I'm not exactly sure where this goes, it's a little bit of General Discussion and a little bit of Off-Topic.
...You cant just make this stuff up...You just cant....
I'm almost at a loss of words, I'm sure other people on this board can do a better job at sounding off the pain trying to think of the situation from a logical standpoint. But here are some quotes that will make your brain hurt:
School teacher Davis Mirza is partially responsible for the ads being removed, having emailed Sony Computer Entertainment Canada after seeing shocking images of a "menacing head with glowing eyes" and scenes of war "like Iraq".
Pictured above: An Iraqi insurgent dons his ceremonial Space Nazi gas mask.
Killzone 2 bus ads removed...looked like "Iraq"...
"General discussions is fine because it's Killzone 2 related, but more preferable for this thread to be in the Killzone 2 forums but it's cool.Anyways, I'm wondering what it was that he saw that makes the glowing eyes related to Iraq."The glowing eyes reminded him of Nazis. Because you know... Nazis have glowing eyes...
He said that there were other ads that looked like scenes of Iraq, not that the masks of the Helghast reminded him of Iraq.
Something like bus-side ads are going to be seen by a lot of people, including small children. The Helghast mask is probably fine, but if they had violent scenes, I can understand taking them down.
*shakes head* some people truely are just retarded i mean how can you mistake or think of those scenes as iraq or any thing? i mean they look like any scene of war.... just another person that thinks every thing should be hidden from children thats bad thus making them incapable of dealing with any problems later on in life.
Another dumb decision by Sony.
There are far more menacing images that kids are confronted with on a everyday basis, this is tame and his reasons for objection to the advert are lame.
"None of you people have any experience with children do you?"and you do? as for that i do since i've got a nephew i've been around since he was born and have had to have a hand in raising him though i don't want too.
Simply put its a far worse thing to shield children from the small things then it is not too, you shield a child from horribly large things you dont sit and put them in a closet and lock it so they experience nothing, These kids obviously have experienced war and terror the job is to help them work through that, not help them cover it up like it never happend and there is no war.
A life is your experiences if your never allowed to experience any thing bad then even the smallest bad things fuck you up.
Simply put its a far worse thing to shield children from the small things then it is not too, you shield a child from horribly large things you dont sit and put them in a closet and lock it so they experience nothing, These kids obviously have experienced war and terror the job is to help them work through that, not help them cover it up like it never happend and there is no war.A life is your experiences if your never allowed to experience any thing bad then even the smallest bad things fuck you up."I don't think you should take away the innocence of a children by exposing them to stuff like war, violence, porn and drugs at a young age. I think that's just common sense. In the case of these Killzone 2 bus billboards, the 'Iraq war' part, was there blood in the ads? Was it graphic? I think gamers should be more responsible and see how these sort of things really do matter rather than always siding with the companies blindly. A child shouldn't have to experience war at a young age. Kids should live long enough so they experience it later on. Experience is a lifelong process, it shouldn't be forced upon young children. That's how you truly get fucked up people who continue this cycle.
There is no such thing as innocence and to believe such...well i wont say any more but where at any point did you get that i was talking about taking their innocence away? Heres a tip the only way to keep someone innocent is to keep them stupid, blind and oblivious to any thing but what you deem as innocent.
That means taking your kids, puting them in a closet, cutting their arms and legs off and never letting them leave your sphere of influence...yeah its pretty much impossible unless you do exactly what i just described.
"Guardian said:Saskatoon has the highest murder rate, dude."Toronto should be use to violence by now."Nah, you're thinking of Vancouver!"
"There is no such thing as innocence and to believe such...well i wont say any more but where at any point did you get that i was talking about taking their innocence away? Heres a tip the only way to keep someone innocent is to keep them stupid, blind and oblivious to any thing but what you deem as innocent.That means taking your kids, puting them in a closet, cutting their arms and legs off and never letting them leave your sphere of influence...yeah its pretty much impossible unless you do exactly what i just described."Yes, there is such a thing. Little kids. Were you abused as a child or something? Because children being exposed to violent ads (at least if the KZ2 ad was violent) doesn't seem right to me. Little kids are SUPPOSED to be stupid. I seriously hope you never have children.
A small child will only be damaged by showing them shocking imagery. They don't have the capacity to understand the difference between reality and fake, let alone understand the implications of war.
"I think we should ban the news then.They show potentially damaging images non-stop."That's what parental controls on TVs and games are for. Parents can also turn off the TV. They can't make a billboard in public disappear or not appear in front of their children. That's the point. Once again I'll say I don't think the glowing eyes is a problem at all, but if there was some bloody & violent ad, I can see why that should be removed.
Hmmm, I wonder what the ad looked like. I doubt that the ad would show blood and would more likely look like this (also taken down in a lot of subway stations/bus stops). I can't really put fair input for this topic until I see the ad though.
You hope I don't have kids diamond but the kids you raise will go psycho and kill someone because they took a french fry from them or made them cry or stole their girl friend...ect
P.S: if the definition of innocence to you is being a KID then innocence is evil since some kids out of ignorance and stupidity do some pretty horrible things...like shooting their brothers because they didn't know better not to play with that gun, or pushing a kid off a swing and breaking his neck cause the kid wouldn't let them have their turn.
"You hope I don't have kids diamond but the kids you raise will go psycho and kill someone because they took a french fry from them or made them cry or stole their girl friend...ect"You have to be chemically unbalanced to do stuff like that if you weren't abused as a child. Exposing your small children to excess violence? That's abuse. Most children in Western countries aren't exposed to excess violence when young and they turn out fine.
My definition of innocence isn't being a kid, I'm saying little kids ARE innocent. What kind of fucking retarded parents let guns laying around the house and not locked up and secured? That has nothing to do with innocence, that has to do with abusive / incompetent parenting. If you had any experience with children at all, you'd know telling them not to use a gun just makes them want to do it more.
"lamegame621 said:I can't really say anything for certain, seeing as I haven't seen the ad. I think they should treat movie ads the same way. I think video games get unfair treatment in that respect. But I digress: another topic for another day."I think we should ban the news then.They show potentially damaging images non-stop."That's what parental controls on TVs and games are for. Parents can also turn off the TV. They can't make a billboard in public disappear or not appear in front of their children. That's the point. Once again I'll say I don't think the glowing eyes is a problem at all, but if there was some bloody & violent ad, I can see why that should be removed."
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