but cool nonetheless.

#32 Posted by Lord_Ozma (35 posts) -

Very awesome! Glad to see GiantBomb marching onward and upward!

#33 Posted by Mendelson9 (402 posts) -

Performance on my 2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro.    

 Safari Flash

 
 Safari  HTML5

 Chrome Flash

    
 Chrome HTML 5
Big improvement in Safari.  Chrome works well too but has weird spikes in CPU performance.
#34 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -
@Mendelson9: I got similar results!  *high fives OSX brother*
 
Okay, this thing with Chrome on OSX is just as bad.   I shall stick with Safari.
#35 Posted by kuma17 (155 posts) -

Wow this is pretty cool. :D I'll try it out :)

#36 Posted by MichaelBach (876 posts) -
@rufo:  This is great for my chrome, thanks a lot!
#37 Posted by Tyashki (211 posts) -
@Clark: It works for me, however I'm running  7.0.517.8 dev.
#38 Posted by Mendelson9 (402 posts) -

The only bad thing is on Chrome for Mac the video full screen button only fills the browser window and not the the entire screen.

#39 Posted by 1p (760 posts) -

Choppy fullscreen video on Chrome / Win7. Flash plays fine. Same with YouTube HTML5. 
 
I can't use it, but thanks for making this duder!

#40 Posted by Foggen (837 posts) -

I installed Chrome 7 in hopes that the GPU acceleration might improve full screen HD video, but I think it just wound up being framey in a slightly less laggy way than previous.  I hope Chrome video playback improves, because the fact that the flash version runs smoother demonstrates a real deficiency. 
  
I think I'm still going to use this plugin by default, though, because I like how snappy the video loading is, and how your video loading progress remains in the web cache between page loads. 
 
Thanks for making this!  It feels like you're helping nudge the internet further into the future.

#41 Posted by Clark (110 posts) -
@Tyashki said:
" @Clark: It works for me, however I'm running  7.0.517.8 dev. "
Seems to be a mac problem. Just installed it on my PC running the same version and it works. Weird. 
#42 Posted by Vager (1653 posts) -
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#43 Edited by rufo (60 posts) -
@mccarron: As a huge fan of ClickToFlash, thanks for your work! I'd been using a covert bookmarklet for a long while to replace the player, but was thrilled when Whiskey rolled out full MPEG-4, since it meant I could do something a little more permanent...
 
@Clark: I'm running the same version of Chrome (though without a beta moniker) and haven't had any problems. I feel a bit silly for asking this, but are you sure you're logged in? If you're logged in (or not a subscriber), the extension simply won't load - and I actually ran into that myself, once...
 
@Mendelson9:
 Indeed, that's correct behavior for now. Google's still figuring out if they're going to do full-screen HTML5 video, as opposed to full-window. If they ever support it, I'll be sure to update the extension.   
 
And, to everyone - thanks for all the awesome feedback. It's great to hear people are liking it! (Though it sounds like your mileage may vary in Chrome until Google speeds up their video support...)
#44 Posted by Forcen (1806 posts) -

If only the EVE Online browser supported extensions, it is based on Chromium. It would be nice if i could watch videos in while playing eve online. 
 
So please implement native HTML5 video in the website.

#45 Posted by Clark (110 posts) -
@rufo said: 
@Clark: I'm running the same version of Chrome (though without a beta moniker) and haven't had any problems. I feel a bit silly for asking this, but are you sure you're logged in? If you're logged in (or not a subscriber), the extension simply won't load - and I actually ran into that myself, once...
 
And, to everyone - thanks for all the awesome feedback. It's great to hear people are liking it! (Though it sounds like your mileage may vary in Chrome until Google speeds up their video support...)
"
 
Heh yeah i'm logged in. Even logged out and in just to make sure. I'll just mess around with my version some more tomorrow, or maybe just use chromium when Im watching videos.
#46 Posted by rufo (60 posts) -
@Clark: Huh. Weird. I don't have many other Chrome extensions installed, so maybe it's a conflict with another extension? If you can, could you bring up the Javascript console (under tools) and let me know if there are any error messages there? They'll be highlighted in red. Not a huge deal, but if there's a bug I'd love to make sure I fix it.
#47 Posted by D_Man_Taylor (108 posts) -

The only two things I would complain about when viewing HTML5 video in Chrome on a Mac is the inability to go completely fullscreen. Also when you pause the video and try to play it again, it goes black and I have to reload the page. Great programming otherwise!

#48 Edited by wefwefasdf (6729 posts) -
@D_Man_Taylor: Not being able to go completely full screen is part of the extension. It is supposed to be like that for now.
#49 Posted by peterpie (50 posts) -

Thank you!!

#50 Posted by JJWeatherman (14557 posts) -

Whoa, crazy. I had no idea that this existed until now. Cool stuff.