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#1 Posted by TheBlindChessman (250 posts) -

Wil Wheaton Vs GamePolitics
Wil Wheaton Vs GamePolitics
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#2 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6651 posts) -

Wil Wheaton is not to be fucked with. 
 
How dare you question his commitment to our culture. 
 

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#3 Posted by Leptok (982 posts) -

wtf, he flew off the fucking handle for almost nothing.

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#4 Posted by mylifeforAiur (3497 posts) -

Pardon my ignorance, but who are these people?  :I

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#5 Posted by Jadeskye (4392 posts) -
@Leptok said:
" wtf, he flew off the fucking handle for almost nothing. "
Wheaton was in the right there. He's an important dude and a keynote speaker at PAX with close friendship with the penny arcade guys as well as a Dungeons and dragons player AND contributer to DnD. 
 
And thats just what i know about.
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#6 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6651 posts) -
@mylifeforAiur: Exactly.
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#7 Posted by Jadeskye (4392 posts) -
@mylifeforAiur said:
" Pardon my ignorance, but who are these people?  :I "
@LordXavierBritish said:
" @mylifeforAiur: Exactly. "
Wil Wheaton is an actor (you might remember him as wesley crusher from star trek). He's also closely afiliated with a number of high tier gaming organisations (including penny arcade). One of the most important members of our sub-culture. His blog is pretty interesting stuff as are his books i'm told.
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#8 Posted by mylifeforAiur (3497 posts) -
@jadeskye: Thanx for the info. Never was a Star Trek fan ;)
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#9 Posted by TheBlindChessman (250 posts) -
@jadeskye said:
" @Leptok said:
" wtf, he flew off the fucking handle for almost nothing. "
Wheaton was in the right there. He's an important dude and a keynote speaker at PAX with close friendship with the penny arcade guys as well as a Dungeons and dragons player AND contributer to DnD.  And thats just what i know about. "
But the GamePolitics guy was just asking about what he'd campaigned for, it seemed like a legitimate question, why Wil Wheaton reacted like that I have no idea. The fact that he's spoken at Pax, is friends with Penny Arcade and plays DnD has nothing to do with what the GamePolitics guy asked. It just seemed like Wil got all "how dare you, don't you know who I am!"
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#10 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6651 posts) -
@jadeskye: I know who Wil Wheaton is, I just think he over estimates his importance. 
 
He's a cool guy and all, but it isn't like he does all that much for 'our culture,' or at the very least he isn't very overt about it.
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#11 Posted by Djeffers03 (2537 posts) -

Ok I don't really understand what's going on but Wil Wheaton seems like he's been a giant dick head.

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#12 Posted by Leptok (982 posts) -
@jadeskye said:
" @Leptok said:
" wtf, he flew off the fucking handle for almost nothing. "
Wheaton was in the right there. He's an important dude and a keynote speaker at PAX with close friendship with the penny arcade guys as well as a Dungeons and dragons player AND contributer to DnD.  And thats just what i know about. "
No he was not in the right there. Asking somebody what they stand for does not give them a reason to act like a total self important asshole. I really enjoyed him on PADND, but shit, this makes him look like a total spoiled bitch.
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#13 Edited by Jadeskye (4392 posts) -
@TheBlindChessman said:

" @jadeskye said:

" @Leptok said:
" wtf, he flew off the fucking handle for almost nothing. "
Wheaton was in the right there. He's an important dude and a keynote speaker at PAX with close friendship with the penny arcade guys as well as a Dungeons and dragons player AND contributer to DnD.  And thats just what i know about. "
But the GamePolitics guy was just asking about what he'd campaigned for, it seemed like a legitimate question, why Wil Wheaton reacted like that I have no idea. The fact that he's spoken at Pax, is friends with Penny Arcade and plays DnD has nothing to do with what the GamePolitics guy asked. It just seemed like Wil got all "how dare you, don't you know who I am!" "
a fair observation. I think the major thing he was pissed at was the game politics dude's incompetance. If he googled wil wheaton and read the first page of his website that would have told him everything he wanted to know. instead he chose to outright ridicule him on twitter. 
 
@Leptok said:
" @jadeskye said:
" @Leptok said:
" wtf, he flew off the fucking handle for almost nothing. "
Wheaton was in the right there. He's an important dude and a keynote speaker at PAX with close friendship with the penny arcade guys as well as a Dungeons and dragons player AND contributer to DnD.  And thats just what i know about. "
No he was not in the right there. Asking somebody what they stand for does not give them a reason to act like a total self important asshole. I really enjoyed him on PADND, but shit, this makes him look like a total spoiled bitch. "
I'd be pissed off too if someone asked me what i advocate for gaming and i was someone like Wil. I'll make this my last post as i'm coming over as a wheaton apologist but i maintain my stance that he was in the right if not overzealous in his defence and anger.
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#14 Edited by MysteriousBob (6262 posts) -
@jadeskye said:

" high tier gaming organisations (including penny arcade). "

Hahahahaha, I get it. 
 

 
Anyone who posts 'twits' from an iPad is an automatic bellend so I'm with this Wil guy. I haen't actually read what they're saying because I don't care about the arguments of two people I've never heard of.
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#15 Posted by Borodin (421 posts) -
@Leptok: Hmm maybe, but (and I know nothing about this!) if I tried really hard to be politically active on behalf of games (I'm not even sure what that means) and then a representative of something called GamePolitics says they have no idea what you stand for, that's got to sting? Either it's undermining Wheaton's efforts or it's making the GamePolitics guy look bad at his job. Is this really a big 'thing' though? Do 'gamers' need specific political representation?
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#16 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6651 posts) -
@Djeffers03 said:
" Ok I don't really understand what's going on but Wil Wheaton seems like he's been a giant dick head. "
Which is the most ironic part. 

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#17 Posted by dudeglove (12249 posts) -

I... don't get it.

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#18 Posted by BionicMonster (1046 posts) -

can I retroactively nominate IceT?

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#19 Posted by Icemael (6846 posts) -

Who the fuck is Wil Wheaton?

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#20 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6651 posts) -
@dudeglove said:
" I... don't get it. "
He is the most important man in video games ever. 
 

EVER.

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#21 Posted by TheBlindChessman (250 posts) -
@LordXavierBritish: @LordXavierBritish said:
" @dudeglove said:
" I... don't get it. "
He is the most important man in video games ever. 
 

EVER.

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No one is more authentic than Wil Wheaton.
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#22 Posted by Leptok (982 posts) -

A lot of interviews start with "So what do you represent" or something similar. I don't know why he flew off the handle, and then he just got worse and worse. Dunno, maybe dude was having a bad day. But fuck.

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#23 Posted by delta_ass (3807 posts) -

Wil Wheaton's easily hurt.

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#24 Edited by Sadisticham (279 posts) -
@jadeskye:  Wow that annoying little douche from star trek? Nothings changed i see hes just grown into a giant douche going by how hes acting there.
 
Anyway what exactly has he done "for our culture" cause i can't think of anything.
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#25 Posted by Jadeskye (4392 posts) -
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#26 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6651 posts) -
@Leptok said:
" A lot of interviews start with "So what do you represent" or something similar. I don't know why he flew off the handle, and then he just got worse and worse. Dunno, maybe dude was having a bad day. But fuck. "
I don't think you get it. 
 
Wil Wheaton has done so much shit for our culture, if he wasn't here there wouldn't be video games. 
 
Just watch him make allusions to things you've never heard of, don't you feel represented? 
  
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#27 Posted by Jack268 (3370 posts) -

Lol @ 2 grown men bickering like children over nothing.

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#28 Posted by homewrecker (205 posts) -

speaking at PAX doesn't have anything to do with representing "gamer culture" - he is preaching to a choir if anything. also "gamer culture" is a crock of shit.

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#29 Edited by Sadisticham (279 posts) -
@jadeskye:  Sorry I'm not going to read an entire blog that's been going for years. I looked over it and saw nothing that i consider important and i checked out his wikipedia page and see hes done a few PAX talks..which...don't really do anything either.
 
Hes involved i can see that. I don't see what hes actually done to help gamers. Is it that hard to just list off what hes done? o.0
 
edit: And i like my avatar. :D
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#30 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6651 posts) -
@Sadisticham said:
" @jadeskye: Is it that hard to just list off what hes done? o.0 "  
 And that's the joke.
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#31 Posted by haggis (1674 posts) -

The GP guy was asking about specific things Wheaton advocated. Not speeches, but issues. It wasn't an unreasonable question. Honestly, I appreciate Wheaton's public commitment to gaming, but ... he's got an ego. In this case, I think his ego got in the way of understanding the question. Maybe he had a bad day, or just got schooled on WoW. Who knows. In any event, he took the question as a challenge and went off the handle. You can tell from the GP guy's response that whatever offense was taken was not intended.
 
Wheaton has been great on Big Bang Theory and The Guild, though, which means I'm willing to forget the momentary breakdown of communication.

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#32 Posted by Sadisticham (279 posts) -
@LordXavierBritish: Oh right. I think I'm catching on now. Slowly but surely. I thought people actually..really did believe this guy had done something.
 
I was genuinly interested actually. Now i'm just left disappointed . :(
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#33 Posted by NakAttack (1329 posts) -
@LordXavierBritish said:
" @Leptok said:
" A lot of interviews start with "So what do you represent" or something similar. I don't know why he flew off the handle, and then he just got worse and worse. Dunno, maybe dude was having a bad day. But fuck. "
I don't think you get it. 
 
Wil Wheaton has done so much shit for our culture, if he wasn't here there wouldn't be video games. 
 
Just watch him make allusions to things you've never heard of, don't you feel represented? 
  
"
and my response   
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#34 Posted by Brodehouse (10827 posts) -

I like Wil, but it seems like he took that about as badly as a person can, and then never let up.  He was so ridiculously confrontational that it made me feel bad for the journalist.

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#35 Posted by Jimbo (10460 posts) -

Oh no!  Containment crew to twitter!  Reverse shield-polarity and mark hyper-warp seven!

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#36 Posted by JJWeatherman (14906 posts) -

Well that was kinda funny.

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#37 Posted by t_blok (16 posts) -

Yeah, just reading that makes me glad I don't care much for gaming as whole culture or who represents us.
Get over yourself Will.
 
Or I'll tell Sheldon...

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#38 Posted by sodiumCyclops (2778 posts) -
@Icemael:@Icemael said:
" Who the fuck is Wil Wheaton? "
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#39 Posted by bricewgilbert (255 posts) -
@sodiumCyclops said:
" @Icemael:@Icemael said:
" Who the fuck is Wil Wheaton? "
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How dare you question who Wil Wheaton is!! Do you know what he has done for the Wil Wheaton industry!?!?!
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#40 Posted by sodiumCyclops (2778 posts) -
@Cartman86: lol calm down, it was just for fun. Who doesn't know Will?
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#41 Posted by crusader8463 (14759 posts) -

He seems like a douche bag in that argument, no matter what he has done. I don't care if he cured cancer, nothing anyone does gives them the right to act like a douche. Plus he once wore this shirt so it invalidates any thing he advocates. 

 

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#42 Posted by seishiro (38 posts) -
@borodin said:

" @Leptok: Hmm maybe, but (and I know nothing about this!) if I tried really hard to be politically active on behalf of games (I'm not even sure what that means) and then a representative of something called GamePolitics says they have no idea what you stand for, that's got to sting? Either it's undermining Wheaton's efforts or it's making the GamePolitics guy look bad at his job. "

Basically this. 
 
Also, within a few seconds I pulled this from Wikipedia

  Politics

Wheaton described himself as a liberal in 2005. In September 2006 he clarified his anti-Bush beliefs in a blog posting regarding congressional debate over whether to permit torture ofunlawful combatants: "Shame on President Bush. Shame on his Republican allies in Congress."

A column that he wrote for Salon.com in 2005, The Real War on Christmas, attacked commentators like Bill O'Reilly and detailed his arguments with his conservative parents over current political matters. Wheaton's parents were very offended by the article, and he posted a lengthy apology on his site and an interview in which his parents clarified their political views.

On August 24, 2007, he gave the keynote for the yearly Penny Arcade Expo, which was subsequently made available online. He stepped in following a public battle between the formerly-scheduled keynote debate participants, noted anti-games activist Jack Thompson and Hal Halpin, the president of the Entertainment Consumers Association (ECA). Much of Wheaton’s address focused on the debate over violence in video games. He also gave the keynote at PAX East 2010 in Boston, MA.

He supported Barack Obama in the 2008 Presidential Election and opposed Proposition 8, calling it "nothing but hate and discrimination".


 It's as if a game journalist dubbed Shigeru Miyamoto "The Mario guy". 
 
And I can't help but think of  this clip:
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#43 Posted by bricewgilbert (255 posts) -
@sodiumCyclops said:
" @Cartman86: lol calm down, it was just for fun. Who doesn't know Will? "
twas a joke.
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#44 Posted by Icemael (6846 posts) -
@Gaff: You know what video-game related things I see in that Wikipedia quote? Things that every single goddamn video game journalist, blogger and even regular forum dweller has done.

But I suppose because he did it in a PAX keynote and not on his blog/site/forum/whatever (and keep in mind that many of these blogs and sites are more popular than PAX), he's comparable to Shigeru Miyamoto, one of the industry's luminaries.
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#45 Posted by Lautaro (454 posts) -
@Icemael said:
" @Gaff: You know what video-game related things I see in that Wikipedia quote? Things that every single goddamn video game journalist, blogger and even regular forum dweller has done.

But I suppose because he did it in a PAX keynote and not on his blog/site/forum/whatever (and keep in mind that many of these blogs and sites are more popular than PAX), he's comparable to Shigeru Miyamoto, one of the industry's luminaries. "
Well put sir, this Wheaton guy just came off as an idiot in that twitter argument.
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#46 Edited by Fish_Face_McGee (499 posts) -
@Gaff: Um, the only thing in there that he did for gamers specifically was step in to do a keynote when other people dropped out.  Honestly, that's not something to get uppity about.  The GamePolitics guy asked what Will has done for gamers specifically, and I have seen nothing in this thread or from Will's douchey remarks that answers that question.
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#47 Edited by SeriouslyNow (8504 posts) -

God, are you people morons or what?  Look, I'm no fan of his work (I hated him in Star Trek TNG) but he is a high profile gaming celebrity for geeks.  You know, that vast majority of gamers which most of you here pretend not to be aligned with.  You know, the kind of people who work hard at menial jobs so that they can go to CONs and play D & D on a regular basis and be the geek army which validates our market with high turnout numbers to these CONs where game publishers market aggressively.  The kind of people I have nothing to do with personally.  That said I know who they are and how important Will Wheaton is to them because he is a nexus between Star Trek geek-star and visible-to-the-public gamer.
 
The so called journalists were looking for answers which they could have found on fucking Twitter.  They shouldn't have asked him what they probably already knew and he was insulted by the stupid question.  He is a public figure who has made his politics well known in quotable terms more than once.  Any fucking proper journalist who knows wtf they are doing should be mindful of that when addressing a public figure.  It's as simple as that.  They weren't and he was offended by their stupidity and said as much.  Their stupidity reflects poorly on his work to make his political views known; he's been quoted before, so when someone asks him what they should already know it either looks like they don't know who they're talking to or worse, his opinion isn't worthy of their time.  In short they mishandled a public figure and then proceeded to do so further, which further raised his ire.
 
I realise that a lot of you are young and naive but that doesn't excuse you being a bunch of fucktards when it comes to basic journalism in the process of getting a sound (or in this case twit) bite.  It also doesn't excuse for going LOLOL LOOK AT THE ANGRY MAN because you don't fucking understand why he's angry.  Try getting off that diet of shitty reality TV and Lady Gaga music and realise that there are standards and practices which people have to live by if they want to call themselves journalists.  Not everything is the internet equivalent of bumfights.
 
Jadeskye, I'm sorry you even tried.
 
:/

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#48 Posted by jackbag (210 posts) -

"Our culture?" 
 
We have a culture?

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#49 Posted by Oldirtybearon (5626 posts) -
@SeriouslyNow: Dude, seriously, Lady Gaga is awesome. 
 
Good post none the less.
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#50 Posted by BraveToaster (12636 posts) -
@mylifeforAiur said:
" Pardon my ignorance, but who are these people?  :I "
I know, right