It's like trying to buy organs in the black market. WTF
I been itching to get a new magazine subscription on top of my Retro Gamer. So I figured I would pick up the newest EGM and Game Informer to see which one I liked better. Obviously, I'm not buying a mag for the news, I buy it for the personalities and their opinions. I know the EGM staff pretty well, but of course Game Informer being owned by Gamestop gets a lot of pull and a lots of exclusives because of their circulation. Anyway so I bought my EGM a few days ago at a news stand and last night I hit Gamestop at Union Square in NY for a Game Informer.
First, when I hand the guy the mag, he grins and tells me not to bother, just to get the Gamestop card because it gives me discounts on used games and gives me the subscription. I told him, I had the card already but never got my magazines. He asked how long ago I got the card, I told him "a long time ago" and he lets me know that there is a new card now and I would have to update mine. He pulls the card out and I tell him "yeah that's the one I have, but no worries I just want this one issue" He almost tells me to just take it and walk out, until he decides he'll just look up my account. He sees that I don't have the second tier membership (the silver card) and that is why I don't have the subscription. At this point don't care. I tell him, not to worry about it, I was just curious to see the issue because I wanted to compare it. He then proceeds to tell me that Game Informer is the only real mag out there. And I'm mention EGM, and he scoffs at my suggestion that EGM can even compare. He tells me he gave up on EGM a long time ago (oh let me guess why) and that Game Informer is the best magazine out there, I'm not sure if when he said "out there" he meant US, or in the whole world because Games TM, and Edge are WAY better but whatever that's not the point.
So now I repeat "don't worry about it I just want this issue" and he looks at me and looks at the computer and tells me he doesn't think he can even sell the issues one off like that. It's been at least 10 minutes, and I'm annoyed. I say "why would you have them on the stand here with a barcode if you can't sell them" he says "no one usually buys them like that, everyone subscribes" and I reply, "well you wouldn't have them here if I couldn't buy them, so I can just buy this one" and he says again that he doesn't think he can. At this point I tell him to double check, and he does, and his boss tells him he can just enter in the proper code before ringing up my issue and he does, and I walk out. And I'm never going in there again. I know they probably get commission on subs but come the fuck on man.
Ever Tried to Buy a Game Informer from Gamestop?
I didnt know they brought back the print version of EGM. Its been awhile since I have had a subscription and I remember when they sent out what was to be the last issue of the print version. Anyway EGM is way better then GI. In this case it just sounds like the guy selling the GI was just trying to get more money out of you.
That guy was either new, stupid, or being a dick. Or all of those. It's completely possible to just buy one; that's why they have sub cards inside the magazine.
It's a shame GI has a stigma because of Gamestop, it really is (in my opinion) the best game magazine out there. EGM and the like will always be way too fluff-heavy for me. Way too many gigantic pictures with blurbs and top ten lists and never enough writing.
Yep they're all like that. It doesn't matter how much experience they have, if the manager is there breathing down their neck for subs they'll get a sub out of you no matter what you tell them. Worst fucking place ever.
Pro Tip: use your school email to sign up for a free year of Amazon Prime that gets your free 2-day shipping on anything. It saves you so much on brand new games since they undercut Gamestop by a good six bucks on the average, not to mention all the ten dollar gift cards they give out. And their used games are always cheaper and not gutted-out like Gamestop.
i just wanted the alternate cover with the beatles on it when beatles rock band came out. i asked him if i could buy it separately and the dude just handed it to me. worked well, i think
That's such a bummer. Gamestop's practices just aren't helping its image. The snark, the elitism, all the slimy selling practices. It's just a big blow to consumer electronics and is why I have stopped buying games from brick and mortar stores. I shop almost exclusively on-line now.
No one's at fault here other than Gamestop's corporate policies. Employees there have to meet quotas on both Edge Card subscriptions and pre-orders. So if they aren't forcing that shit down your throat, they'll lose their job. I'm thinking about signing up for PC Gamer Monthly, myself.
ive never had an issue at all with gamestop. Ive purchased game informer, games, returned games, eventually got the subscription, and never once had any issues. I hear all this shit on here about how bad they are but i would love to go into a gamestop with you to see what the hell youre talking about. The ones in my area are good. Im in Arizona.
Wow that sucks for you guys the dudes at my local GameStop are like some of the nicest people I know they don't even need my to show my driver license and they never hassle me about pre-ordering the only kind of weird thing is one the employees hates activision which I don't mind cause I dislike activision too
It's funny. I always read about these horrible costumer experiences at GameStop online, and I don't doubt them, but my interactions have all been pleasant. The employees have all been relaxed and friendly, and I've even had some interesting conversations with them. I've been asked for pre-orders and subscriptions occasionally, but never hassled. One time the clerk even undercut the store by buying a game off of me for twice the trade-in price. Corporate probably hates these types, but at least they haven't soured my view on the company.
I remember one time I went into my usual game shop (Electronics Boutique represent!) to pick up a magazine and it was rammed full of shoppers, so I'm sat looking pissed off at the back of the enormous line for the cashiers when the manager (who because I pretty much bought all my games from that shop, I was pretty friendly with) saw me, came over to say hi and asked what I was buying. When he saw it was just a magazine he apologised for the queue and told me not to worry about paying for it, just take it on the house! That's my one and only heroic service story
... The store I frequent is cool about everything I've ever gone to them about. Even the employees are good. I feel like I'm living in some bizarro, alternate dimension when I come across these stories.
" It's funny. I always read about these horrible costumer experiences at GameStop online, and I don't doubt them, but my interactions have all been pleasant. The employees have all been relaxed and friendly, and I've even had some interesting conversations with them. I've been asked for pre-orders and subscriptions occasionally, but never hassled. One time the clerk even undercut the store by buying a game off of me for twice the trade-in price. Corporate probably hates these types, but at least they haven't soured my view on the company. "I've had a lot of experiences like that at my local GameStops too. There are three or four around here that are always like that. Maybe it's because I help other customers when they're trying to find a game to buy (and my suggestions usually gear them towards something more expensive than the budget title they were about to buy their kid) and the employees appreciate that, or maybe it's because I'm conversational and friendly when I go in there. Sometimes the clerks will disagree with me about stuff, but that's usually just part of their demeanor; when we agree, that's great too.
Most of the GameStops in Manhattan suck, I generally hit the one on 33rd and Broadway and they always pester me. It's because they are typically dealing with tourists and honestly it can be frustrating as hell; i don't really blame them but when I say NO it means I am not a tourist and want to get the fuck out of there already.
I tend to go to the ones in Queens or Long Island now when I am visiting home if I need something.
GameStop employees are told explicitly that if they don't make x amount of card sales, they will be fired.
It basically makes that job a telemarketing position.
Same thing goes on in book stores.
" GameStop employees are told explicitly that if they don't make x amount of card sales, they will be fired. It basically makes that job a telemarketing position. Same thing goes on in book stores. "Umm... no we don't? We have a goal, and if we don't meet it we maybe lose a few hours. I've never seen anyone outright fired for it though. Especially because there's a glass ceiling: once someone buys a subscription, you can't sell them one again for an entire year.
I'll admit, when I was a Game Advisor, yeah, there was pressure for numbers. So while I didn't bag on every customer who walked in, I would try to push it. Now that I'm an assistant manager at my store, I can tell if someone would even be interested, or I offer it if it would actually be worth it (save $9 on that certain transaction, etc.). Plus, if you work at a good store, the manager should know that you're trying, but sometimtes people just say no.
Anyways, OP, know that we aren't told we can sold just one issue. It's something we have to learn on our own. His naitivity may seem annoying, but he probably didn't really know any better (but the constant "GAME INFORMER IS THE SHIT!!!111!!" rant did bug me. The magazine has a lot of room for improvement, and from some of the review scores, it seems they feel pressure from their parent company to inflate scores so the game can potentially sell better...)
The last time I went to GameStop the cashier was super cool and pleasant to talk to. Most of the time they are just fine.
well, as long as we've got that settled" @gladspooky said:
" GameStop employees are told explicitly that if they don't make x amount of card sales, they will be fired. It basically makes that job a telemarketing position. Same thing goes on in book stores. "Umm... no we don't? ... I'll admit, when I was a Game Advisor, yeah, there was pressure for numbers."
" @choffy21 said:Did you read my whole post, or just that snippet? I said no one will get fired, and if you don't meet the goal, at worst you lose a few hours. I consider that pressure.well, as long as we've got that settled "" @gladspooky said:
" GameStop employees are told explicitly that if they don't make x amount of card sales, they will be fired. It basically makes that job a telemarketing position. Same thing goes on in book stores. "Umm... no we don't? ... I'll admit, when I was a Game Advisor, yeah, there was pressure for numbers."
" @choffy21: The District Manager is the primary variable. Some of them are douchebags that try to force numbers, some aren't. I've heard that the former is true most of the time. "It depends. My DM is kind of a pushover and doesn't even play video games, he's more worried about making money than getting numbers. Though if a DM really wanted to, I could see them flexing their muscles and forcing numbers.
It's been about ten years since I worked at Electronics Boutique, back when we actually had to wear a button-down shirt, dress pants/shoes, and sometimes a tie. Even though it looked more corporate and formal, EB's policies were actually pretty lax and there were no forced sales to make. We sold system warranties that I think were called (ESM's), but the incentive there was we actually got commission on it, but it was completely optional and had no bearing on one's employment or review results.
However, EB became more and more about pushing used games rather than new ones, and the worst 'push product' was a little thing called the "Game Doctor". Many of you who frequented EB in the early 2000s might remember the cashier counters being littered with them as well as an awful "how-to" video that would play on an endless loop. The thing basically shaved off layers of a CD with the hope that most scratches were minor surface level only. The reality was many customers would come in complaining they wasted $25 on it and all it did was make the disc look even worse than before. However, we were told we could not make returns on it, or we had to try to persuade them to not want to return it before having to go to a manager. In addition, they expected each employee to try to sell 7-10 of them a week! The best part was, EB guaranteed that used games would work, yet we were told to ramp up the Game Doctor pitch when they purchased a used game as a back-up plan for the customer. That's like telling the customer, "Hey, we promise our used games are fine, but if we're wrong, instead of refunding or exchanging the defective item, we'll charge you another $25 so you can try to fix it yourself!" Needless-to-say, I made little to no effort selling the piece of crap and I quit shortly before Gran Turismo 3 came out.
This was a roundabout way of saying it, but this was the kind of crappy policies that became the norm in videogame retail. Yeah you get your share of elitist snobs, but you also get people that just follow the inane rules because it's easier to just get the manager than to please the customer and potentially get yelled at, docked hours, later on.
no, i never did but i would have suggested it was horrible. gamestop people usually pester people to get them to buy things. it gets annoying from them. the gamestop i go to hasn't been all that bad. i would have went to somewhere else to buy the magazine. i'm pretty sure they sell them in other places. if not then o well.
Yeah I was looking at a copy of the Bioshock Infinity issue and asked the guy at the counter to sell me a copy, and he just gave me his copy and said "enjoy". Which was nice of him.
" GameStop employees are told explicitly that if they don't make x amount of card sales, they will be fired. It basically makes that job a telemarketing position. Same thing goes on in book stores. "@StriderNo9: Looks like the guy you spoke to was not trained very well.
Let me be clear. I have worked at a Gamestop as an a shift manager for two years now. For the most part I do not like their business practices, but they are successful and you cannot deny that. As a company that started small in the late 80's they sure have made a name for themselves with over 6000 stores now. The reason I work at Gamestop, before you start flaming me, is because this is a better college job than delivering fucking pizza; plus, I get to talk to others who enjoy the same hobby I do. Way better than listening to some fat fuck bitch about the pizza being late.
Gamestop employees make no commission for reservations or subs. Also, there is no minimum amount that we have to sell to keep our jobs. If you have a good manager, he/she will tell you that; the worst they can do to you for performing under your district average is cut hours by a small margin and give them to someone else. Also, if you ever come into my Gamestop, no one will ever ask you if you want to buy a subscription, reservation, or warranty. The only time I ever do ask these questions is if I can see that it would be genuinely beneficial for the customer. For example, I have had numerous college frat boys come to me with a copy of Call of Duty or Halo that got circle scratched at a party. I usually do the return for them, which is against company policy, and sell them another copy with the $2 warranty. Most people on my campus know me because I'm the guy they like who works at Gamestop, not the dick who tries to screw them over every time they walk through the door.
The whole GameInformer/GameStop/Game Industry relationship seems super shady to me. Isn't it actually just a heavily subsidised brochure for the store, rather than a legit game magazine? It does have a ridiculous circulation, but only by using the infrastructure and leverage (and presumably funding?) from their retail operation, which must have a huge influence on the agenda and content of the magazine/brochure.
" As an ex-GameStop employee, I don't think we were able to sell the magazines individually. I recall someone in your situation coming up to me, I couldn't figure out how to sell it. "yeah same here man, we gotta sell the sub and not just the mag. Gamestop ties their employees hands. So stupid.
Sounds like the guy you were dealing with was just an idiot. It's always blank and white with Gamestop employees. Either they are great and don't hassle you, or they are total idiots that think they can force and trick you into spending money on shit you don't even want. In my experience anyway.
My Gamestop is pretty cool, kinda silly to judge a whole franchise by one or two bad stores/managers
I used to buy them one off each month but it's really a better deal to just get the card. For the price of like two issues you get a year of discounts and the magazine. More magazines to read about games are always better: I get GI, EGM, GamePro, and PSM.
Really at my GameStop the way this would have played out is as such:
You: Hey, let me get this issue
Clerk: You know you get a free subscription with our new card....<insert pitch here>.
You: Nah, I wanna check it out to see if I like this one or EGM better.
Clerk: Oh that's cool. Just take that one to try out and if you like it let us know and we'll set up your Edge Card .
You: Thank you most awesome Gamestop dude, you rock!
Clerk: So do you citizen, so do you!
Anyone in the Portland Metro area should check out the Wood Village GameStop. Those guys rule hardcore! I usually shop BestBuy but used games and accessories I get from Mike and his crew because they're so nice and helpful. They are the exception I'm sure but that's not the point.
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