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Posted by whyareyoucrouchingspock (975 posts) -

Japan is known for a lot in the Western world, especially on the internet, rape, being nuked, and cartoon drawings of girls of a questionable looking age. All these things resonate with the Western culture, indeed it is even difficult to go to a forum where teenage boys exist that don't have badly drawn anime girls, dressed like some sort of space prostitute. One such Japanese inspired creation also predominant with young adults, is Metal Gear Solid.

To many, Metal Gear Solid represents the pinnacle of gaming, unrivaled story, that is expertly crafting by Hideo Kojima, the creative mastermind behind the series. Indeed these young adults tend to be quite passionate about it, obnoxiously so.

Hero

I have taken it upon myself to create this blog, demonstrating a small part of the depth, the complexity of writing and thought put into Metal Gear Solid, my ultimate hope through this, is that we all gain a better insight not only into Metal Gear Solid but the thought provoking Hideo Kojima himself. Given this is a huge undertaking and due to his genius, which is very, very large in nature.I will put it in comprehensible terms, for those who may not have necessarily played through the masterpieces like me by simply taking a segment, as opposed to attempting to examine it on a whole.

We will start off with Metal Gear Solid 3.

The selected clip is taken as the example.

The opening explained We have ran into a few snags, these guys were after Sokolov too apparently they were taking orders from a grue colonel named Vulgin.

We have established people are after him, in particular someone named Volgin.

Boss walks out with two boxes, drops one and nearly knocks Sokolov off the bridge, she does this twice. We have established she is bad. She explains Sokolov comes with me.

We have established she wants Sokolov with ill intent.

She is surrounded by bee's. which proceed irritate snake and take Sokolov, she looks up at the helicopter explaining my friends, let us fight together again.

he has ill intent, not only wants Sokolov, but has now taken him by force with an unknown party she called friends who she will fight alongside.

She addresses colonel Volgin i.e. the bad fellow after him calmly retorting... Welcome to my country, and to my unit!

We have now established, ill intent, wanting and taking Sokolov by force with unknown comrades we now know is colonel Volgins unit (to which the boss and the Cobra unit are now apart of, obviously).

Boss, what is this? Snake retorts, while dribbling.

I'm defecting to the Soviet union you absolute fucking retard she replies explaining she is GIVING Volgin nuclear warheads.

After picking up the warheads Volgin asks Are we talking him with us? to Which she replies No.

Super secret well written non-retard logical man snake retorts What are you talking about?

She attacks him, breaks his gun then proceeded to break his arm.

Afterwords.... Volgin explains he's seen my face, we can't let him live... he must die to which The Boss explains she will take care of him.

She puts out her hand in friendship hoping Snake will be badly written enough to take it... Ignoring the fact she has defected, taken Sokolov forcefully without permission, joined Volgin, gave him nukes, broke his arm, and implied she will kill him for Volgan.

Thankfully, Snake realizes this is dumb and runs away, as he doesn't want thrown off a bridge, the game gets canceled due to obvious mediocrity, and Hideo Kojima shoots himself in the mouth.

Another example, Metal Gear Solid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd-p7oKMj8w

Revolver Ocelot (Revolver Ocelot)

1. We are introduced to Special Operations Fox Hound (REVOLVER) Ocelot. (REVOLVER) himself refers to himself as (REVOLVER).

2. (REVOLVER) has a gun, it's a (REVOLVER).

3. (REVOLVER) explains while skillfully flicking his (REVOLVER) around, that his (REVOLVER), is the greatest handgun ever made, Six Bullets, more than enough to Kill Anything that moves.

4. After (REVOLVER) introducing himself as (REVOLVER) Ocelot, waving around his (REVOLVER) and explaining why his (REVOLVER) is the greatest handgun ever made, (REVOLVER) explains... that he will show you why they call (REVOLVER), (REVOLVER).

Shakespearean

A lot of games have terrible writing and story. Anybody who plays video games can tell you this fact. What annoys me personally (IMO) is just how smug the games are. How smug the fans are. How smug the gaming media are about without actually being objective (like me). As a young fellow I recall playing titles like Homeworld and Planescape Torment. Superior titles with superior writing and story-telling. Homeworld, sadly, has been all but forgotten. I have to sit on many gaming forums listening to 15 year olds and reading nonsense with IGN and gamespot claiming these games are masterpieces of the medium. When many aspects (particularly this Metal Gear Solid 4) are terrible. Encurage these younger gamers to ignore this nonsense and purchase Planescape Torment from GOG.com or hunt amazon for Homeworld I feel gaming would improve. Even if only for a little bit, it will be worth it.

True Masterpiece
#1 Edited by whyareyoucrouchingspock (975 posts) -

Japan is known for a lot in the Western world, especially on the internet, rape, being nuked, and cartoon drawings of girls of a questionable looking age. All these things resonate with the Western culture, indeed it is even difficult to go to a forum where teenage boys exist that don't have badly drawn anime girls, dressed like some sort of space prostitute. One such Japanese inspired creation also predominant with young adults, is Metal Gear Solid.

To many, Metal Gear Solid represents the pinnacle of gaming, unrivaled story, that is expertly crafting by Hideo Kojima, the creative mastermind behind the series. Indeed these young adults tend to be quite passionate about it, obnoxiously so.

Hero

I have taken it upon myself to create this blog, demonstrating a small part of the depth, the complexity of writing and thought put into Metal Gear Solid, my ultimate hope through this, is that we all gain a better insight not only into Metal Gear Solid but the thought provoking Hideo Kojima himself. Given this is a huge undertaking and due to his genius, which is very, very large in nature.I will put it in comprehensible terms, for those who may not have necessarily played through the masterpieces like me by simply taking a segment, as opposed to attempting to examine it on a whole.

We will start off with Metal Gear Solid 3.

The selected clip is taken as the example.

The opening explained We have ran into a few snags, these guys were after Sokolov too apparently they were taking orders from a grue colonel named Vulgin.

We have established people are after him, in particular someone named Volgin.

Boss walks out with two boxes, drops one and nearly knocks Sokolov off the bridge, she does this twice. We have established she is bad. She explains Sokolov comes with me.

We have established she wants Sokolov with ill intent.

She is surrounded by bee's. which proceed irritate snake and take Sokolov, she looks up at the helicopter explaining my friends, let us fight together again.

he has ill intent, not only wants Sokolov, but has now taken him by force with an unknown party she called friends who she will fight alongside.

She addresses colonel Volgin i.e. the bad fellow after him calmly retorting... Welcome to my country, and to my unit!

We have now established, ill intent, wanting and taking Sokolov by force with unknown comrades we now know is colonel Volgins unit (to which the boss and the Cobra unit are now apart of, obviously).

Boss, what is this? Snake retorts, while dribbling.

I'm defecting to the Soviet union you absolute fucking retard she replies explaining she is GIVING Volgin nuclear warheads.

After picking up the warheads Volgin asks Are we talking him with us? to Which she replies No.

Super secret well written non-retard logical man snake retorts What are you talking about?

She attacks him, breaks his gun then proceeded to break his arm.

Afterwords.... Volgin explains he's seen my face, we can't let him live... he must die to which The Boss explains she will take care of him.

She puts out her hand in friendship hoping Snake will be badly written enough to take it... Ignoring the fact she has defected, taken Sokolov forcefully without permission, joined Volgin, gave him nukes, broke his arm, and implied she will kill him for Volgan.

Thankfully, Snake realizes this is dumb and runs away, as he doesn't want thrown off a bridge, the game gets canceled due to obvious mediocrity, and Hideo Kojima shoots himself in the mouth.

Another example, Metal Gear Solid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd-p7oKMj8w

Revolver Ocelot (Revolver Ocelot)

1. We are introduced to Special Operations Fox Hound (REVOLVER) Ocelot. (REVOLVER) himself refers to himself as (REVOLVER).

2. (REVOLVER) has a gun, it's a (REVOLVER).

3. (REVOLVER) explains while skillfully flicking his (REVOLVER) around, that his (REVOLVER), is the greatest handgun ever made, Six Bullets, more than enough to Kill Anything that moves.

4. After (REVOLVER) introducing himself as (REVOLVER) Ocelot, waving around his (REVOLVER) and explaining why his (REVOLVER) is the greatest handgun ever made, (REVOLVER) explains... that he will show you why they call (REVOLVER), (REVOLVER).

Shakespearean

A lot of games have terrible writing and story. Anybody who plays video games can tell you this fact. What annoys me personally (IMO) is just how smug the games are. How smug the fans are. How smug the gaming media are about without actually being objective (like me). As a young fellow I recall playing titles like Homeworld and Planescape Torment. Superior titles with superior writing and story-telling. Homeworld, sadly, has been all but forgotten. I have to sit on many gaming forums listening to 15 year olds and reading nonsense with IGN and gamespot claiming these games are masterpieces of the medium. When many aspects (particularly this Metal Gear Solid 4) are terrible. Encurage these younger gamers to ignore this nonsense and purchase Planescape Torment from GOG.com or hunt amazon for Homeworld I feel gaming would improve. Even if only for a little bit, it will be worth it.

True Masterpiece
#2 Edited by laserbolts (5317 posts) -

Here we go again. I do think Hideo Kojima is overrated as all hell but i'll just leave it at that.

#3 Posted by MethodMan008 (809 posts) -

Your need to publicly show your hatred of Kojima annoys me.

#4 Posted by EXTomar (4636 posts) -

Huh...I wish had something to say about this but I'm shocked. I mean who referres to to their past self as "young fellow"?

#5 Edited by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

Casual racism against Asian cultures is a great way to begin a topic!

These threads make Jay seem like Hemingway.

#6 Posted by Cincaid (2955 posts) -

@laserbolts said:

I do think Hideo Kojima is overrated as all hell

Yep. Wouldn't occur to me to write a blog about it though.

#7 Edited by whyareyoucrouchingspock (975 posts) -

@Cincaid said:

@laserbolts said:

I do think Hideo Kojima is overrated as all hell

Yep. Wouldn't occur to me to write a blog about it though.

You should. It's better to explain why than just make a blank statement. I hate when people do that. They do it all the time on gamespot user reviews. Very annoying.

#8 Posted by Svenzon (718 posts) -

Kojima is a terrible writer, yes. But I'd rather play MGS3 again than torment myself with Planescape.

#9 Edited by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

@Svenzon said:

Kojima is a terrible writer, yes. But I'd rather play MGS3 again than torment myself with Planescape.

Aaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwww SNAP, dawg!

#10 Posted by EXTomar (4636 posts) -

I do wonder what the next glorious topic will be. My guess: How much unrecognized genious there was in Klax.

#11 Posted by Cloudenvy (5891 posts) -

@Ravenlight said:

@Svenzon said:

Kojima is a terrible writer, yes. But I'd rather play MGS3 again than torment myself with Planescape.

Aaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwww SNAP, dawg!

BOOM!

#12 Posted by Herocide (440 posts) -

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

I have to sit on many gaming forums listening to 15 year olds and reading nonsense with IGN and gamespot claiming these games are masterpieces of the medium.

No you don't.

#13 Posted by IBurningStar (2161 posts) -

You and Jay are the same person, right?

#14 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7071 posts) -

@Herocide said:

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

I have to sit on many gaming forums listening to 15 year olds and reading nonsense with IGN and gamespot claiming these games are masterpieces of the medium.

No you don't.

Yeah, it's actually the other way around. Seems like Spock makes the 15-year-olds read his nonsense about how Shogun 2 cures all worldly ailments while simultaneously teaching children in impoverished nations how to read.

Online
#15 Posted by Cincaid (2955 posts) -

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

@Cincaid said:

@laserbolts said:

I do think Hideo Kojima is overrated as all hell

Yep. Wouldn't occur to me to write a blog about it though.

You should. It's better to explain why than just make a blank statement. I hate when people do that. They do it all the time on gamespot user reviews. Very annoying.

I agree with making blank statements, but I very rarely do (well, except just now I guess). I'm just not into the whole "listen-to-me-while-I-explain-why-I'm-right-and-you're-wrong"-blogging.

#16 Posted by fisher81 (535 posts) -

someone is butthurt on the internet again

#17 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7071 posts) -

@fisher81 said:

someone is butthurt on the internet again

He's never not.

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#18 Posted by believer258 (11775 posts) -
A lot of games have terrible writing and story. Anybody who plays video games can tell you this fact. What annoys me personally (IMO) is just how smug the games are. How smug the fans are. How smug the gaming media are about without actually being objective (like me). As a young fellow I recall playing titles like Homeworld and Planescape Torment. Superior titles with superior writing and story-telling.

Pretty much everything you post is very smug. You even said "like me" when talking about objectivity. I'm no fan of Kojima but I don't see his fans putting down other games and raising their favorites up. In fact, all I see his fans doing are enjoying the hell out of his games. He must have done something right.

@IBurningStar said:

You and Jay are the same person, right?

Jay has never shown any measure of brightness, but I don't remember him showing any measure of undeserved over-the-top self-centeredness either.

#19 Posted by Muttinus_Rump (814 posts) -

At least this guy livens up the forums.

#20 Posted by WMWA (1160 posts) -

"Get off my lawn"

#21 Posted by AlexW00d (6231 posts) -

I tried to read the blog and see why spock hates Kojima, but I really can't see the points? Also, how can someone spell a 6 letter word three different ways in one paragraph?

#22 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

Japan is known for a lot in the Western world, especially on the internet, rape, being nuked, and cartoon drawings of girls of a questionable looking age.

One sentence in, and I already hate it.

#23 Edited by pyromagnestir (4283 posts) -

I haven't played his other games, but the Metal Gear Solid games are my kind of crazy. 3 and 2 were both brilliant, I actually never played the first (never had a playstation) but I did play Twin Snakes and that was cool too. Haven't got around to playing 4 yet, as at this point I'm saving it, like one might with a bottle of champagne or something, for a the right occasion. However unless you are visiting MGS boards or something I don't know where you are seeing these 15 year olds spout this stuff which annoys you so much. (also I'm 25) Is his writing hammy? Sure. He's not the one translating it so maybe some of that's added in the translation process, I don't know, but it's fun hammy (I think) and his voice is fairly unique in the gaming world.

#24 Posted by TheHBK (5471 posts) -

I am with you. Some people find his exaggerating situations and characters and entertaining, but it is maddening how lazy and unplanned his writing actually is. Here are some issues I have with the MGS stories and why I feel so let down because I actually liked the first one despite it being a little over the top.

1) It is way too obvious he just wrote these stories as he went along, trying to explain away things and never really growing the circle of characters. I really can't get into a story about saving the world and war when it is the same group of friends who decide the fate of the world.

2) Stupid story elements that he clearly did not think through. A Vampire, who we are told is gay for no reason, except that he was a military commander's lover but that had no bearing on the story either. A hand taking over Revolver's body. Fortune crying all the time and suddenly becomes Magneto at the end of MGS2.

3) Otacon... cries... alll... the... fucking... time...

4) The Patriots are just the guys you worked with in MGS3??? That's it? Those are the people we are supposed to believe rule the whole country?

5) Big Boss is alive, yet again... frankenstein technology.

6) Raiden is nothing but a moping emo piece of shit.

7) Nanomachines did it all. He even uses them to explain why that soldier has to take a dump all the time! That is just as bad as the midichlorians in Star Wars.

#25 Posted by Doctorchimp (4074 posts) -

@whyareyoucrouchingspock: Do you have "asinine" tattooed on your chest?

#26 Posted by FreakAche (2951 posts) -

But why is Spock crouching?

#27 Posted by Rockbrain (8 posts) -

@ whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

How smug the gaming media are about without actually being objective (like me).

You're right. You are smug without being objective. Your post was dumb. You are complaining that you don't like a silly game with a thousand loopholes (and the people who enjoy it) because it isn't serious enough for you.

@ whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

Japan is known for a lot in the Western world, especially on the internet, rape, being nuked, and cartoon drawings of girls of a questionable looking age.

Go suck it, xenophobe.

#28 Posted by EarlessShrimp (1632 posts) -

I can explain this thread in two words: The Internet.

#29 Posted by Cloudenvy (5891 posts) -

@FreakAche said:

But why is Spock crouching?

Because Total War is the best game ever.

#30 Posted by CookieMonster (2416 posts) -
#31 Posted by notdavid (836 posts) -

Meh. It's a good thing I can still enjoy things without your authorization.

#32 Posted by The_Nubster (2090 posts) -

That's the most casually racist, self-important and ignorant thing I've read in a long while. Also, the formatting offends me. Good day, sir.

#33 Posted by TentPole (1858 posts) -

No good quicklooks so the most fun I can have on Giant Bomb is eating pizza and reading spock.

#34 Posted by TheKramer89 (423 posts) -

But I like Metal Gear Solid.

#35 Posted by Nekroskop (2786 posts) -

*Updated my journal*

#36 Posted by Fattony12000 (7269 posts) -

REVOLVER REVOLVER

#37 Posted by Demoskinos (14730 posts) -

You are the single biggest fucking idiot on this site. You never ever make sense. Japan known for rape? Really? Go look at some actual statistics and you'll see there are dozens upon dozens of countries with higher sexual crime rates than japan. You speak out of your ass like your a prophet but all you are are a shit stain on giantbomb. GO. THE. FUCK. AWAY.

#38 Posted by jonano (364 posts) -

Wow first sentence what Japan is known for " rape, being nuked, and cartoon drawings of girls of a questionable looking age" not a good start .

#39 Edited by whyareyoucrouchingspock (975 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

You are the single biggest fucking idiot on this site. You never ever make sense. Japan known for rape? Really?

Yea, Nanking.

#40 Posted by TheHumanDove (2523 posts) -

Another classic Jay thread

#41 Posted by Nekroskop (2786 posts) -

I thought Jay was banned forever.

#42 Edited by Animasta (14667 posts) -

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

@Demoskinos said:

You are the single biggest fucking idiot on this site. You never ever make sense. Japan known for rape? Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

nope, that was literally 85 years ago. fuck off you racist piece of shit

#43 Posted by notdavid (836 posts) -

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

@Demoskinos said:

You are the single biggest fucking idiot on this site. You never ever make sense. Japan known for rape? Really?

Yea, Nanking.

He's right, you know. Hideo Kojima is personally responsible for the Rape of Nanking.

#44 Edited by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1726 posts) -

#45 Posted by AlexanderSheen (4965 posts) -

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

@Demoskinos said:

You are the single biggest fucking idiot on this site. You never ever make sense. Japan known for rape? Really?

Yea, it was called Nanking.

When did this happen? 1937...

#46 Posted by Demoskinos (14730 posts) -

@whyareyoucrouchingspock: Your point being? That has zero to do with modern japan. Secondly, widespread rape and pillaging isn't hardly a uniquely japanese thing it used to happen all the time when troops would take occupation in cities and in some cases still does. One six week period in japanese history doesn't mean anyone with half a brain would equate japan to criminal sexual acts.

#47 Edited by whyareyoucrouchingspock (975 posts) -

@Animasta said:

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

@Demoskinos said:

You are the single biggest fucking idiot on this site. You never ever make sense. Japan known for rape? Really?

nope, that was literally 75 years ago.

And it's still a politically and socially relevant (and a widely denied event) to this day. Son, you need to do some research. This "it was 75 year ago so who gives a shit" attitude is A) Stupid and B) dismissively offensive. Perhaps I was wrong in assuming the youth of today had wide knowledge of important historical events. I'll give you that. Still....

#48 Posted by stise (89 posts) -

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

I have to sit on many gaming forums listening to 15 year olds and reading nonsense with IGN and gamespot claiming these games are masterpieces of the medium.

No you don't man.

#49 Posted by AlexanderSheen (4965 posts) -

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

@Animasta said:

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

@Demoskinos said:

You are the single biggest fucking idiot on this site. You never ever make sense. Japan known for rape? Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

nope, that was literally 75 years ago.

And it's still a politically and socially relevant (and widely denied event) to this day. Son, you need to do some research. This "it was 75 year ago so who gives a shit" attitude is A) Stupid and B) dismissively offensive.

Dude, your being is dismissively offensive.

#50 Posted by Demoskinos (14730 posts) -

Nihilist Hipster. That is all.