A side from the full DLC games I've downloaded is just me or are add ons to games mostly just buggy messes that never really work right. Case in point the Dragon age and fallout DLC, these two games are some of my favorite of this generation and I would really love to continue playing them but they don't seem to be worth buying because of all the problems that are associated with them.
Fallout 3's DLC added meaningful content to game and is the right way to implement that kind of stuff (bugs aside, but this is nothing new for Bethesda). The "weekly Fallout 3 segment" that continued for months and months on the GB podcast proved that, though I do agree that a lot of DLC in games is awful.
I liked some of the Fallout 3 DLC. Point Lookout was probably the highlight. Though when I look back on it, yeah, it's one of those things I really wish I'd waited for a GOTY pack to buy, because none of it seemed very meaty. You could argue that you're only paying between $5 and $15 for any given DLC pack, but I'd rather pay $30 for the fleshed out experience of an expansion pack.
I think my biggest problem with most DLC is the recycling of content from the main game. It's insulting to me when they expect you to pay for a little bit of lighting fidgeting and a new enemy layout over maps you already saw in the main game. Dragon Age is a big offender. Alan Wake is another one. Both of those games most recent DLChad level design that was 90% or more scrambled from other existing content with a story slapped together in an attempt to excuse that. If you can't spare the artists and level designers for such a trivial piece of content, my suggestion is to not put out that content. It's hard to argue that it's anything other than a money grab, and I find it offensive.
DLC sucks because it's almost always stuff that they had to figure out a way to cut from the game without making it crash, and be able to hide it behind a pay wall in the final hours before going gold. I have yet to see any DLC for a game, that I liked, that was worth the asking price.
No matter how much they try to pretty it up, it all looks like horse armor to me. The only difference now is that they give you two or three pieces of horse armor to trick people into thinking it's not the same thing. Sadly, most people didn't realize that and they all started buying the crap and setting the bar so low that the developers would be insane to try and raise it now. They are getting paid twice for the same game by simply cutting some content from the game and saying it's DLC.
This picture I made for an old blog post about why DLC is ruining the gaming industry illustrates my point of view. This is what we would have gotten if the modern ideas of nickle and dimming games with DLC and pre-order bonuses was alive back in the day of the NES.
It depends how dedicated the developers are. I enjoyed Oblivion and Fallout's DLC, and I really liked both GTA releases. Heck, Halo's 9 DLC maps have all been really awesome. But I'll agree. Often times it feels like the gaming equivelent of deleted scenes from movies.
Okay so your right "Lost and the dammed" dlc was really good but I bought a lot of Fallout's dlc and was disappointed because of how buggy it was or how it just wasn't very good. As of late I bought DLC for Dragon age and it was so buggy that I couldn't even finish some of the quests.
Theres a ton of good stuff, Both Borderlands and Mass Effect 2 are doing it perfectly. The Resident Evil 5 add ons were great, Minerva's den is great, Rock Band songs are great, Alan wake chapter was great even the map packs for MW2 are probably great if youre really into that game... so yeah it's you.
the fallout DLC , 5 packs costing at 10dol each (which basically means you've spent 110dolars on one game) were good. two to three hours long and original but they were fucking BUGGED AS HELL. overall yes i think DLC is a rip off, the only good add on i've played aside from fallout was Alan Wake's "The Signal" it was for free and added 8 achievements i mean that's rad. Same for RDR with the first co-op DLC. the lamest and cheapest DLC was AC2's sequence 13 and 14 or was it 12 and 13? those were a rip off.
Let's think about this mathematically.
You pay 60 dollars for Dragon Age: Origins. Keeping re-playability into account you have hundreds of hours of meaningful gameplay. All in all an excellent investment.
Now, suppose you bought every single DLC release for Dragon Age. You get several hours (probably no more than ten) of extra gameplay. All in all you will have paid something around 50 dollars.
See the discrepancy?
I don't have anything against the idea of DLC per se, but rather the way it is implemented. If DLC gives you 10 to 20 hours of extra, meaningful gameplay, I say yes, invest in it. If it's less than that, I am hesitant to accept it.
A lot of DLC is ideas that had to be cut in order to hit budget and deadlines. If they approach the publisher, they can get extra money and time to release this would-be-cut content as something fans can check out. If it wasn't DLC, it would never have existed otherwise.
The problem I have is that a lot of people seem to think that all DLC should have been in the game, that they feel as if they're being charged extra for something they are somehow entitled to. If the retail experience wasn't enough, you should not have bought it. That's using your money wisely.
If you think it 'should have been in the game', then obviously you should not have bought the game in the first place.
" There seems to be very little good DLC. Which is what pisses me off. Its like the 1st few rounds of DLC meant something, and now everyone does it...and almost everyone puts out shit, or stuff that shoulda been in the game to begin with. "
" It depends how dedicated the developers are. I enjoyed Oblivion and Fallout's DLC, and I really liked both GTA releases. Heck, Halo's 9 DLC maps have all been really awesome. But I'll agree. Often times it feels like the gaming equivelent of deleted scenes from movies. "That's because it exactly is deleted scenes most of the time.
In an ideal world, I'd like to see a tiny bit more free DLC, and I always think 800 points should be the maximum price for dlc. Having to pay more than a quarter of the price of the original game for some dlc is a bit dumb in my opinion, unless its something really substantial.
Yep, i'm also not a fan of the Dragon Age dlc. Most had contrived plots and weak execution.
" @trophyhunter said:" I just finished playing through Witch Hunt,and fuck that was stupid. "As was most of the Dragon Age DLC. Just remembering my time with Golems of Amgarrak...*shivers* "