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@flappy: I'm used to it honestly. My game tastes are well, very niche in most cases. Like, I have a real soft spot for fucking Bulletwitch of all things. So the popular thing being the thing that I'm not a fan of Isn't a real shock for me honestly. =p
FWIW, I don't get the Burnout love either. I just don't happen to think Forza 3 is GotG material either.
I actually found a lot of things about Burnout Paradise really frustrating - like the changes to traffic checking, the completely inconsistent vehicle frailty and having to pause almost every time you take a turn to make sure it's the right one because checking the minimap is a death sentence - but it's still a hell of a game.
I liked Burnout Paradise but I came to kind of loathe it by the time I was done with it. Granted I played it after all the online shenanigans were kinda gone but sticking to single-player led to a lot of tedium just driving around the city just to get to the next race which would just be that same street race for the 5th time. I had fun with it as my first Burnout game but all it really made me want is a proper Burnout with crash mode and none of the open-world stuff that got really stale by the end.
So yeah, fuck DJ Atomica, Forza 3 *throws up two middle fingers toward the sky intended for DJ Atomica*
Believe it or not, I never really liked burnout paradise. It's really well made, and I want to like it, but every time I try to get into it, I find it really difficult to find out where the hell I'm going during the races/events. I had more fun with previous Burnout paradise entries. Forza 3 was fantasic. I'm sort of over sim racers at this point, but at the time it hit all the right notes for me.
I voted for Burnout.
Forza 3 has a great driving model, but the progression system in that game was fucked. I cannot stand any game with an auto-levelling mechanic, and unfortunately, Forza 3 has one of the worst balanced progression systems out there. The game is always giving you new cars and this makes saving up for a new car almost useless. Upgrading a car is useless because, every time you make your car faster, your opponents become faster. Then most races seem to adapt to the style of car that you prefer driving, and that screws over the variety in the game.
I really, really, really dislike racing around in Burnout Paradise. It always feels as if I'm losing because I chose the wrong route or vice versa, and I find that to be a terrible way to create a racing game. This also comes from a bit of resentment due to the fact that I love the shit out of every other Burnout game and could never get past an hour or two of Paradise. I also think Forza 3 is awesome.
Burnout Paradise is an inferior game in one of my favorite arcade racing series ever.
And no one listened to me in the main topic when I said to replace Forza 3 with Forza 4 in the bracket, one of the best games of this generation that was everything Forza 3 wanted to be, but wasn't.
So between these two good, not great, racing games, I'll go with Forza 3 since it's the closest I'll be able to get to voting Forza 4. Not that it matters, since Giant Bomb is in love with Burnout Paradise for some reason (that reason being Vinny and his editing skills).
Do you think Burnout Paradise is somehow just the perfect storm in appealing to Jeff's tastes in racing games, or does he regard it so highly because it was a game he played a lot during the period after he got fired, so he didn't have to play it for review and had the time to just get real deep into doing all of the stuff Paradise has you do, just for the fun of it?
Could any other reasonably fun game have taken the role of Burnout Paradise, if Jeff had been fired from Gamespot earlier or later? If the GB crew talks about Game of the Generation on this year's GotY podcast, I feel like Jeff will almost certainly nominate Burnout Paradise.
Which is the better game, Forza. Which game has broader appeal and will win this round, Burnout. I guess "Game of the Generation" takes into account influence and impact the game had, rather than just the quality of the game itself. Forza 4 is the better game, but Forza 3 is the one being voted on. The ideas from Burnout Paradise have been improved upon in the later Need for Speed games, but Burnout still stands out as a favorite in the community.