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#1 Edited by liquidmatt (230 posts) -

This is Howard Stern discussing "gamers", with soundbites and a mass amount of ignorance;

  

 
The question is; how right/wrong is he?

Personally, I believe video games are the natural progression of media (now accounting for 60% of the industry) and deserve to be accepted as the next evolution of storytelling, just as literature sprang from spoken stories and a large amount of television and film comes from literature.
Obviously being on a gaming site I expect the majority of you to agree with this, but it makes for an interesting listen all the same. His ridiculous mocking of "gamers" is unjustified, although it has to be said the soundbites he presents seem to have been selected as the most stereotypical "gamer" attributes - not knowing what an income is, or dressing as a character.

Coming from the UK, I've never listened to Stern before (he's an American radio host as far as I know, my knowledge ends at that) but he seems to be a real asshole.

Is he just trolling? What are GB's thoughts on the views of those such as Stern or in the general public/media?
Do you go out and show your geeky side? Or do you hide it away in "your parent's basement"?

EDIT: Put every instance of the word "gamer" in quotemarks to please those who seem to take offence at it's use.
#2 Posted by Yummylee (21242 posts) -

Has to be a joke, surely? Or the interviewer purposely chose the most dweeby gamers with the most annoying voices to further his point.. I mean Jesus, the fourth guy sounds like Plinkett from RedLetterMedia. Either that or the interviews were a parody and Stern's just being a gullible dummy.

#3 Posted by liquidmatt (230 posts) -

That's why I ask about Stern, I've only heard this from him but he just seems to be an older generation host who can't accept change. It's almost embarrassing his obsession with mocking the interviewees, even if one/several of the guys sounds like cartoon characters. Plus his comments about being unable to make a living from video games - the explosion in recent years of reviewers, sites and even tournaments revolving around video games totally voids his credibility.

And, as I mentioned before, he just sounds like a douche.

#4 Posted by Tennmuerti (7997 posts) -

Why should I care about his opinion?

#5 Posted by Yummylee (21242 posts) -

I think he's just another guy that likes to start up shitstorms of ignorance for more listeners--most notably people who would be pissed off by his talk. Kinda like that Glenn Beck, and if anything this is almost an exact replica of that very radio session about Glenn Beck pissing on gamers. So yeah... trolling for fame basically.

#6 Posted by Goly (843 posts) -

Howard's Stern job is as important as AVGN's. They're not contributing to society except entertaining people and that's fine by me, but Stern shouldn't be acting like he's doing the most important thing in the world. He's in the same fucking category. 

#7 Posted by Jolt92 (1542 posts) -

Sounds like he's douching it up pretty badly. They're not well-informed, and the guys they interviewed hopefully aren't representative of the audience of the medium as a whole.

And yeah, I'm not sure he knows if these people have a job or are building a career and stuff like that. And Howard Stern? He's not doing the most noble thing in the world, just entertainment. He could be a teacher or something important instead. Sex ed, probably.

#8 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7240 posts) -

Is that what people think about ''gamers''? I really hope not. :(

#9 Edited by PenguinDust (12450 posts) -

Stern is a radio comedian of sorts.  He's one of the original "shock jocks" and earns a living by being controversial but in a jocular way.   Everything is satire to a certain extent, so I don't take any of it seriously.  How can you when his favorite guests are strippers and porn stars?   Stern takes the role of ignorant (liberal) mainstream America, and plays to the man on the street driving to work in the morning.  It's almost a high school jock attitude but even those guys play Halo and COD these days.  If you're going to lampoon gamers, what better place than a video game convention?  It could have easily been a comic book, Star Wars/Star Trek, anime or any other niche culture.  It's Stern's job to mock everything.   

 
An interesting note is "Wombat" of the Cheapassgamer.com podcast, The CAGcast, used to work for Howard Stern and recently, he and CAG creator, "Cheapy D" were invited on the show after they won a charity auction.  Stern made fun of them, too like he does everyone.  Of course, those are two married with children guys who earn a decent living, so that negates Stern's overall portrayal of gamers.  Like I said, it's all meant to be a joke. 


#10 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

YOU LAUGH NOW, BUT IN 50 YEARS GAMERS AND NERDS WILL RULE THE WORLD!

GAMERS UNITE!

#11 Edited by avantegardener (1108 posts) -

Ugh, why are my people always represented by the worst examples of them. It's annoying to listen to this uniformed drivel, but hey, it's for entertainment purposes.

#12 Posted by JasonR86 (9604 posts) -

Howard Stern's entire career has been based around trolling.  This isn't any different.

#13 Posted by swamplord666 (1757 posts) -

Oh wow, they have nothing better to do than to stereotype gamers and take the worst random sound bytes and make fun of them? they are sadder than the people they're making fun of.

#14 Posted by me3639 (1725 posts) -

I listen to Howard every day. I think its funny when he attacks specific groups such as gamers, becasue he is a gamer and geek himself. He plays chess every day, and is a huge comic book nut(He loves Superman and Batman). I dont think he has ever played a game, but if he did i have a feeling he would be hooked.

#15 Posted by GreggD (4477 posts) -

Dude used to play a lot of video games. It's probably just for listeners. I used to listen to his show a lot, and one of his best segments was sending his people to Star Trek and comic book conventions, and interviewing cosplayers. Shit is generally hilarious.

#16 Posted by XenoNick (1390 posts) -

Asshole.

#17 Posted by RYNO9881 (625 posts) -
@avantegardener said:
" Ugh, why are my people always represented by the worst examples of them. It's annoying to listen to this uniformed drivel, but hey, it's for entertainment purposes. "
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say every group whether it be people who play games or something else completely, are represented by the worst people in those groups.
#18 Posted by harvey_the_pooka (271 posts) -

This sounds like it´s a fake

#19 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -

I'm not going to listen to it, but I can tell you that Howard Stern is in fact an asshole.  Regardless of his opinions on gamers.

#20 Posted by Scarlet_Rogue (497 posts) -
@JasonR86 said:
" Howard Stern's entire career has been based around trolling.  This isn't any different. "
Basically. I like howard but part of his appeal is his reaction to things he's ignorant about.

Look at that recently cancelled show Breaking In. The "gamer" on that show is how media (and the public that absorbs it) views gamers in general.
#21 Posted by Guided_By_Tigers (8061 posts) -

What's up with people caring so much about what people outside of the video game industry have to say about video games?

#22 Posted by Sanj (2352 posts) -

Yeah, guy's an asshole.

#23 Edited by PaulM (144 posts) -
@harvey_the_pooka said:

" This sounds like it´s a fake "

no thats what  Howard Stern does he finds sad or awkward people and makes fun of them some times its funny but a lot of the times he just kind of picks on people
#24 Edited by Guided_By_Tigers (8061 posts) -

There is more ignorance in this thread than in the video.

#25 Posted by blueduck (964 posts) -

Stop calling yourselves "gamers"

#26 Posted by Tru3_Blu3 (3184 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" Is that what people think about ''gamers''? I really hope not. :( "
#27 Posted by DAFTPUNK (1213 posts) -
@TheDudeOfGaming: ughhhhhh I'll pass
#28 Posted by habster3 (3595 posts) -

The more we respond to these discussions and rants, the more we feed the flame. Just let people like Stern be assholes and ignore their statements.

#29 Posted by Vonocourt (2116 posts) -

For such a easy target, he seems to be kind of reaching for straws here. Talking about the music at a convention?

#30 Posted by WoodenPlatypus (1365 posts) -
@TheDudeOfGaming said:
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YOU LAUGH NOW, BUT IN 50 YEARS GAMERS AND NERDS WILL RULE THE WORLD!

GAMERS UNITE!

"


I loled and could only think of Might Morphin Power Rangers there.

 

The mans an idiot and thinks way too highly of himself...

#31 Edited by ProfessorEss (7278 posts) -

M'eh it's his shtick.

To be fair he does mention what a loser he was in school playing cards while everyone else was out partying.

I thought it was pretty funny.

#32 Posted by UncleClassy (405 posts) -

To me it basically seems like he picked out the biggest losers of the bunch he interviewed in order to make his point. People unfortunately do that kind of shit all the time.
I guess it's either that, or a lot of the people who go to game conventions are actually basement dwelling neckbeards like he makes them out to be. But either way, neither example is truly representative of the majority of who people who play video games.

#33 Posted by avantegardener (1108 posts) -
@RYNO9881 said:
" @avantegardener said:
" Ugh, why are my people always represented by the worst examples of them. It's annoying to listen to this uniformed drivel, but hey, it's for entertainment purposes. "
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say every group whether it be people who play games or something else completely, are represented by the worst people in those groups. "
You might have a point there.
#34 Posted by Vexxan (4615 posts) -
@Tennmuerti said:
" Why should I care about his opinion? "
#35 Posted by gla55jAw (2686 posts) -

Don't listen to that lame ass Stern, listen to Opie and Anthony.

#36 Posted by Lyniz (115 posts) -

Howards Stern has sucked for over 10 years.  Who cares right?

#37 Edited by uniform (1832 posts) -

I don't dislike Stern, in fact I used to love listening to him in the mid-nineties, but that was a long time ago. I didn't watch the clip because I really don't care what his opinion is of people that play video games. Stern's a dinosaur, and from my experience, more often than not, dinosaurs have negative things to say about video games and the act of  "wasting" your time with them. Opinions will change when the dinosaurs die off and a new generation is present.

#38 Edited by JEC03 (898 posts) -

He's out of touch pretty much, I use to watch his show all the time in the 90's It was good sometimes but the dude is a has been now he's just to old and should retire.

#39 Posted by TheSmashing (313 posts) -

Stern is to be ignored like all worthless attention whores

#40 Posted by DoctorLazy (93 posts) -

Turn off Stern, turn on NPR.

#41 Edited by Sticky_Pennies (2019 posts) -

You don't need a ten-minute audio clip to prove that Howard Stern is a trollycunt.

#42 Posted by Meowshi (2911 posts) -
@Unknown_Pleasures said:
" What's up with people caring so much about what people outside of the video game industry have to say about video games? "
It's just sort of shitty that video games are considered pathetic, but movies, television, etc. are not.  They are the exact same fucking thing.

Video games are just better.
#43 Posted by Sticky_Pennies (2019 posts) -
@blueduck said:
" Stop calling yourselves "gamers" "
Also this.
The term "gamers" is something that should be left in the early 2000's, right with leetspeak and YTMND.
#44 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

i remember watching him on E when i was in middle school. it was pretty funny show to watch. it was like him talking on the radio but camera on him.

yes, he is a troll. he is a comedy type of radio person. he is into porn and strippers all the time. they just showed a stereotype of nerd that was there. i'm sure there are people out there that are nerdy that don't act like it. i know a guy that didn't look like he was into video games but we were talking about video games and star wars.

#45 Posted by RE_Player1 (7549 posts) -

That's his job. Do you honestly think he's going to have an intelligent conversation about a topic? Also if you want to be annoyed at something be annoyed at the term gamer. Ugh I would never go out and say," I'm a gamer," you just say you enjoy games like someone enjoys film or music.

#46 Posted by FateOfNever (1814 posts) -

People still listen to Howard Stern?  That saddens me.

#47 Edited by melcene (3056 posts) -

From what I heard, having read the original article dude pulled the video from, I think this is all a joke because Howard Stern fans claim that he's a geek himself.


It's nothing but another attention grab.
#48 Posted by ProfessorK (816 posts) -

Stern's job is to offend and shock his listeners, whomever they might be. Basically he gets millions to be an asshole on the air.


#49 Posted by haggis (1677 posts) -

Video games aren't the next evolution of storytelling, really, and so far I've seen nothing to indicate that games are better at telling stories than any other medium (Ebert may have been wrong about many things concerning games, but he was correct in noting that there is no "Citizen Kane" of video games). That said, listen to what he says and then wander around these boards for awhile. You'll find that a lot of what he says is true of a lot of gamers. Sure, people don't like to be called out on it, but it's true. It's easy to do that sort of snarking about any group of people who share an activity, though, so I'm not sure gamers should take any offense by it given who the criticism is coming from.

I do think that gamers should wonder why people have this particular view of them, though. It's easy to dismiss, but the stereotype is there for a reason.

#50 Posted by MideonNViscera (2257 posts) -

Howard Stern is waaaay too old to know what he's talking about. Plus, he's just a negative douche anyway.