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#1 Posted by Fruitcocoa (478 posts) -

Pre-orders are up now for both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One consoles and... they cost the same. Every main store have updated their prices to 4490 SEK (slight differences with 100 bucks above or below), which is almost 700 dollars. This is 490 kronor more then the Xbox 360 cost when it launched here and 1500 less then the PlayStation 3.

So, what is going on with the pricing?

#2 Posted by FilipHolm (667 posts) -

Damn this country

#3 Posted by rebgav (1429 posts) -

So, what is going on with the pricing?

Isn't Sweden one of the most expensive places to live in Europe? What is up with your pricing on everything?

#4 Posted by Chibithor (574 posts) -

One Finnish retailer has them up at 450 and 530€, another both at 600€ so I don't know. The second one has a whole page for E3 with news for stuff like Smash Bros reveal under the pre-orders so they obviously know about the revealed prices. They also say that the prices aren't confirmed, maybe they still want some official confirmation from Sony/Microsoft before promising to sell the consoles at that price?

#5 Edited by Blu3V3nom07 (4157 posts) -

Well if they're exactly the same price, get the console with exclusives you want. Killer Instinct looks good, I think, and free.

#6 Edited by SomeJerk (3143 posts) -

The prices are preliminary but below 5000 is good with how badly fucked we're used to getting. The most taxes in the world, what do we get in exchange? Just about no natural disasters and fine-ass women (and men)..

#7 Edited by huss (52 posts) -

The PS4 is region free so you could buy it from somewhere like Amazon (US) but I'm not sure if it would work out to be any cheaper.

#8 Posted by RazielCuts (2930 posts) -

'In Sweden, Games Play You.' - I was gearing up for a lot of those judging by the way the title was worded.

Even if they were to cost the same worldwide I still wouldn't buy an Xbox One over the PS4. It comes down to a respect for consumers and Microsoft has shown they don't respect us so why should we respect them?

#9 Posted by Nekroskop (2786 posts) -

I won't buy anything thats over 3500 NOK here, so if its anywhere near what the PS3 launched at(6000NOK) I'm gonna play the worst game of them all; the waiting game.

#10 Edited by Morrows (3 posts) -

In Denmark, 3700 DKK for PS4, 4000 for Xbox One, which is 659.69 US Dollar and 713.72 US Dollar

Personally this doesn't affect me as I won't be buying either console, but it's quite ridiculous.

#11 Edited by charlie_victor_bravo (944 posts) -

Like Chibithor said:

In Finland it seems that CDON (Swedish company) is selling both at 599.95€ price (798.29 US dollars) and games are priced at 79.95€ ($106.30).

Some other stores are selling PS4 at 449€ ($596.99) and Xbone at 529€ ($703.36) while the games for both are marked at 69.95€ ($93.01).

At any case price is way too high, but I just hope that Swedish pricing wont spread any further.

#12 Posted by Hasuto (15 posts) -

Those are probably place holder prices. €400 is about 3500 SEK so if nothing else we can just order it online from some other EU country.

#13 Edited by isomeri (1225 posts) -

We Finns and Svenska folket will have to pay a lot more for these consoles and games, but then again our internet is cheaper and faster than in the states. Also, free healthcare is swell.

#14 Edited by Swoxx (2988 posts) -

I won't buy anything thats over 3500 NOK here, so if its anywhere near what the PS3 launched at(6000NOK) I'm gonna play the worst game of them all; the waiting game.

Can't you just take a trip over here (Sweden) and pick one up at a retailer?

#15 Edited by Cincaid (2953 posts) -

Spelbutiken.se's prices (cheapest Swedish online retailer, according to pricerunner):

  • Xbox One: 4488:- ($685 / €514)
  • PlayStation 4: 4298:- ($656 / €493)

I realize the Swedish price includes taxes and stuff, but this is a very hard pill to swallow...and ironically it makes the whole "$100 CHEAPER THAN XBONE"-argument less valid for us.

#16 Edited by Akyho (1585 posts) -

That dosnt make much sense. Is there like something to the PS4 that causes some Taxes that Xbone dosnt?

Something

weird their wonder what tax or customs is jacking that price up.

@blu3v3nom07: Killer instinct is going to be free...but you only get to play as one character. You have to buy the rest individually. Dosnt sound fun.

#18 Posted by Subjugation (4718 posts) -

Man, why do your prices suck so hard? Do you have amazing minimum wages or something?

#19 Posted by SomeJerk (3143 posts) -

Man, why do your prices suck so hard? Do you have amazing minimum wages or something?

Super strong currency.

#20 Edited by Nivash (241 posts) -

@subjugation: We don't actually have a legal minimum wage at all, the minimum wage is determined through collective bargaining with individual bargaining on top of that raising the wages further in sectors that have worker deficits. It's complicated.

@somejerk A strong currency should make it the other way around because it makes imports cheaper and exports more expensive. The reason it's the way it happens to be is because the Swedish electronics retailers are still acting like it's 2006 when the USD was worth 8 SEK and the Euro over 10. Now the USD is worth 6,5 and the Euro just a little over 8, but the prices were never altered to reflect that. Hence the inflated prices when you do a direct currency conversion of the price. So you both get a VAT tax of 25% and the un-adjusted price points on top of that which adds something like an additional 15-20% in direct conversion. Hence, almost 40-50 % more expensive in a direct price conversion.

So yeah, importing might not be such a bad idea.

@charlie_victor_bravo Yeah you Finns had your prices adjusted thanks to you joining the Euro. That's the reason CDON charges more - Swedish price points, unadjusted for the devaluation of the Euro.

#21 Posted by guanophobic (260 posts) -

@nivash: Finally got an answer that makes sense on this issue

#22 Posted by thatdutchguy (1271 posts) -

Glad i don't live in Sweden then.

#23 Edited by Fredchuckdave (5339 posts) -

@ahaisthisourchance: You're in much better off waiting in the first place, launch titles are not good.

Aside from that, darn.

#24 Edited by JoeyRavn (4948 posts) -

Yeah... that sucks. I'm paying in Euros, but still. €499 is around $650, $150 more than what Microsoft is charging for the Xbox One in the States. I'm so fucking tired of game companies doing this...

#25 Posted by charlie_victor_bravo (944 posts) -

Could somebody from the states clarify if your prices (like PS4 $399) include taxes like EU prices and if they don't, how much would it be with taxes?

#26 Edited by oldenglishC (922 posts) -

Could somebody from the states clarify if your prices (like PS4 $399) include taxes like EU prices and if they don't, how much would it be with taxes?

Sales tax varies from state to state. Where I live it's six percent.

#27 Edited by charlie_victor_bravo (944 posts) -

@oldenglishc: Is that in for example the ps4 $399 price? Or is price for you $399 + 6% taxes ($422,94)?

#28 Posted by SomeJerk (3143 posts) -

In case we have any young Swedish bombers with us, and in case any old Swedish bombers want to raise their kegs and yell amen brother;
intendo had a price cartel growing that got on everyone's ass. NES carts used to be 499, shot to 500+, Roger Rabbit seemed to be a rare release priced 649. Every SNES game was 750 SEK, from the release in 1992, for as long as I can remember 750 sek was one entire barnbirdrag = monthly wad of money from the government set to help a growing child towards and easier life. Mega Drive (Genesis) carts were cheaper.

I don't know what site to use but 750 SEK right now is $114 US, and one dollar is 6.5ish SEK so that's kinda what they were like back in the day. Add inflation and we're all a bit more boned - and not making an increased amount of money to go with it unless we're rich white and in power - in Sweden.

The free healthcare is greatly goddamn appreciated though..

#29 Posted by Simplexity (1382 posts) -

At least you aren't Norwegian, they will probably charge us double of what everyone else is paying.

#30 Posted by Philantrophy (354 posts) -

In Norway most stores haven't adjusted their prices and have placeholder prices right now. One store has the PS4 for 5990 NOK (1036 USD) and the Xbox One for 4990 NOK (863 USD.) These numbers will certainly change, usually just multiplying the American prices with 10 works.

#31 Edited by fisk0 (3849 posts) -

@cincaid said:

Spelbutiken.se's prices (cheapest Swedish online retailer, according to pricerunner):

  • Xbox One: 4488:- ($685 / €514)
  • PlayStation 4: 4298:- ($656 / €493)

I realize the Swedish price includes taxes and stuff, but this is a very hard pill to swallow...and ironically it makes the whole "$100 CHEAPER THAN XBONE"-argument less valid for us.

The Swedish tax is exactly the same as in the rest of EU (VAT 25%), so it makes no sense that the prices should be this wildly different from the rest of the EU. I guess we could import from Amazon.de or something like that, not sure about how importing from UK's Amazon would work, since they use an entirely different electricity standard than the rest of EU (aren't they using 140V or something like that, instead of 230V like most of EU) - wouldn't the power supply be different between UK and EU?

#32 Edited by Pezen (1562 posts) -

Technically one store has the PS4 for 4298kr. Prisjakt up in this bitch.

That said, I really wish I could get the systems for the US pricing, man that would be pretty great.

Man, why do your prices suck so hard? Do you have amazing minimum wages or something?

Because we pay taxes on taxes so that we can live in this capitalist socialist monarchy utopia. Also, we don't have minimum wages per se.

#33 Posted by SomeJerk (3143 posts) -

At least you aren't Norwegian, they will probably charge us double of what everyone else is paying.

That's more messed up than I thought, you guys have my sympathies :(

It's gotta be "screw you guys for having oil and not being in the EU" punishment tax

#34 Posted by fisk0 (3849 posts) -

At least you aren't Norwegian, they will probably charge us double of what everyone else is paying.

In Norway most stores haven't adjusted their prices and have placeholder prices right now. One store has the PS4 for 5990 NOK (1036 USD) and the Xbox One for 4990 NOK (863 USD.) These numbers will certainly change, usually just multiplying the American prices with 10 works.

Yeah, since you aren't part of the EU, I guess you have to pay additional import taxes if you were to order from some of the more sanely priced continental EU places?

#35 Edited by Azteck (7449 posts) -

I'm gonna import the PS4 from the UK Germany (hadn't thought of the power issue), I save close to 1000 SEK on it.

#36 Posted by buckybit (1455 posts) -

"Welcome to Europe".

When I listen to the press and PR people, I have to filter out what they say and adjust

a) prices

b) services

There is NO country in Europe that will have the kind of video/media streaming services XBOX ONE is trying to sell to you, in the States or Canada. No matter, which provider you have there (unless you live in some Canadian woods, without electricity, or in the swamps of Louisiana).

"Europe" is considered by Sony, Microsoft and game publishers as 'high-income' 1st world consumer territory. Even though, the economy is stumbling for almost a decade in most countries. Southern Europe has a unemployment rate way above 10%? I think Spain alone has an unemployment rate of young people above 25%?!

Jeff was right, last night, talking on the stream. Microsoft's hidden message is "poor people - we don't need you. You are not our XBOX ONE target audience." Sadly, even IF you have a job in Europe and have a middle-income home/life, the prices for consumer electronics are way above the average costs, somebody in the States has to pay for AND the attached services are minimal, in comparison, too.

But buying a console, one has to look of the "OVERALL costs of ownership" aka ROI = "Return on Investment"?

You buy a machine, that will last you for several years (unless the Red Rings Of Death found a new home)? You have to add the costs for Internet Provider and Online Services, for game purchases, etc ... 100 bucks difference, suddenly just becomes a drop in the ocean?

#37 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (4157 posts) -

@akyho: They already confirmed that they will have a full package edition. It will also go to retail.

#38 Posted by rebgav (1429 posts) -

@oldenglishc: Is that in for example the ps4 $399 price? Or is price for you $399 + 6% taxes ($422,94)?

Sales taxes are not included in the price, so it would be the latter.

#39 Posted by Brendan (7687 posts) -

@somejerk: Are you saying that you pay higher taxes for hot Swedish sexing?

#40 Edited by Icemo (642 posts) -

@blu3v3nom07: But that version comes with a madcatz fighting stick according to Jeff, so it costs around ~$140 - $160. So that sucks.

#41 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (4157 posts) -

@icemo: Well they said that they'l have Multiple versions. It just got announced like yesterday. So, I bet there's still time to explain that.

#42 Edited by Fruitcocoa (478 posts) -

GREAT NEWS FELLOW SWEDES!

Microsoft Sweden just confirmed that the Xbox One will cost 4495 SEK. Which means that for the first time - we won't be paying the consol on a one dollars = 10 kronor.

Basically, a much more fair price but still way more then 499 dollars.

#43 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (4157 posts) -

@fruitcocoa: Xe says that translates as 4495 SEK to .. $691.61?. Yay....

#44 Posted by Red (5994 posts) -

Didn't know we had so many Swedish bombers. Are greatly raised international prices like this chosen more by the console maker because the competition is much more expensive there and they can get away with it, or because of very high taxes?

#45 Edited by Fruitcocoa (478 posts) -

@blu3v3nom07 said:

@fruitcocoa: Xe says that translates as 4495 SEK to .. $691.61?. Yay....

True, but hey - The 360 cost 4000 when it launched and the PlayStation 3 6000, so this is a pretty good deal for us.

EDIT.

Seems like Sony also confirmed the price - 4298 SEK

#46 Edited by SomeJerk (3143 posts) -

@brendan said:

@somejerk: Are you saying that you pay higher taxes for hot Swedish sexing?

Yes, though it's not that hot - venereal diseases spread like wildfire, my city (fifth largest) is the chlamydia capital of Scandinavia. There's a lot of sex going on, all year long it's demonstrated by pregnant bellies and sexologists burying heads in palms over how nobody protects themselves.

Check self before wreck self.

#47 Edited by SomeJerk (3143 posts) -

@fruitcocoa said:

Seems like Sony also confirmed the price - 4298 SEK

Goddamnit Sony.

On the other hand, WiiU 32 gig was 3995, Zombi U package was 4495 tops. It's gotta be a YEN vs SEK deal. Somehow.

#48 Posted by BSw (249 posts) -

That's odd. I'm probably not buying a PS4 at launch anyway, but I'll still import when I do buy it. Also, thanks @nivash for that explanation.

#49 Edited by Nivash (241 posts) -

@fruitcocoa: That's an incredibly generous price point for the Xbone. Accounting for 25% Euro-VAT, that conversion is almost exactly done on a 6 SEK per USD basis, which is actually below the current exchange rate of around 6.5 SEK to every USD. In fact, it's a 7,7 % pure discount!

If the PS3 price is official, it's far less generous and runs at a whopping 9 SEK per USD exchange rate after accounting for Euro-VAT. That would mean that they are exchanging from the Euro, which has climbed back closer to 9 SEK per Euro again, but are adding a special Swedish VAT of 25% despite the fact that the $=€ price convention is supposed to do that already. So, VAT on VAT.

That's not nice Sony. That's not nice at all.

EDIT: If the price really is 4298 SEK for the PS3 then that's really close to the current Euro exchange rate of 8,7 SEK per Euro. It's off by less than 40 SEK. In fact it's off by less than a tenth of a percent, which probably means that Sony literally ran it right about now to a rate between 8,6 and 8,7 and then added an additional 25% VAT on that.

Really, really uncool, Sony.

Double edit: just got home. Stupid, stupid me. My numbers for the Xbone conversion are way off - for some reason I ran it as if the Xbox would cost $599 in the US, not $499.

The correct numbers are $499 at an exchange rate of 7.2 SEK per USD with an added VAT of 25% which brings it right on the mark at 4491.

That is a very, very odd rate. It's in the middle between the USD exchange rate and the Euro, with a strong lean towards the USD (the exact middle would be 7.9). Maybe they split the difference for some reason or maybe it's localisation costs or something. So it's above the correct rate. It's also above the price in Euros, but not by a whole lot - it's the equivalent of €519.

Not enough to make importation profitable, but nowhere near Sony's numbers (which are still correct, by the way: $399 x 8,7 x 1.25 = 4298.25)

So us Swedes get ripped off in both cases, Microsoft just rips us off considerable less: a "mere" €20 compared to Sony's insulting €94.

#50 Posted by SirLaughAlot87 (6 posts) -

Well if you adjust for exchange rate, you are already dead when it comes to "just" pricing; since it seems that "lol, 1 Euro= 10 dollars " is the norm now and we are already shafted with Steam pricing etc..

Atleast we have a working union, healthcare and great organisation; that must mean something. If stuff cost more because people have more money per capita then other countries..meh :P

Ohh and Swedish bombs represent!