#1 Posted by Garrick_Greathouse (55 posts) -

I’m one of those guys that connects his TV to his gaming PC via a long HDMI cable. My wife likes watching me play games, but movement at 30 frames per second or higher gives her motion sickness. This goes for both games and movies, 120Hz HD movies also make her sick.

I’m running an NVidia card. Is there any way to limit FPS playback to 24 via a driver hack?

#2 Posted by believer258 (11677 posts) -

I can't fathom playing games at 24 FPS all the time. Is she sure it's motion sickness or is she just not used to 60 FPS? 60 can look really, really weird to someone who isn't used to it.

Uh... here. In that thread there is mention of a program called "DXtory" that does it for at least one user. I still find it hard to believe that 60 makes the experience worse for anybody.

#3 Posted by Vitor (2812 posts) -

@Garrick_Greathouse said:

I’m one of those guys that connects his TV to his gaming PC via a long HDMI cable. My wife likes watching me play games, but movement at 30 frames per second or higher gives her motion sickness. This goes for both games and movies, 120Hz HD movies also make her sick.

I’m running an NVidia card. Is there any way to limit FPS playback to 24 via a driver hack?

I'd recommend limiting it to 30FPS. 24 FPS for games will seriously impact your control. Those extra 6 frames will feel like a massive difference and shouldn't make things too much worse for her.

There's a reason most console games are capped at 30. It's perfectly playable and it's what I do most of my PC gaming at so I can eek out some more visual fidelity from an aging rig.

#4 Edited by Jack268 (3387 posts) -
@believer258 said:

I can't fathom playing games at 24 FPS all the time. Is she sure it's motion sickness or is she just not used to 60 FPS? 60 can look really, really weird to someone who isn't used to it.

Uh... here. In that thread there is mention of a program called "DXtory" that does it for at least one user. I still find it hard to believe that 60 makes the experience worse for anybody.

I'm pretty sure DXtory is a screen capture program. 
 
I THINK it might be possible to go to the display settings in Windows, going to advanced options and changing the refresh rate to 24 Hz? I don't know if that will stick in games or not though. 
 
But also I do agree that it'd be better for everyone to just adapt to higher FPS instead of changing things to lower FPS.
#5 Posted by believer258 (11677 posts) -

@Jack268 said:

@believer258 said:

I can't fathom playing games at 24 FPS all the time. Is she sure it's motion sickness or is she just not used to 60 FPS? 60 can look really, really weird to someone who isn't used to it.

Uh... here. In that thread there is mention of a program called "DXtory" that does it for at least one user. I still find it hard to believe that 60 makes the experience worse for anybody.

I'm pretty sure DXtory is a screen capture program. I THINK it might be possible to go to the display settings in Windows, going to advanced options and changing the refresh rate to 24 Hz? I don't know if that will stick in games or not though.

I was just repeating what I said in the thread. Apparently, it does have that functionality built into it somewhere.

#6 Posted by bibamatt (1086 posts) -

Some games let you limit the FPS in the options... Worth checking! Borderlands 2 does, as does Just Cause 2. I limit Just Cause 2 to 30fps, because the game feels much smoother at a locked solid 30fps rather than a frame rate that is sometimes 60, sometimes 30 and everything in between. Those dips are noticeable. A solid 30fps just seems smooth. Always wanted to do it in Saints Row the Third (my fps is all over the place in that - although mostly pretty high) but haven't found a way yet.

#7 Edited by emem (1961 posts) -
@believer258 said:

@Jack268 said:

@believer258 said:

I can't fathom playing games at 24 FPS all the time. Is she sure it's motion sickness or is she just not used to 60 FPS? 60 can look really, really weird to someone who isn't used to it.

Uh... here. In that thread there is mention of a program called "DXtory" that does it for at least one user. I still find it hard to believe that 60 makes the experience worse for anybody.

I'm pretty sure DXtory is a screen capture program. I THINK it might be possible to go to the display settings in Windows, going to advanced options and changing the refresh rate to 24 Hz? I don't know if that will stick in games or not though.

I was just repeating what I said in the thread. Apparently, it does have that functionality built into it somewhere.

It does, I've been using it for quite a while to play games without vsync while limiting the FPS to 60... when you start Dxtory there's a "Frame Rate" option in the upper right (it's in the movie setting tab).          
Here you go @Garrick_Greathouse.              
#8 Posted by Dan_CiTi (3186 posts) -

idk N64 games?

#9 Posted by MattyFTM (14348 posts) -

Forcing "Adaptive (half-refresh)" in your Nvidia control panel should limit you to 30FPS. It may have technical implications on some games, but it should work OK most of the time.

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#10 Posted by Devildoll (877 posts) -

@believer258: im guessing it gets "too" real, and then her body gets confused as to why she doesnt feel what her eye's are experiencing. (movement etc)

#11 Posted by Scrawnto (2435 posts) -

@Devildoll said:

@believer258: im guessing it gets "too" real, and then her body gets confused as to why she doesnt feel what her eye's are experiencing. (movement etc)

I've been playing games for longer than I can remember, so I've gotten quite used to not feeling what I see, but I definitely know people that have that problem. It never occurred to me that reduced frame rate might help with that.

#12 Posted by VisariLoyalist (2990 posts) -

@believer258 said:

I can't fathom playing games at 24 FPS all the time. Is she sure it's motion sickness or is she just not used to 60 FPS? 60 can look really, really weird to someone who isn't used to it.

Uh... here. In that thread there is mention of a program called "DXtory" that does it for at least one user. I still find it hard to believe that 60 makes the experience worse for anybody.

heh it's really not about the experience in this case and he's just trying to make his wife happy :)

#13 Posted by believer258 (11677 posts) -

@VisariLoyalist said:

@believer258 said:

I can't fathom playing games at 24 FPS all the time. Is she sure it's motion sickness or is she just not used to 60 FPS? 60 can look really, really weird to someone who isn't used to it.

Uh... here. In that thread there is mention of a program called "DXtory" that does it for at least one user. I still find it hard to believe that 60 makes the experience worse for anybody.

heh it's really not about the experience in this case and he's just trying to make his wife happy :)

I know, I meant the sensation of actually seeing something, but:

@Scrawnto said:

@Devildoll said:

@believer258: im guessing it gets "too" real, and then her body gets confused as to why she doesnt feel what her eye's are experiencing. (movement etc)

I've been playing games for longer than I can remember, so I've gotten quite used to not feeling what I see, but I definitely know people that have that problem. It never occurred to me that reduced frame rate might help with that.

It never occurred to me that the problem might be seeing yourself move but not actually moving. Huh, I never thought of that.

#14 Posted by wolf_blitzer85 (5250 posts) -

@MattyFTM said:

Forcing "Adaptive (half-refresh)" in your Nvidia control panel should limit you to 30FPS. It may have technical implications on some games, but it should work OK most of the time.

This is a nice easy option if you don't want to put too much work into it, however if you want to go a little deeper and get your desired 24fps, EVGA precision gives you the option to limit your frames to whatever number you want (assuming you're all up to date with your drivers of course):  

#15 Posted by Garrick_Greathouse (55 posts) -

Thanks for the input everybody! To answer some questions, she's had tv/film motion sickness for as long as I've known her. She can't watch hand held camera footage either, it has nothing to do with the newness of 60 fps games. The first time saw her get sick from a video was Rayman on the PC, the ultra smooth scrolling killed her.

I'll try frame limiting. If that doesn't work, we'll try sitting at off angles to the TV. It sucks, because she wants me to play Alan Wake but it makes her ill.