#1 Posted by JazGalaxy (1576 posts) -

Is it not slightly bizarre that Sony is selling a box for several hundred dollars that promises to be the most advanced pc you've had in your living room, and one of the key features is that it can stream PS3 games over the internet? If that works, why not just have a shell like OnLive, and play these super graphically intense games remotely from sony's campus?

#2 Posted by Alekss (327 posts) -

Because they are hoping to make this a reality in a few years, meaning probably towards the end of this generation, so even if they succeed, they still need a dedicated thing until then to compete with Microsoft.

I personally think it will take at least until sometime next generation for cloud gaming to work like a dedicated machine.

#3 Posted by Marcsman (3199 posts) -

So you can say goodbye to the condescending good for nothing start & enter buttons. They have it coming.

#4 Edited by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

uuggg really? .......

#5 Posted by JazGalaxy (1576 posts) -

@alekss said:

Because they are hoping to make this a reality in a few years, meaning probably towards the end of this generation, so even if they succeed, they still need a dedicated thing until then to compete with Microsoft.

I personally think it will take at least until sometime next generation for cloud gaming to work like a dedicated machine.

If that's the case, then people should totally start taking them to task for promoting it as a feature at this point in time when it's just a "vision"...

#6 Posted by Alekss (327 posts) -

@jazgalaxy: They said it's a vision during the Playstation Meeting announcement. All they commited to is that we will be able to stream demos of PS4 games similar to how EA's Origin does, but we won't be able to stream full games for PS4 or the older Playstations.

I think they won't commit to full games because the infrastructure on both their end the consumer's is not there yet. And to be honest streamed games look kinda compressed and a bit laggy so the tehnology still needs to advance.

#7 Posted by OmegaPirate (5522 posts) -

@alekss said:

Because they are hoping to make this a reality in a few years, meaning probably towards the end of this generation, so even if they succeed, they still need a dedicated thing until then to compete with Microsoft.

I personally think it will take at least until sometime next generation for cloud gaming to work like a dedicated machine.

If that's the case, then people should totally start taking them to task for promoting it as a feature at this point in time when it's just a "vision"...

I believe the many times during the conference when he said 'eventually' and 'long term plan' and 'one day we want all games to be playable on all devices regardless of their original platform' And the countless other times you could infer that it was something that would not be at launch, and the fact at no point they said that these features would be available from the get go, are a pretty good indicator as to why no one is taking them to task for it

#8 Posted by natedawg_kz (234 posts) -

To play PS4 games???

#9 Posted by psylah (2177 posts) -
#10 Posted by LordAndrew (14426 posts) -

Silly me, I thought people would want to buy a PS4 to play PS4 games.

#11 Posted by JazGalaxy (1576 posts) -

Silly me, I thought people would want to buy a PS4 to play PS4 games.

Well, very much silly you, then. If the service could stream PS3 games functionally, it could stream PS4,5,10, Infinity games as well.

#12 Posted by DaMisterChief (628 posts) -

Wasnt that stuff going only to be for PS1-PS3 games???

#13 Posted by believer258 (11923 posts) -

I figured it was because they wanted you to see the shiny PS4 games in all their pretty glory, instead of compressed to hell and kinda laggy?

#14 Posted by Azteck (7449 posts) -

@lordandrew said:

Silly me, I thought people would want to buy a PS4 to play PS4 games.

Well, very much silly you, then. If the service could stream PS3 games functionally, it could stream PS4,5,10, Infinity games as well.

Your question makes no sense if this is your problem with it. They still need that hardware in the console and the PS3 simply doesn't. This is not something you can do via software alone, and you most likely won't be able to for a long, long time.

#15 Posted by Reisz (1500 posts) -

In the time frame (what are we thinking here, four years?) that it will take to really get the streaming library and solid tech off the ground, Sony will try to build a good strong subscriber base to whatever premium online service they offer. Once it's viable to run Playstation Air or whatever they're going to call it, they can offer you a streaming library for a paltry charge every month and buying a PS3 will be one way to experience that, whether PS4 games are exclusive to that console or not, I imagine Sony will want owning or buying a PS3 (If they are still being manufactured) to be a completely viable way of accessing that content. Why not? if I we have to pay for the service, it's all money for them.

#16 Edited by Sooty (8082 posts) -

@jazgalaxy said:

Is it not slightly bizarre that Sony is selling a box for several hundred dollars that promises to be the most advanced pc you've had in your living room, and one of the key features is that it can stream PS3 games over the internet? If that works, why not just have a shell like OnLive, and play these super graphically intense games remotely from sony's campus?

Because OnLive/streaming services make multiplayer games unplayable. You are dealing with the latency of you and the streaming service and then the additional online connection of the multiplayer on top.

and fighting games will have a permanent lag even offline, might as well not make fighting games anymore if streaming is the only option. Not as big a deal to have 20-40ms on a first person shooter but that shit doesn't fly in execution and timing heavy games. (so we can include Rock Band here too)

#17 Edited by mellotronrules (1192 posts) -

well- someone should get john sony on the horn and let him know that we figured out that his business model is screwed!

#18 Posted by Branthog (5562 posts) -

@jazgalaxy said:

Is it not slightly bizarre that Sony is selling a box for several hundred dollars that promises to be the most advanced pc you've had in your living room, and one of the key features is that it can stream PS3 games over the internet? If that works, why not just have a shell like OnLive, and play these super graphically intense games remotely from sony's campus?

That isn't one of the key features. That is a feature that might be nice to have, some day and that Sony has said it would like to perfect and release as a feature, some day.