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#1  Edited By jack_daniels

Post here if your a Suber and you want everyone to have the same access to the podcast. I really feel strongly about letting everyone have equal access to the bombcast. This has probably been posted before and i don't begrudge any mod from locking it.

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#2  Edited By Gizmo

You've subscribed and you're against the Bombcast being split? 
 
If you really felt so strongly about it, you would have spoken with your money, as it is you have supported this kind of thing. 
 
Congratulations.

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#3  Edited By armaan8014
@Jack_Daniels: You're awesome :)
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#4  Edited By Three0neFive
@Gizmo said:
" You've subscribed and you're against the Bombcast being split?   If you really felt so strongly about it, you would have spoken with your money, as it is you have supported this kind of thing.   Congratulations. "
This.
 
Whether intentional or not, OP is a hypocrite.
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#5  Edited By EdIsCool
@Gizmo said:
" You've subscribed and you're against the Bombcast being split?   If you really felt so strongly about it, you would have spoken with your money, as it is you have supported this kind of thing.   Congratulations. "
The subscribers wanted to give the lads money which is a very admirable idea. I dont have a credit card(stupid aib debit card no working outside Ireland) but I support people giving them money. Hopefully 5,000 will be reached but I believe the community will be irreparably split if the subs dont get a separate forum for discussion of exclusive content otherwise we will have sniping and whining each time a piece of content goes up.
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#6  Edited By Heartagram

Wow are we going to have animosity towards the people who are helping keep GB what it is because of the whole bombcast thing? Ugh. 
 
I also agree. I subbed to give the guys the cash and for the T-Shirt. Honestly I would've done it even if I weren't getting anything. Just wanted to support them. I don't want the community torn asunder by something so silly. I hope they put it back together so people will calm down.

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#7  Edited By TheAdmin

I'm a subscriber and I think the Bombcast should remain together and available for everyone... it's part of why Giant Bomb is so awesome!

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#8  Edited By mesklinite
@Gizmo said:
"You've subscribed and you're against the Bombcast being split?   If you really felt so strongly about it, you would have spoken with your money, as it is you have supported this kind of thing.   Congratulations. "

Noo, the money is to support their awesome work. I agree, I'd rather the podcast be the same, but I support them in what they do.
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#9  Edited By Gizmo
@99X said:
" I'm a subscriber and I think the Bombcast should remain together and available for everyone... it's part of why Giant Bomb is so awesome! "
See previous post, you are a hypocrite.
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#10  Edited By navyboy

It would be nice if the bombcast would stay the same but 5 bucks a month is not a heavy fee.

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#11  Edited By Aarny91

I'm against it. I mean, I like the fact that the guys want more money, but it isn't like their job is hard. Especially when you compare it to some other jobs.

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#12  Edited By gosukiller

I strongly disagree with the label 'hypocrite'. Are you saying that GiantBomb, for all the good things it's done over the years, isn't worth your money?
 
The Bombcast split is wrong, but that doesn't mean the subscription model in itself is. Knowing Giantbomb, the split won't last for more than a week, if it comes at all.
 
They can't be so naive that people won't pirate the (complete) Bombcast if you put a lock on it.
 
I plan on getting the subscription once the whole PayPal thing is introduced.

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#13  Edited By striderno9
@Gizmo said:
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See previous post, you are a hypocrite. "
Actually not true. There are other reasons to subscribe and they like those features. It's not as black and white as deciding if you like this bombcast split. 
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#14  Edited By MeierTheRed

I'm seriously getting tired of these topics. But then again it is fun to see the community being divided and people turning on it, i even get to see it unravel for free.

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#15  Edited By Shabs

I agree with the OP.  Free, full Bombcast for all is the only way to go.
 
The Bombcast is the best thing about Giant Bomb, and they shouldn't mess with it. 
 
Gizmo, they need money to run the Bombcast, as it's a big investment with no quantifiable return.  I get that.  What we are saying is that let US subscribers supplement that cost for people like you.  I can't believe you're being a jerk to the people who want to pay for a better experience for you.

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#16  Edited By StrikeALight

If they had included Paypal as an option from the beginning, I'm sure they would've been well over the 5k sub mark by now.
 
But yeah, 5 bucks is nothing, and I'm more than happy with my annual sub just to show my thanks.

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#17  Edited By warxsnake

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#18  Edited By Kohe321
@99X said:
" I'm a subscriber and I think the Bombcast should remain together and available for everyone... it's part of why Giant Bomb is so awesome! "
I agree. They should rethink the podcast idea. I subbed to support them so they can keep making awesome content, the HD and features that will come is just a bonus.
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#19  Edited By Anund

Agreed, there is no need to split the Bombcast.

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#21  Edited By viney212
@Heartagram said:

" Wow are we going to have animosity towards the people who are helping keep GB what it is because of the whole bombcast thing? Ugh.  I also agree. I subbed to give the guys the cash and for the T-Shirt. Honestly I would've done it even if I weren't getting anything. Just wanted to support them. I don't want the community torn asunder by something so silly. I hope they put it back together so people will calm down. "

My sentiments exactly.  I subscribed mostly to show support for something I've been using for free for awhile now, and the T-shirt + HD content were a nice bonus.   
 
I found out about the potential bombcast split awhile after subscribing.  It doesn't make me happy and I wish they would have been a little more honest about it, but I understand why they could have to do it.  As a business you can't always anticipate every decision you'll have to make.  I hope it can stay the same.  I like the current format and the community based around that.
 
If this is what it has come to though, I'm just thankful we don't have to see a 'subscription service'-less Giantbomb be forced to make even more cost-efficient decisions.
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#22  Edited By Branthog
@Gizmo said:

" You've subscribed and you're against the Bombcast being split?   If you really felt so strongly about it, you would have spoken with your money, as it is you have supported this kind of thing.   Congratulations. "

No, as it is, he's contributing toward YOU getting the bombcast, too. Thank him.
 
Also, this was already going yesterday morning:
 
 http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion/30/dont-chop-up-the-bombcast/445206/#91
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#23  Edited By EdIsCool
@StriderNo9 said:
" @Gizmo said:
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See previous post, you are a hypocrite. "
Actually not true. There are other reasons to subscribe and they like those features. It's not as black and white as deciding if you like this bombcast split.  "
I think a good bit of it is people feeling they have been decieved. Dave "We're not in the business of pissing off the internet" the you wont lose anything you have pitch . This resulted in us losing a 2 hour unrestricted day one bombcast. People have pointed out that time limiting the bombcast will severely limit their creativity and digressions.
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#24  Edited By MightyMayorMike
@Gizmo said:
" @99X said:
" I'm a subscriber and I think the Bombcast should remain together and available for everyone... it's part of why Giant Bomb is so awesome! "
See previous post, you are a hypocrite. "
I see where you're coming from, but this is a pretty one dimensional argument. The subscriptions aren't simply about the Bombcast (though I'll admit Whiskey Media is trying their damnedest to make it so).
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#25  Edited By jack_daniels
@Gizmo:  I subscribed because without our support this site would cease to exist as it does now. I promise you that they are spending way more money then they are taking in as of now. Plus I get a shirt shipped to me so thats got to have a value of atleast 15. So overall its only 35 dollars that these guys see. 
 
@Aarny:   If jobs were paid based on difficulty then  Micheal Jordan & Tiger Woods wouldn't be worth billions. It's the fact they have something of value that I think they should get paid for. 
@RiotBananas:  You know it.
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#26  Edited By jack_daniels
@EdIsCool:  I don't think they are talking about limiting it but it seems like its going to get more structured in the content they do talk about... which sucks. I love the crazy tangents that take 20 minutes to talk about. Like Ryan almost getting busted by the cops for using fireworks. Or that one time they talked about the cereal bar. That place sounded awesome.
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#27  Edited By dudewhaa

I disagree, giant bomb does a great job with this site as a whole.
 
The podcast, content, and community events are why I come to this site and support them.  Five bucks is nothing to keep supporting great content on not just giant bomb's site but tested, screened, and comic vine. I mean I can't believe this is even a issue!  You can buy one less DLC costume pack, beer, or  just skip a lunch once month to get access to the 2 hour bombcast every week,  live shows every Friday, and other exclusive community events. I'm not trying to force anyone to go out and subscribe but I'm just saying 5 bucks to help support these guys shouldn't be that hard of a choice.

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#28  Edited By jack_daniels
@dudewhaa: By splitting up the podcast its going to be hard for new members to get into it. If I was new why would I want to listen to an unknown podcasts thats broken up?
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#29  Edited By armaan8014
@pornstorestiffi said:
" I'm seriously getting tired of these topics. But then again it is fun to see the community being divided and people turning on it, i even get to see it unravel for free. "
lol
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#30  Edited By sydrocks

I payed to help support Giant Bomb and Whiskey Media but I would rather have the bombcast remain the same for everyone. I don't think I'm being a hypocrite because of that.

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#31  Edited By namster

You can be a Subber and still be against the splitting of the bombcast. I subbed to help out the site and like Ryan said "buy their freedom" in a way. I rather the giant bomb guys get to cover and do stories on what they're interested in and entertain us rather than be a slave to advertising.
 
The split bombcast is just a bad idea in my opinion. Subscriber or not it'll create weird riffs where people will have disjointed discussions on the forums, there will be a weird lag in relevent emails, and the rss feed.... blech

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#32  Edited By HydraHam

I think they should keep the bombcast 100% free for everyone but even if i didn't subscribe i wouldn't be that devastated since the average podcast is 40-60 minutes anyways it just spreads it out for people besides even if they don't hit the 5k mark we all know it will eventually go free, peoples lives won't be ruined from a split podcast.

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#33  Edited By sk0ney

tbh............. splitting up the bombcast sounds retarded. is the tested/screened casts going to be split too?
no ofcourse they arent.  :/
i could never say a bad word about the giant bomb guys, and i understand that they are trying to gauge what the community is willing to pay for. but isnt the point of the whiskeymedia subs to be giving MORE to the users? with this its as if your getting penalized for not subbing. SURE your getting all the content u would normally.. but the bombcast is sacred, and they shouldnt be using it as bait.

but whatever, i paid for my yearly sub + international shipping fees and would have paid twice that. WM sites are fucking awesome, and whilst i only use giantbomb/screened/tested, knowing that my contribution is going towards more craziness. it warms my heart.
 
but splitting up the bombcast..... please dont do that.
4.4k subs is a tremendous effort. and i bet a HUGE percentage of that is yearly subbers like myself.
 
anyways glhf with the new resources WM guys + girls

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#34  Edited By Sooty

Against.

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#35  Edited By EdIsCool

this is the first time they have shat on the community,they're great guys this is not in character for them at all. I hope higher ups are not forcing them to behave in ways that they dont want to.

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#36  Edited By oedipus

Two Bombcasts are better than one.

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#37  Edited By Siphillis

I subscribed mostly to prevent the split.

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#38  Edited By vitor
@gosukiller said:
" I strongly disagree with the label 'hypocrite'. Are you saying that GiantBomb, for all the good things it's done over the years, isn't worth your money?  The Bombcast split is wrong, but that doesn't mean the subscription model in itself is. Knowing Giantbomb, the split won't last for more than a week, if it comes at all.  They can't be so naive that people won't pirate the (complete) Bombcast if you put a lock on it.  I plan on getting the subscription once the whole PayPal thing is introduced. "
These guys have proven time and time again that they have a strong sense of moral integrity and that they 'get' their userbase. I would be shocked if the split remains after all the visible backlash the idea generated. 
 
To be honest, it seems to have stopped people from subscribing, more than it has encouraged. I'd decided to take the plunge before the feature set was even announced, so the bombcast didn't even factor into it here and judging from responses on various threads, most people who opted in did so for similar reasons.
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#39  Edited By taylor109

I subscribed to help hit the 5k to hopefully keep the bombcast free and intact.

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#40  Edited By LumpOfCole

I subbed because I think Giant Bomb is the only worthy game site on the interwebs that deserve my money, and as a reward I'm getting: 1) Tshirt, 2) Introduction to other awesome Whiskey sites which I didn't really ever go to before yesterday, and 3) I live on my phone and love the mobile sites pretty hard.

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#41  Edited By EdIsCool
@Vitor said:
" @gosukiller said:
" I strongly disagree with the label 'hypocrite'. Are you saying that GiantBomb, for all the good things it's done over the years, isn't worth your money?  The Bombcast split is wrong, but that doesn't mean the subscription model in itself is. Knowing Giantbomb, the split won't last for more than a week, if it comes at all.  They can't be so naive that people won't pirate the (complete) Bombcast if you put a lock on it.  I plan on getting the subscription once the whole PayPal thing is introduced. "
These guys have proven time and time again that they have a strong sense of moral integrity and that they 'get' their userbase. I would be shocked if the split remains after all the visible backlash the idea generated.  To be honest, it seems to have stopped people from subscribing, more than it has encouraged. I'd decided to take the plunge before the feature set was even announced, so the bombcast didn't even factor into it here and judging from responses on various threads, most people who opted in did so for similar reasons. "
The guys having been so awesome up to this point is what caused the outcry I think, its like being punched in the balls by fluffiest,cutest kitty ever.
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#42  Edited By vitor
@EdIsCool said:
" @Vitor said:
" @gosukiller said:
" I strongly disagree with the label 'hypocrite'. Are you saying that GiantBomb, for all the good things it's done over the years, isn't worth your money?  The Bombcast split is wrong, but that doesn't mean the subscription model in itself is. Knowing Giantbomb, the split won't last for more than a week, if it comes at all.  They can't be so naive that people won't pirate the (complete) Bombcast if you put a lock on it.  I plan on getting the subscription once the whole PayPal thing is introduced. "
These guys have proven time and time again that they have a strong sense of moral integrity and that they 'get' their userbase. I would be shocked if the split remains after all the visible backlash the idea generated.  To be honest, it seems to have stopped people from subscribing, more than it has encouraged. I'd decided to take the plunge before the feature set was even announced, so the bombcast didn't even factor into it here and judging from responses on various threads, most people who opted in did so for similar reasons. "
The guys having been so awesome up to this point is what caused the outcry I think, its like being punched in the balls by fluffiest,cutest kitty ever. "
But look at those big eyes! How could I possibly stay mad at Vinny? 
 
Seriously though, they've never let us down so far - so why the hell would they start doing so now? What's with the sudden pessimism towards a crew we all respected in a big way for so long? I trust in them to do the right thing for the site, regardless of their decision, and am hopeful that it'll go the fans' way.
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#43  Edited By Aetos
@Jack_Daniels said:
" @dudewhaa: By splitting up the podcast its going to be hard for new members to get into it. If I was new why would I want to listen to an unknown podcasts thats broken up? "
Thats what I've been thinking too. Like you said what random visitor is gonna want to listen to half a podcast and want to come back again for the rest.
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#44  Edited By Hector

It should stay free for everyone.

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#45  Edited By BraveToaster

You would really make a difference if you paid for my year subscription.

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#46  Edited By Genjai
@Hector said:
" It should stay free for everyone. "
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#47  Edited By sephirm87
@Gizmo: 
If the bombcast wasn't splitting, then it would have gone from 2 hrs to 1 hr. Splitting was a compromise to keep the bombcast 2 hrs long.  All time sensitive information will be given in the first hour and the second hour will be general discussion topics (ie emails).
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#48  Edited By jack_daniels
@Axxol said:
" You would really make a difference if you paid for my year subscription. "
We should have all spent $50 dollars on Haiti or Cancer research.
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#49  Edited By wefwefasdf

*bangs head on desk*

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#50  Edited By BraveToaster
@Jack_Daniels said:
" @Axxol said:
" You would really make a difference if you paid for my year subscription. "
We should have all spent $50 dollars on Haiti or Cancer research. "
That's would be a waste of MONIEZ