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#1 Posted by Red (5995 posts) -

Considering so many games deal with the identity of your character and going against what it assumed by the player, I was wondering if there are any games in which it is revealed you were actually playing as a robot the whole time, in a Blade Runnerian twist. Does such a game exist? Will such a game exist? Is such a game a good idea?

#2 Posted by Chuggsy (554 posts) -

Cave story? Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

#3 Posted by MB (12427 posts) -

I'm not sure, but a new Blade Runner film is going to start production soon!

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#4 Posted by James_Giant_Peach (751 posts) -

@Chuggsy said:

Cave story? Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

You are a bot in that, but you find out pretty early on.

To my knowledge it hasn't been done, which is weird...

#5 Posted by pornstorestiffi (4915 posts) -

@James_Giant_Peach said:

@Chuggsy said:

Cave story? Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

You are a bot in that, but you find out pretty early on.

To my knowledge it hasn't been done, which is weird...

Yeah pretty weird considering there has been a game where your robot arm is your wife.

#6 Posted by aceofspudz (938 posts) -

There was that doom fanfic where it turned out the protag was 'the demons' all along.

#7 Posted by DudeSupreme (212 posts) -

Honestly, I thought that was going to be the twist in Binary Domain.

#8 Posted by Vinny_Says (5709 posts) -

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

Didn't the DLC Mineva's Den for Bioshock 2 do something like that but with Big Daddies instead?

#9 Posted by J12088 (453 posts) -

I always thought agent 47 was a robot. Could of sworn thats how the original game ended but I've just looked it up and hes actualy a clone. But er...close? Sort of. Well not really.

#10 Posted by Nottle (1914 posts) -

@Red: Your mileage may vary, but depending where you live... Team Fortress 2.

#11 Posted by MoseSSesoM (235 posts) -

Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines

#12 Edited by BisonHero (6532 posts) -

Uhhh, I can think of one, but the nature of this topic is pretty spoilertastic. So if you like playing RPGs on handheld systems and don't want a huge twist revealed, don't look in this spoiler tag:

Near the end of Infinite Space for the DS, a big twist is that you and your sister are androids. The setting is sort of like Mass Effect. There's a big space war going on. But you also find out that even more importantly, there are these Overlords (that only a couple people in the universe know about, including the Space Pope) who are god-like aliens responsible for the warp gates (essentially mass relays) that connect the different solar systems. Much like Mass Effect's Reapers, the Overlords plan to destroy all living things to reset the universe once the galactic civilization grows too large.

The main character, Yuri, is apparently an 'Observer', some kind of artificial being whose experiences are relayed back to the Overlords (at least one other major character is confirmed as an Observer); his sister is a 'Tracker', another type of artificial being whose purpose is to be paired with an Observer for some reason that I don't remember. Yuri and his sister's childhood memories were fabricated, and it's implied (though not solidly confirmed) that he and his sister were willed into existence shortly before the beginning of the game, and part of their roles as Observer and Tracker is that they're implanted with a strong bond so they want to care for and protect each other; aside from that intrinsic bond, it is implied that Observers and Trackers otherwise have free will. There are several characters who remember growing up with Yuri and his sister, and it is implied that the Overlords have enough godlike power over reality that they fabricated those memories as well.

As you find this out and Yuri tries to hack into the Overlords' system to find out how to stop them, a defense mechanism kicks in, and the sister (the Tracker), just ceases to exist. There's a flash of light, and instead of her standing there, there's only a lifeless plastic-like faceless android (presumably what was under her skin and flesh all along, though they don't solidly confirm that). Not only that, it's as if she never existed, because suddenly everyone's memory is altered as if Yuri never had a sister. This is near the end of the game, so it's pretty crazy that suddenly everybody acts like they've never heard of this character you've gotten to know for the past like 60-70 hours. It was a pretty powerful moment, because Yuri first has to come to terms with being a pawn of these Overlords and learning his memories are largely false, then losing his sister, then realizing that no one can console him because no one else remembers her.

So yeah, it's almost nothing like Blade Runner, but it's a hell of a curveball in what is already a pretty involved story, with a bunch of interesting space politics and a large cast of characters. Here is more about the story: http://infinitespace.wikia.com/wiki/Story

I think the game actually has a really good story, so I cannot stress enough: don't read what's in the spoiler section unless you have no intention of playing handheld RPGs. The worst part is I can't even recommend the game directly, because that would give away that you're a robot all along.

Also, I haven't played Binary Domain at all, but after watching the Quick Look, I'm sure SOMEBODY turns out to be a robot all along. I mean, a dude ripped his face off, Terminator-style, and was a robot underneath. If your story has Terminator-style robots, you HAVE TO make a main character be a robot all along. Sorry if it turns out I'm spoiling that for people, but I am 100% guessing.

#13 Posted by Questionable (619 posts) -

FF7 had a similar twist where you are totally not who you thought you were. does that count?

#14 Posted by Vorbis (2750 posts) -

@BisonHero said:

Also, I haven't played Binary Domain at all, but after watching the Quick Look, I'm sure SOMEBODY turns out to be a robot all along. I mean, a dude ripped his face off, Terminator-style, and was a robot underneath. If your story has Terminator-style robots, you HAVE TO make a main character be a robot all along. Sorry if it turns out I'm spoiling that for people, but I am 100% guessing.

The actual twist is far crazier and far from predictable.

#15 Posted by ShadowConqueror (3052 posts) -

Spielberg's AI.

#16 Posted by Humanity (9276 posts) -

@Vinny_Says said:

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

Didn't the DLC Mineva's Den for Bioshock 2 do something like that but with Big Daddies instead?

Don't worry, he's not a replicant, it's all just speculation! We all know Deckard was human all along!

#17 Posted by fox01313 (5073 posts) -

The one game The Ninja Warriors was like this, everything looked normal until you started taking damage to reveal the robot underneath. I'm sure that there's some of the other games out there I've not played that pull a near Metroid style of ending but with the reveal being a robot/android.

#18 Posted by Tylea002 (2295 posts) -

Bioshock, basically.

I mean, pretty much, right?

#19 Posted by Yummylee (21665 posts) -

@Vorbis said:

@BisonHero said:

Also, I haven't played Binary Domain at all, but after watching the Quick Look, I'm sure SOMEBODY turns out to be a robot all along. I mean, a dude ripped his face off, Terminator-style, and was a robot underneath. If your story has Terminator-style robots, you HAVE TO make a main character be a robot all along. Sorry if it turns out I'm spoiling that for people, but I am 100% guessing.

The actual twist is far crazier and far from predictable.

A hurr that. And as Big So said, ''that's some sick shit''.

#20 Posted by Gaff (1758 posts) -

Speaking of Blade Runner...

Ok, so you're not a robot, but it does throw in some twists with regards to your identity and such.

#21 Posted by grahf14 (40 posts) -

Anyone ever play the original Wild Arms on the Playstation?

#22 Posted by Rhaknar (5939 posts) -

@Vinny_Says said:

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

Didn't the DLC Mineva's Den for Bioshock 2 do something like that but with Big Daddies instead?

a) the movie is 300 years old, come on dude

b) the movie itself doesnt even say or show that, it hints at it slightly, but its ambiguous.

#23 Posted by Rhaknar (5939 posts) -

@Tylea002 said:

Bioshock, basically.

I mean, pretty much, right?

I want to play this Bioshock you played where you turned out to be a robot, sounds like a cool game

#24 Posted by The_Nubster (2149 posts) -

@Rhaknar said:

@Vinny_Says said:

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

Didn't the DLC Mineva's Den for Bioshock 2 do something like that but with Big Daddies instead?

a) the movie is 300 years old, come on dude

b) the movie itself doesnt even say or show that, it hints at it slightly, but its ambiguous.

Yeah, even if the protagonist was a robot, it's not central to the plot in any meaningful way, it would just give you a different view on the events. So don't worry, give it a watch. And I'd recommend reading the book, too, if you can ever get your hands on that.

#25 Edited by NTM (7383 posts) -

@Vinny_Says said:

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

In Blade Runner it never said he was a Replicant. That's one of controversies over the film still. When I had first seen it, I was about half way through the film and I thought "Damn, I hope this isn't a film where it reveals he's actually a Replicant, 'cause that's kind of the vibe that's going." Which was weird, but since it never said he was either, I'd like to think the "hero" (Deckard) is human. Plus, Ridley Scott didn't know at first either, but later said he was, but Ford and Hauer always stuck with the Human vs Replicant idea.

#26 Posted by NTM (7383 posts) -

Also, people have said it, and also reminded me. Minerva's Den.

#27 Posted by I_smell (3924 posts) -

Mass Effect 3.

Think about it, Anderson's option was RED, RIGHT?? Is it ever proved that you AREN'T a robot??

#28 Posted by StarFoxA (5158 posts) -
@Gaff Not to mention how amazing of a game it is. With that said, so is Policenauts.
#29 Posted by Dagbiker (6976 posts) -

@Humanity said:

@Vinny_Says said:

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

Didn't the DLC Mineva's Den for Bioshock 2 do something like that but with Big Daddies instead?

Don't worry, he's not a replicant, it's all just speculation! We all know Deckard was human all along!

If you see the unicorn you know hes human

#30 Posted by Hizang (8532 posts) -

Mass Effect 3..

#31 Edited by BigSocrates (360 posts) -

MegaMan!

#32 Posted by eroticfishcake (7786 posts) -

Not quite but Deus Ex falls into this category given his JC's background and now that I mention it, Syndicate(2012)?. I like the concept of it though since it can be used as a good twist that isn't "THE BAD GUY WAS YOU!".

#33 Posted by Tennmuerti (8108 posts) -
@I_smell said:

Mass Effect 3.

Think about it, Anderson's option was RED, RIGHT?? Is it ever proved that you AREN'T a robot??

@Hizang said:
Mass Effect 3..
Your brain is organic, you aren't a robot in ME2-3, sigh.
#34 Posted by Humanity (9276 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

@Humanity said:

@Vinny_Says said:

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

Didn't the DLC Mineva's Den for Bioshock 2 do something like that but with Big Daddies instead?

Don't worry, he's not a replicant, it's all just speculation! We all know Deckard was human all along!

If you see the unicorn you know hes human

It's funny how in the actual book all he cares about is getting a cool sheep to show off to his neighbors.

#35 Posted by DarkShaper (1335 posts) -

I don't have any that haven't already been mentioned. But I would love it if Shoot Many Robots ended that way.

#36 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11032 posts) -

@Vinny_Says said:

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

Didn't the DLC Mineva's Den for Bioshock 2 do something like that but with Big Daddies instead?

Don't listen to them, he's not a robot! IT'S ALL LIES!

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#37 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

Snatcher.  Natcherly.

#38 Posted by ADAMWD (591 posts) -

Professor Layton and the Curious Village is the closest thing that comes to mind.

#39 Posted by Zippedbinders (997 posts) -

Earthbound sort of does it.

Spoiler Alert for Endless Frontier, not like anyone is going to play it anyway at this point.

You find out Haken is a genetically engineered human weapon and part of the same weapon program as Aschen and a few other characters you meet, and whereas most JRPGs would make this an uber serious moment where the protagonist questions everything he ever knew, Haken just shrugs it off and immediately understands that his origins don't make him who he is. He mans the fuck up and keeps on fighting like nothing ever happened.
#40 Posted by HandsomeMuffin (109 posts) -

I'm pretty sure that in the first Wild Arm's game the blue haired kid in it turns out to be a robot.

#41 Posted by bartok (2481 posts) -
Petz: Horsez 2 
The series takes a real dark turn.   When Sparkles the Appaloosa reveals that he and Fifi the French Trotter saved your life after your nasty spill off of Sugar Cube the Clydesdale by implanting your subconscious into a robot they made from farming implements is one of the biggest WTF moments.  It makes the Darth Revan thing from KOTOR seem petty.
I hear in Petz: Horsez 3: The Final Reaping you learn it was all the imagination of an autistic child looking into a snow globe. 
#42 Posted by Humanoid (206 posts) -

@Vinny_Says said:

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

Didn't the DLC Mineva's Den for Bioshock 2 do something like that but with Big Daddies instead?

God dammit, you just ruined Minervas Den for me. I would rather someone spoiled that than Blade Runner though, you poor soul. :(

#43 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4757 posts) -

@pornstorestiffi said:

Yeah pretty weird considering there has been a game where your robot arm is your wife.

What!?

What game is this? I think I need to play it.

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#44 Posted by dekkadekkadekka (733 posts) -

@GunslingerPanda said:

@pornstorestiffi said:

Yeah pretty weird considering there has been a game where your robot arm is your wife.

What!?

What game is this? I think I need to play it.

Bionic Commando.

The PS3/Xbox 360/PC version. Not the good version.

#45 Edited by GunslingerPanda (4757 posts) -

@dekkadekkadekka said:

@GunslingerPanda said:

@pornstorestiffi said:

Yeah pretty weird considering there has been a game where your robot arm is your wife.

What!?

What game is this? I think I need to play it.

Bionic Commando.

The PS3/Xbox 360/PC version. Not the good version.

Thanks.

Gonna buy ;) this immediately. Sounds dumb as shit.

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#46 Edited by I_smell (3924 posts) -

@Tennmuerti said:

@I_smell said:

Mass Effect 3.

Think about it, Anderson's option was RED, RIGHT?? Is it ever proved that you AREN'T a robot??

@Hizang said:
Mass Effect 3..
Your brain is organic, you aren't a robot in ME2-3, sigh.

It was a joke about Mass Effect ending theories.

#47 Posted by TentPole (1858 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

@Humanity said:

@Vinny_Says said:

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

Didn't the DLC Mineva's Den for Bioshock 2 do something like that but with Big Daddies instead?

Don't worry, he's not a replicant, it's all just speculation! We all know Deckard was human all along!

If you see the unicorn you know hes human

I thought the unicorn origami was evidence that he wasn't human as the asian guy knew his dreams.

#48 Edited by Grumbel (910 posts) -
@Red said:

Considering so many games deal with the identity of your character and going against what it assumed by the player, I was wondering if there are any games in which it is revealed you were actually playing as a robot the whole time, in a Blade Runnerian twist. Does such a game exist? Will such a game exist? Is such a game a good idea?

There exist a Blade Runner game and it pretty does that (has multiple endings, it doesn't do it in all of them). Also Infinite Space does reveal quite a bit of things about your identity that aren't exactly obvious at the start.
#49 Posted by BisonHero (6532 posts) -

@TentPole said:

@Dagbiker said:

@Humanity said:

@Vinny_Says said:

You fuckers just spoiled blade runner for me....and I was just about to watch it :(

Didn't the DLC Mineva's Den for Bioshock 2 do something like that but with Big Daddies instead?

Don't worry, he's not a replicant, it's all just speculation! We all know Deckard was human all along!

If you see the unicorn you know hes human

I thought the unicorn origami was evidence that he wasn't human as the asian guy knew his dreams.

I also thought this.

#50 Posted by mosespippy (4186 posts) -

@James_Giant_Peach said:

@Chuggsy said:

Cave story? Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

You are a bot in that, but you find out pretty early on.

To my knowledge it hasn't been done, which is weird...

I'm pretty sure you don't find out until you talk to Curly Brace in the Sand Zone, which is the fifth area. You can end the game as early as the 8th area. Sure you aren't finding out at the very end but it's certainly part of the second act.