I was watching the show today and during the early segment where Jeff and Ryan were discussing the new membership plan, Jeff mentioned that W.M. wanted to go into business with users so that we can offer suggestions to them on how to spend the money that's coming in. Now, of course they're only ideas but how do you feel the sites can be improved with the much needed seed capital that has rolled in today and throughout the next few weeks? New Staff members? More cables? Share your thoughts.
I know how they will spend it, it would be to pay for the new building they are at now. We are just footing the bill for them, I mean you are. Nothing past what they have established now will be improved, no more staff, not much more news, you will get what they advertised.
"Except I'm getting a Friday live show.
I know how they will spend it, it would be to pay for the new building they are at now. We are just footing the bill for them, I mean you are. Nothing past what they have established now will be improved, no more staff, not much more news, you will get what they advertised."
And I think they should and will spend it on producing more video content/live content in general.
" Lots of alcohol. "WTF I was about to say that and was like screw it I'm not going to read the comments and just post it but I saw your post out of the corner of my eye >< - also well played sir
I was going to add - they might as well waste it on booze since it's not my money they are wasting.
" @LordXavierBritish: I said nothing more than what they advertised now, that includes whatever show they are showing on friday. As a way to say, well we aren't ripping you off that much, you get to at least look at us do stuff. "Your extreme pessimism is trumped only by your infallible ignorance.
If Whiskey has been dedicated to anything, it is constantly supplying its members with new content.
Even if I, as a subscriber, do not get anything new that is exclusive to me I will be happy when Whiskey, and I do mean when, uses the money to continue improving upon the amount of content it supplies within its media family.
And for the record they've said that the new building is cheaper than the pervious set-up. I don't think that is what they need the money for.
Look if you subscribe to that theory, then good for you, if I want podcast or live feed, i'll just go to watch gametrailers if I need HD videos or industry related interviews or content, which you are paying for here. If I want that t-shirt, I can probally make one myself, if I cared to, which I don't. I don't think the money is going towards any new content or new staff. Time will tell, also I am not here to change your mind, I am here to speak my mind and replying to you is a way to do that, then whatever.
Yeah, it's a bidness. They need to make money.
They used to only make money through ads, and they'd appreciate it if you didn't ignore their only line of revenue.
They are expanding and need money, so they are basically asking for donations with perks.
I'm not paying for new content. I'm giving them my money so that they have the opportunity to produce new content. They have always strived to put out as much new shit as possible, and if they need some extra funds to continue doing bigger and better things then I'm completely okay with that. Hell, I would have given them $50 if they were just giving out T-Shirts as a consolation. Giantbomb in particular is pretty much the only large safe haven left for real game's journalism left and they did that by setting out to make a site that wasn't tied down by PR bullshit and company policies.
There is absolutely no rational behind the notion that Whiskey is using this as an opportunity to pay off debts.
There are no signs, they aren't ripping me off because they fucked up and ended up with a building they couldn't afford. There is no evidence of that at all and you are just cooking up a new conspiracy theory because that's all you do.
And I'm not here to change your mind, I'm just here to prove you wrong because it makes me feel fuzzy inside.
I don't blame them, they should of done this years ago, however $50 for this, is asking alot for trinkets and I don't think they are going to produce any newer content when what they already advertised now with the money. However where will the money go? Well, that's a good question, I provided possible answers based on patterns, none of us knows for sure, however ppl are allowed to speculate.
Let's look at the real facts:
1. Whiskey has shown a habit of always working on new content. That's why they have such a large engineering team.
2. In the last year alone Whiskey has introduced Quests, two entire damn sites, and shit ton more.
3. Even now there is talk amongst the various Whiskey staff as to how the money will be spent, none of it involving paying off the building. Maybe if you took the time to look shit up instead of assuming and "following patterns" you would know this.
What is that amount? $200,000 to $250,000. It obviously don't cost that much to produce new content, so what might cost that much? Perhaps the other half of a mortgage? They need about that much, what else can it be? Adds are enough to pay for everyone working there it seems, however what can it be?
Tested brings alot of new content to the site. The quest system, after that guy finished implemented the quest system, they fired him. Like I said, you didn't really explain where $250,000 will go.
Also what new content? A new show? at least tested puts out constantly new content. I don't remember getting a ton of reviews lately or alot of new content, except from brad nicolson with his articles.
" @LordXavierBritish: I like to add one more thing that supports my theory. Of course I can only speculate, the newest tweet said if they can raise 5000 subscribers, let's say on the best case scenario, that's $50 per person. It might give you an idea of exactly how much money they need to raise. What is that amount? $200,000 to $250,000. It obviously don't cost that much to produce new content, so what might cost that much? Perhaps the other half of a mortgage? They need about that much, what else can it be? Adds are enough to pay for everyone working there it seems, however what can it be? Tested brings alot of new content to the site. The quest system, after that guy finished implemented the quest system, they fired him. Like I said, you didn't really explain where $250,000 will go. Also what new content? A new show? at least tested puts out constantly new content. I don't remember getting a ton of reviews lately or alot of new content, except from brad nicolson. "Y'know, they all have salaries as well. They can't live off venture capital forever.
Because they aren't requiring people to pay.
They are saying that they won't monetize the Bombcast if they get that much. I would assume that if they reached that amount they wouldn't suffer from whatever kind of detriment the Bombcast causes on a weekly basis to office productivity.
Or you can just assume that they are liars, but that would be a rash and ignorant conclusion to make.
And if a majority the subscriptions are $5, as I'm sure most people who are creating a subscription service would assume that customers would like to try out a service for a month before committing to it, it would come out at its lowest to about $25,000. You don't pay off a building with $25,000, or even $50,000.
See, I can do math too.
Oh yeah, and ads don't make that much money. Ads keep them not jobless. You'd know that too if you bothered to do any research.
Yeah, you guys know that Whiskey Media sites are funded a lot off of investments, and the people investing in their websites want to see something profitable come out of those websites, seeing as they put their money and trust behind them. It's almost just an honor system, something you don't see a lot on video game website subscriptions -- they're being as transparent as possible. They know a lot of people are just subscribing because they love Giant Bomb and want to support in whatever way they can. And that's totally fine. The podcast catch is just an incentive, a pretty valuable one from what I can tell.
More video content, worth the 50 a month... and my t shirt with Ryan barfing !! I'm paying for their freedom to write what ever the fuck they want about any fucking game... i'm paying to get the best game journalism there is right now. maybe in a few years this will turn into a corporate monster but for now i want to keep the site honest and real.
I say ppl who subscribed should make demands, like more strippers or more pc gaming coverage.
That's just your opinion that's wrong unless you prove me wrong with facts. (taken from your profile bro)
" @DrPockets000: I don't need youtube videos, look at their twitter, one of them said if they can raise 5000 subscribers, then the bombcast is going to be free. Also I can cross reference the times of all these annoucements to show a pattern. They need $250,000. I say ppl who subscribed should make demands, like more strippers or more pc gaming coverage. "
I will counter cross-reference you by pointing out that the subscriptions support all of Whiskey, not just Giant Bomb. They had been talking about this subscription since before the move, and now they are all housed in one significantly cheaper building as opposed to several which together were getting too expensive. I have proof for that too. 5 buildings cost more than one. It's economics!
" @lordofultima: I see a ton of gold names. Also I never made a t-shirt before, i'm sure it's not that expensive. Of course you have shipping to consider I suppose, you at least get a shirt for $5, that's not a terrible deal for a month I guess. "Wow, you sure have done your research.