Koch Media - Coke Media or Cock Media?

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#1 Edited by alternate (2476 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

As in Deep Silver and new owners of Saints Row.

Pretty sure it is pronounced "cock", on the bombcast they seemed to think it was "coke" - any Germans want to weigh in?

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#2 Edited by Kidavenger (2352 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

It's pronounced coke.

#3 Posted by nohthink (1213 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

I thought it was like coach....

#4 Posted by Gargantuan (1819 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

Or maybe Kosh

#5 Posted by EpicSteve (6172 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

Cock Media is already taken. I tried starting a company a little while back.

#6 Edited by believer258 (8182 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

I thought it was "koch". Like "Heckler and".

EDIT: While searching for this on Google, I came across this, a handgun forum that asked this very question about how to pronounce the "Koch" in "Heckler and Koch".

One of the most frequently asked questions to arise on the HKPRO boards is the correct pronunciation of Theodor Koch's last name. Most center around "coke" "kotch" or "kock".
In actuality, there are two ways to correctly pronounce Koch. Let's call them the American version and the German version. In German, the letters "ch" do not sound like they do in English. "Church" is not a ch combination that the Germans ever pronounce. It is more of a chhhh that somewhat sounds like phlegm being summoned from the rear of the throat.
As for the English pronunciation, the correct way is "coke." Former New York mayor Ed Koch ("Kotch") may have muddied things up, but if you get confused, you can always say, "HK."

If Koch the game company took their name from, or pronounces it similar to, the above, then there is your answer.

EDIT 2: And I was thinking "Kotch", by the way, with the "ch" sounding like "church". But apparently for English it's "Coke"

#7 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (2830 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@Gargantuan said:

Or maybe Kosh

This was how I was pronouncing it.

#8 Posted by Bumpton (373 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

It's pronounced "coke."

#9 Posted by Video_Game_King (29854 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

Wait, the Koch Brothers own Saints Row now? Somebody check FOX News' pulse, because I think they've passed out.

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#10 Posted by chiboi34 (11 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

it's coke, i always assumed it was "cock" until i heard it spoken.

#11 Posted by mellotronrules (1087 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

if they're a german company it would be pronounced with the long vowel sound for 'O' - like in 'Coke.'

also- the 'CH' would be soft- like you find in the german pronunciation of 'Munich' as 'Muenchen.' but we don't have a soft 'CH' sound in english, so the closest pronunciation would be a 'K' sound.

tl;dr - pronounce it 'Coke.'

#12 Posted by DerTypDaa (6 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

It´s pronounced just like the google lady says it. http://translate.google.de/#de/en/koch

#13 Posted by phrosen (110 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

/kɔχ/, rhymes with loch, like Loch Ness. Unless you pronounce that with a /k/ as well. That's fine too, I guess.

#14 Posted by alternate (2476 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@Video_Game_King said:

Wait, the Koch Brothers own Saints Row now? Somebody check FOX News' pulse, because I think they've passed out.

Different cocks.

#15 Posted by Snail (7911 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

Kotsch Media?

#16 Posted by OfficeGamer (1029 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

I thought it was Koch as in Kochhhhhhhhhhh like "Lachayem"

#17 Posted by Branthog (7052 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

It depends. If Koch Media is owned by the Koch Brothers, then it's "Coke". Also, if it's owned by the Koch Brothers, then fuck Koch Media in the asshole.

#18 Posted by Jack268 (3386 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

It's pronounced Koch. What is wrong with you people?

#19 Edited by NewDust (77 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

It's so easy if you know it but hard to explain.

1. Ko as in Cock

2. ch as in... well I only think German words have this sound (and some Dutch words come close... so why not put a video here. It's the first option she explains.

Edit: Koch as rhyme to Loch is close but the proper pronounciation of loch would end more to mixture of Lock and Log.

#20 Posted by Fattony12000 (4417 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

The 'Koch' in Heckler & Koch is pronounced as 'Coke'.

So maybe it's the same, maybe?

Maybe.

#21 Edited by JackSukeru (5224 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

I always read it like "cough" only less "F", more "chhh".

"ch" like in that German video.

#22 Posted by TepidShark (951 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@Video_Game_King said:

Wait, the Koch Brothers own Saints Row now? Somebody check FOX News' pulse, because I think they've passed out.

@Branthog said:

It depends. If Koch Media is owned by the Koch Brothers, then it's "Coke". Also, if it's owned by the Koch Brothers, then fuck Koch Media in the asshole.

I have been assured Koch Media is not owned by the Koch Brothers.

#23 Edited by CptBedlam (4024 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@Fattony12000: Well, that guys's pronounciation of "Koch" is wrong, despite him working for the company. It's a German company and we pronounce it as @NewDust explained it.

#24 Posted by Chavtheworld (4271 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@Fattony12000 said:

The 'Koch' in Heckler & Koch is pronounced as 'Coke'.

So maybe it's the same, maybe?

Maybe.

Maybe in American (see post by believer258). Being British and having learnt German for a couple of years, I would have always said the phlegm noise the Germans would say. Like Kogh. But with a ch noise as well. In the back of your throat.

I never, ever have heard someone pronounce that combination of words as "coke" though! Not saying it's wrong, it just sounds so weird to me :P

#25 Posted by JJOR64 (18222 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@Colourful_Hippie said:

@Gargantuan said:

Or maybe Kosh

This was how I was pronouncing it.

Same here.

#26 Edited by GaspoweR (1425 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

A friend of mine who is of Eurasian descent said that the Arabic and German languages did have some similarities in regards to how they pronounced their words (I'm not sure what is the proper term of what I described just now). He said that this proved pretty useful when he was learning to speak in Deutsch. It also kinda reminds me of the proper way of pronouncing the "h" in "Ahmed" and it would probably sound similarly to "ch" in "Koch" when spoken in German.

#27 Edited by oldenglishC (409 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

I did not expect a thread with " cock media " in the title to be so dull.

#28 Posted by Fattony12000 (4417 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@CptBedlam:

@Chavtheworld:

Same here, cock is what has always come out of my mouth.

I thought this guy might know better, turns out he's a fraud. A DAMN DIRTY FRAUD I SAY!

#29 Posted by Chavtheworld (4271 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@Fattony12000: Haha, oh no!

#30 Posted by Dagbiker (6409 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

oddly Google translate gives me

(English to German) dick -> dick

(German to English) dick -> thick

#31 Posted by Mr_Skeleton (4988 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

Penis

#32 Edited by DeadFish (179 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

The video posted by NewDust explains is correctly. The sound is called voiceless velar fricative. (There is an audio sample on that Wikipedia page.)

#33 Posted by TheCreamFilling (1142 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

At least it's better than "Mannlicher Media".

#34 Posted by Animasta (13005 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

since I took german I say it how germans would say it, ie THE PROPER WAY

#35 Posted by Miketakon (499 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@Jack268 said:

It's pronounced Koch. What is wrong with you people?
#36 Posted by Sparkul (36 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

I hope the next Saints Row is based on this thread. 100% pronunciation jokes.

#37 Posted by Kerned (1132 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

Now that they own Saints Row, I think it HAS to be pronounced "cock."

#38 Posted by MariachiMacabre (5619 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago
@TepidShark

@Video_Game_King said:

Wait, the Koch Brothers own Saints Row now? Somebody check FOX News' pulse, because I think they've passed out.

@Branthog said:

It depends. If Koch Media is owned by the Koch Brothers, then it's "Coke". Also, if it's owned by the Koch Brothers, then fuck Koch Media in the asshole.

I have been assured Koch Media is not owned by the Koch Brothers.

Koch Media appears to be based out of Europe, so that's a big indicator as well.
#39 Edited by AlexW00d (5459 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

I still don't understand why Americans pronounce it coke. Wtf is wrong with you guys.

#40 Posted by Milkman (14223 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

Torso Media.

#41 Edited by Ares42 (1908 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

Considering it's a German company I'll go with neither. I'm not sure on the English terminology, but the end is an H sound.

#42 Posted by Animasta (13005 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@AlexW00d said:

I still don't understand why Americans pronounce it coke. Wtf is wrong with you guys.

we don't care about pronunciation of foreign words

I mean I only know how because I took german

#43 Posted by AlexW00d (5459 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@Animasta said:

@AlexW00d said:

I still don't understand why Americans pronounce it coke. Wtf is wrong with you guys.

we don't care about pronunciation of foreign words

I mean I only know how because I took german

As someone who enjoys languages this saddens me :(

#44 Edited by Animasta (13005 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@AlexW00d said:

@Animasta said:

@AlexW00d said:

I still don't understand why Americans pronounce it coke. Wtf is wrong with you guys.

we don't care about pronunciation of foreign words

I mean I only know how because I took german

As someone who enjoys languages this saddens me :(

me too, but considering the only other language that's of any real use is spanish it's understandable.

#45 Posted by BillyTheKid (461 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

I always pronounced it the same as the Heckler and Koch line of guns. So kind of like coke with a really reserved h too it.

#46 Posted by HatKing (4437 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

@Branthog said:

It depends. If Koch Media is owned by the Koch Brothers, then it's "Coke". Also, if it's owned by the Koch Brothers, then fuck Koch Media in the asshole.

Different Koch. Koch Media came from Europe, some dudes named Franz Koch and Klemens Kundratitz.

#47 Posted by ValeYard (102 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

If it's pronounced German, it's more like 'cock', in fact [kɔx] in IPA. So the consonant at the end is like 'ch' on loch of Loch Ness. Koch in German means 'cook' (Sg. der Koch, Pl. die Köcher), but is also a widespread second name like many occupations such as Miller (Müller). Check out the second pronunciation on this link's audio if you want to hear it: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/koch

However, some German names are pronounced differently in the US, and some German expats prefer their name to be spoken in an anglicized manner (the soccer player Jürgen Klinnsmann for example). I'd still put my money on the German pronunciation though.

#48 Posted by 49th (1887 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

It's like Kogh

#49 Posted by Flacracker (701 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

"ch" in German is pronounced with a sort of hissing sound.

#50 Posted by Subjugation (4419 posts) - 4 months, 26 days ago

Do people legitimately think it is cock, or is it a bad attempt at a joke? I can't tell with you guys.

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