Hey guys, I don't know much about PCs. I had mine built cheap to be able to handle games, but it just isn't cutting it with the release of games like The Witcher 2.
My specs:
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
2.7 GHz CPU
3.0 GB RAM
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition Service Pack 2 (build 6002), 32-bit
GeForce 9500 GT
What aspects of my computer suck (aside from Vista :P), what aspects are good and what do I really need to improve?
If for example, I need a new graphics card, what ones should I buy at a reasonable price (I'm not looking to build a monster rig, just get some affordable upgrades)? Thanks for the help!
Improving my PC Gaming Experience :D
Although you could do with a better graphics card (I don't know your budget), it would be a good idea to overclock your processor or get a new one. Problem with getting a new processor though is that you'll probably need a new motherboard, and therefore also a new set of RAM.
Depending on how cheap you want to be, you could spend around $150-$200 on a new Geforce 460 1GB, or put a couple hundred with it and future proof yourself and buy one in the 500 series. Double check, but I think it's the 580 or 590 that everyone likes. You should also look into grabbing an extra GB of RAM.
@PopUp: Not sure what that converts to in dollars, but if your budget is around $200 I would go pick up an EVGA GTX 460 1 GB. Look around for prices, but newegg.ca has them on for around $200-$220 + $10 shipping. If you can find it cheap, I would try to throw in that extra 1 GB of RAM also. Just make sure it's compatible.Thanks man, but compatible with what? I'm very ignorant about these things, sorry. Also, while I'm at it, when do you need graphics card adapters, and what difference does my resolution make to what I should get?
@crusader8463: No point getting an extra 1GB of RAM, he only has a 32bit OS.
@PopUp: If he is referring to the RAM he means whether the MoBo takes DDR2 or DDR3 RAM. If it's the GPU then I think whether the MoBo has a 16x PCIE-slot. The resolution means you won't need as powerful GPU to handle the graphics.Thanks for all the help. One last question - is systemrequirementslab a reliable source of information? It says I can run the Witcher 2 at a good level, but this seems doubtful.
@ZoomyRamen said:That always says i can run games way better than i actually can. It's not very accurate.@PopUp: If he is referring to the RAM he means whether the MoBo takes DDR2 or DDR3 RAM. If it's the GPU then I think whether the MoBo has a 16x PCIE-slot. The resolution means you won't need as powerful GPU to handle the graphics.Thanks for all the help. One last question - is systemrequirementslab a reliable source of information? It says I can run the Witcher 2 at a good level, but this seems doubtful.
Hmm. To make any worthwhile upgrades, like SammydesinasNL says, you'll likely need to replace your mobo.
Now I feel old. People are recommending GeForce 460s. I remember when I had a GE Force MX440 and when I finally passed it along to my daughter for her first hand-me-down parts computer. Apparently looking it up, we're currently in the 11th gen of GeForce models. That MX440 was 4th gen.
I would actually recommend a gtx 460 768mb or 450, rather than a 460 1gb, especially at the resolution. Both of those cards can be found much cheaper.
@crusader8463 said:A much better performance. Vista is known as a system hog that takes up a lot of memory. For someone trying to get every bit of power from an older system that can make a big difference. Other then that, as you said, there are a ton of little UI things that make using the system a lot nicer. The big one being the search bar. I'm also a huge fan of being able to set your wall papers to rotate automatically at a set time. I have about 30 different wallpapers cycling every 5 min. For someone like me who gets tired of looking at the same thing this is amazing and almost worth the upgrade in and of it self.@ZoomyRamen: Didn't notice the OS. Save up to upgrade to windows 7 64 bit asap.What are the advantages? (aside from improved UI etc).
Your cpu is too bottlenecked to even run the witcher or a better videocard with a dual core. I would at least go to quad core first. See if your mobo is am3, then you can upgrade it. Once you done that, then upgrade the videocard, or you will not be able to play the witcher 2.
See if your motherboard has a bios update for new cpus. Upgrade to a faster Phenom II chip and upgrade your videocard.
try and get maybe gtx 250 or something like that, its better than that one and not too much more expensive
This is NOT recommended if you only have 150 to work with. Don't get a new OS, use your 150 for a graphics card.@PopUp said:
A much better performance. Vista is known as a system hog that takes up a lot of memory. For someone trying to get every bit of power from an older system that can make a big difference. Other then that, as you said, there are a ton of little UI things that make using the system a lot nicer. The big one being the search bar. I'm also a huge fan of being able to set your wall papers to rotate automatically at a set time. I have about 30 different wallpapers cycling every 5 min. For someone like me who gets tired of looking at the same thing this is amazing and almost worth the upgrade in and of it self.@crusader8463 said:
@ZoomyRamen: Didn't notice the OS. Save up to upgrade to windows 7 64 bit asap.What are the advantages? (aside from improved UI etc).
Not sure how often of a problem it will be, but the other thing is game compatibility. Games are designed for Windows 7 now, so you may run into some problems running some games. Not sure how big of a problem it is since vista is just one iteration old, but it's something to look into.
I'm sitting on Vista 32 able to handle anything the gaming business throws at me.
GTX 260 OC, it cost me around 100.
And I'm sitting on a 2.67 GHz Dual Core processor, pretty much exactly equal to yours.
NO PROBLEMS here.
I'm also on 4 gigs of ram (Yes, 32bit Vista restricts me to around 3 gig but it's really not that big a difference nowadays)
THE GRAPHICS CARD is what you need to upgrade first. When you do, you'll notice a huge difference!
*EDIT*: To give you a picture of how effective that kind of system would be,
I'm sitting on exactly that and can run Crysis 2 flawlessly, Crysis 1 on maxed config and games like Dirt 2 60+ frames.
Pretty much almost every game runs at 25+ FPS.
Only game that craps me up is like intensive firefights in GTA IV on highest, or Men of War Assault Squad 4on4.
Good Luck friend, hope you make the right choice.
You must find out what your motherboard is, so better advice can be given. Personally, I would save up for an entirely new PC, but due to your budget this obviously isn't possible. What I'm about to recommend is entirely dependent on your motherboard and power supply. Please run this and take a screenshot of all your hardware details. Then take the side off your PC case and find out what power supply you have.
GTX460 768MB - 110
Phenom II X4 840 - 73 (This if you were maybe thinking of doing some overclocking)
Gig of cheap ram - 14
Really need more details of your PC to give proper recommendations. If the above setup was possible on your system though (budget/compatibility), you would be able to max out every game at 1280x800 (maybe a couple of tweaks here and there).
PC gaming isn't as expensive as people think.
Also, these prices are only from one vendor. I'm not from the UK so I'm not entirely sure where the best place is to shop for PC gear. Maybe some UK folks could help with that?
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