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#51  Edited By Jolly_Lolly
@JakJ said:
" @Azteck:  Banners don't waste time, though. 10 seconds each time adds up after a while. The conan and halo banners on the sides aren't nearly as distracting I don't think. "
You said you were here since the beginning, how you were here to support the site, and yet when they try to make some money to make this a better place for us, yes, including you, you moan about a 10 second clip?
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#52  Edited By JakJ
@buzz_clik said:

" @JakJ said:

" these ads are annoying as hell and there has to be a better way, or better ads, to support the website we both enjoy visiting. "
What's more annoying - a couple of 10 second ads you have to endure (I realise your time is probably very precious) or Giant Bomb disappearing? And if there's a better way to do it as you suggest, I'm sure you'll spend a while coming up with an alternative or two instead of bitching about it on the internet, right? Attaboy. "
 But Giant Bomb WILL NOT disappear if they don't show game-related pre-roll ads. Once again it's not an either-or situation, even though the less educated in online advertising will fail to realize this.  And why ask me for an alternative when I mentioned one earlier on? Just to make a snide remark? Also, since when did observation of a situation and asking a bunch of people for ideas become bitching? Your sarcasm is top notch though, congratulations there, sports fan. because if anything this topic needs it's more sarcasm!
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#53  Edited By JakJ
@Jolly_Lolly: Simply because 1) they said they would not do it and I'm calling them out on it, 2) there are other ways to make money, such as banners in the free space, and 3) I fear (and see) this becoming much more than a simple 10 second add down the road
 Thank you for using civil conversation.
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#54  Edited By buzz_clik
@JakJ said:

" But Giant Bomb WILL NOT disappear if they don't show game-related pre-roll ads. Once again it's not an either-or situation, even though the less educated in online advertising will fail to realize this.  And why ask me for an alternative when I mentioned one earlier on? Just to make a snide remark? Also, since when did observation of a situation and asking a bunch of people for ideas become bitching? Your sarcasm is top notch though, congratulations there, sports fan. because if anything this topic needs it's more sarcasm! "

Alright, then... educate me. Tell me exactly how Giant Bomb's online advertising policy is implemented. I'm not saying it's their only option either, but it obviously it goes some way to keeping them in business, otherwise why would they bother?

As for the sarcasm tip, I'm sure Jeff really digs the Eidos snipe in your original post. Oh, and chucking in a couple of zingy names while addressing people (ie 'sports fan') doesn't do anything to make you seem like you're working to resolve anything any more than I am. Call that one a draw, huh?
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#55  Edited By Jolly_Lolly
@JakJ said:

" @Jolly_Lolly: Simply because 1) they said they would not do it and I'm calling them out on it, 2) there are other ways to make money, such as banners in the free space, and 3) I fear (and see) this becoming much more than a simple 10 second add down the road Thank you for using civil conversation. "

Ok, but you have to understand that they are becoming bigger, and therefore need sponsors etc. Not that many people buy their merchandise, otherwise they wouldn't even need the ads.  
 
Just be thankful we don't have to pay for extra content. If that happens, then it's time to worry.  Hopefully this won't turn into an "Animal Farm" esque story. 
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#56  Edited By Absurd

I believe on the advertise page, it gives info on the types of advertising space Giantbomb is willing to offer. I'm quite certain somewhere on that page, it talks about video advertising.

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#57  Edited By Dalai

Shocked and appalled!  How dare Giant Bomb make money in order to pay salaries and maintain the site!
 
Those bastards.

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#58  Edited By Damian

They should sign a sponsorship deal with a Mexican Midget Wrestling league, and that way everyone's a winner.

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@wordsgohere said:
" @JakJ said:
" @ArbitraryWater: Rank means a fuck of a lot more than post counts. We built this site instead of blabbing away post after post in the forums. Any jackass can post and post, only real GB members add to the site. "
Wow.  What a tool. "
Agreed. This community doesn't need elitist arseholes like him around.
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#60  Edited By Black_Rose
@Hamz said:
" Pre-roll advertisements on videos will only appear for users from the USA. Those outside this region will not see pre-roll adverts before videos load.  . "
Epic fucking win
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#61  Edited By Damian
@Khann said:
" Agreed. This community doesn't need elitist arseholes like him around. "
I can't tell if you're trying to be ironical there or not.
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@Damian said:
" @Khann said:
" Agreed. This community doesn't need elitist arseholes like him around. "
I can't tell if you're trying to be ironical there or not. "
Wha...? How am I an elitist arsehole? :(
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#63  Edited By Damian
@Khann said:
" @Damian said:
" @Khann said:
" Agreed. This community doesn't need elitist arseholes like him around. "
I can't tell if you're trying to be ironical there or not. "
Wha...? How am I an elitist arsehole? :( "
Didn't mean to judging you personally. Just saying "Let's get (insert type of people) out of here" sounds a bit ... lynchy. This thread's obviously gone to crap. The OP was just groaning out loud. Nothing major, and people jumped down his throat. Then he proceeded to put his foot in his mouth a bit (this is the internet, and we all do it sometimes). And his throat got a lot wider.
I just think this thread is getting a little too "serious businessy" is all. Ads are here on vids for Americans. Some people seem allergic to advertising. It's no big deal either way. Right?
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#64  Edited By TwoOneFive

dude i fucking hate it when they do that. ugh. why giantbomb. 

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@Damian said:

" @Khann said:

" @Damian said:
" @Khann said:
" Agreed. This community doesn't need elitist arseholes like him around. "
I can't tell if you're trying to be ironical there or not. "
Wha...? How am I an elitist arsehole? :( "
Didn't mean to judging you personally. Just saying "Let's get (insert type of people) out of here" sounds a bit ... lynchy. This thread's obviously gone to crap. The OP was just groaning out loud. Nothing major, and people jumped down his throat. Then he proceeded to put his foot in his mouth a bit (this is the internet, and we all do it sometimes). And his throat got a lot wider.I just think this thread is getting a little too "serious businessy" is all. Ads are here on vids for Americans. Some people seem allergic to advertising. It's no big deal either way. Right? "
I'm one of the lucky ones that doesn't get video ads, so I don't really have an issue. If I did have the ads, I wouldn't have an issue if it stayed as 20 seconds a day, but if it started getting to 10-20 seconds every time a video loaded, THEN I would have some issue with it. I mean, it wouldn't stop me coming to the site by any means, it would just be annoying and I'd rather it wasn't there.
 
All that said, I can't watch videos or see banner ads anyway. Browsing the net with images turned off and unable to watch videos due to dial-up.... sucks.
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#66  Edited By Symphony

*Cheers on Stang and ArbitraryWater*
 
I really can't understand why you've acted like such an immature brat in the majority of your responses, JakJ, but whatever, you've done an excellent job proving you're not worth having a conversation with.
 
Regardless, I'll bring this back on topic -- As for ads on the site, I really can't say anything that hasn't been said plenty of times already. I have no problem with GB making revenue off of advertisements. If it keeps the site running, all the power to them! It would be awesome if there was more variety of stuff in the store, but such stores and merchandise don't generate much revenue and more of a service to fans than a way to make money. So unless you want to be stuck paying a membership fee for "exclusive" content or the ablity to browse without ads (a la sites like IGN), 10-second ads occasionally showing up at the start of videos is a very fair price to pay.

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#67  Edited By Muttinus_Rump

Yeah, i'm sure you could be using that 20 seconds a day to be doing something worthwhile.

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#68  Edited By Druminator

I've only seen one ad so far and it was so short I barely noticed it because I was reading comments. It will only be a big deal if they get annoying and out of hand.

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#69  Edited By JakJ
@Symphony: I was only responding in type to how they responded to me. In my original post, and to people that were civil, I was civil in return. These were the people that instead of discussing the topic just immediately attacked me, and I'm not going to be kind to those types of people. By saying I acted bratty and giving them a cheer, you are simply being a hypocrite. I appreciate the second paragraph though.
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#70  Edited By VWGTI

It wouldn't be the internet without people bitching about non-issues.

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#71  Edited By JakJ
@Damian said:
" @Khann said:
" @Damian said:
" @Khann said:
" Agreed. This community doesn't need elitist arseholes like him around. "
I can't tell if you're trying to be ironical there or not. "
Wha...? How am I an elitist arsehole? :( "
Didn't mean to judging you personally. Just saying "Let's get (insert type of people) out of here" sounds a bit ... lynchy. This thread's obviously gone to crap. The OP was just groaning out loud. Nothing major, and people jumped down his throat. Then he proceeded to put his foot in his mouth a bit (this is the internet, and we all do it sometimes). And his throat got a lot wider.I just think this thread is getting a little too "serious businessy" is all. Ads are here on vids for Americans. Some people seem allergic to advertising. It's no big deal either way. Right? "
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Everbody has bad days (or nights, in this case), and puts their foot in their mouth on the internet. You guys just happen to see my turn at it.
 
As Damian said, this is just a groan. As I tried to explain it's not the ads right now, it's where these ads might go (hence the title of the thread), and thought we should have a discussion about which ads we as users of the site would rather see. Did I phrase it the best way? No, not at all.  Should I have kept my mouth shut and just ignored some posts? Duh, of course. 
 
Thanks to all the people who made an honest effort at expressing your views in this thread, sorry I let a few haters get me so far (and embarrassingly) off track. My bad.
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#72  Edited By ManlyBeast

Somebody gotta pay the bills.

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#73  Edited By penguindust

Personally, I'd rather see an ad for a game than another Sprite commercial (I'm looking at you Gametrailers!)  And, so far I haven't seen any ads here on GB, but I don't mind if they drop them in to the videos.  The site is great and deserves to make money so Jeff and Ryan can buy solid gold yachts.  

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#74  Edited By Suicrat
@JakJ:
Just thought I'd throw in my two cents.

Giant Bomb, with the help of Quantcast, tracks the demography of this website extensively. As this demographic data is collated, they submit it to advertisers who are looking for specific demographics.

It is very easy to say "Why are they selling me video games? Why not pizza and nachos and beer and tampons?" Well, advertising doesn't grow on trees, you can't just pick and choose the advertisers you want, only those willing to give you money are going to advertise, and right now it seems only to be video game publishers.

If I remember correctly, during a bombcast a little over a year ago, Jeff talked about not necessarily having video game ads on their site, that they'd want to pursue other avenues primarily. Well, unfortunately the advertising market started to dry up as the recession took hold, so at this point one can't be very selective about advertisers, since there is only a limited supply.

JakJ, try as you might to "hold them to their word", their word was dependent on the money of other people, prior to the economic collapse, and so with the changing situation, they've had to change their approach.
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#75  Edited By kirisame
@JakJ: Good recovery. Now that you've made your point clearer, it makes more sense.
Personally, I don't find the current ads annoying because I prefer pre-load video ads to banner ads. I really hate banner ads, especially animated ones. But of course if the ads became more and more frequent, or if they became longer..
On the topic of [which kinds of ads are best]: While we users of GiantBomb could probably receive ads for all sorts of different products, from food to futons, I think the best ads for this site would be ads for videogame products, or computer products. It probably brings up bad memories of other videogame sites though, doesn't it? That whole conflict between ads and coverage/reviews.
 
But when you're about to watch a website video about a videogame, and you have to watch an advertisement first, I think that a commercial for a videogame is somehow the easiest. Your, um.. (how to say) your brain doesn't have to switch over and then switch back? Sorry if that doesn't make sense.
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#76  Edited By MikkaQ

Yeah or use an Ip hide or something if you're that concerned about 10 seconds. I'm just glad I don't get 'em being from canada n' all.  I don't even see the banner ads. Probably an ad blocker or something I have. Either way I don't mind. 

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#77  Edited By grawly

10 seconds, I doubt your life is that exciting that 10 seconds is important.

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#78  Edited By Warfare

They need to eat to.

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#79  Edited By HAMMERCLAW

Crass commercialism on GiantBomb? Oh, HAMBURGERS!
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#80  Edited By buzz_clik
@JakJ: Hell, I'm willing to admit I was being a bit jerky to you. Stepping into the Hindsight-O-Matic™, I think I was just reacting to your reaction to other people's reactions.
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#81  Edited By Sabata

Ads like this really boggle my mind.  I mean, I'm all for the GB guys getting money, but....why the fuck do advertisers think these ads work?  Almost everyone who watches them is either not going to give a fuck about whatever is being advertised or is going to be annoyed by the advertisement and refuse to buy the product out of spite.  So why do they do it?

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#82  Edited By JakJ
@buzz_clik: Don't worry about it man. It was a bad scene for everyone involved. I was in a bad mood and reacting to people I should have just ignored in ways that only made the situation worse, dragging everyone down. I'm just glad to see things have settled now and we can get some real discussion done, or just let this die off and try again with out a 2 page layer of bullshit on top  =)
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#83  Edited By MikkaQ
@Sabata said:
" Ads like this really boggle my mind.  I mean, I'm all for the GB guys getting money, but....why the fuck do advertisers think these ads work?  Almost everyone who watches them is either not going to give a fuck about whatever is being advertised or is going to be annoyed by the advertisement and refuse to buy the product out of spite.  So why do they do it? "
 
 
Because even showing a glimpse of a product puts it in your head. You could be at a game store thinking "hey the trailer for this game WAS pretty cool, maybe I'll get it". As long as they have you thinking of the game, they won.
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#84  Edited By Kohe321

It's good that they are making money.