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stonyman65

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#101  Edited By stonyman65

Kotaku sold out a long time ago dude, not because of ads, just because of sucking.  They have no integrity, just like Gamespot, G4, IGN and Gametrailers (to name a few)

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#102  Edited By ReyGitano

The quality of a lot of Kotaku articles has been ass lately. The only reason they remain on my news feed is for breaking news, and there hasn't been a lot of that either as of late.

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#103  Edited By Agent47
@shinigami420: Heeeeey it'sssssssssss thissss guy....
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#104  Edited By MrKlorox

Are you implying there was ever a point where Kotaku was a legitimate website?

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#105  Edited By TatoBins
@JasonR86:  
1. Just because an ads entertaining doesn't  mean it's not an ad. What appears in the post in question is an ad. Even Mike Fahey (who wrote the article) refers to them as "Kristen Schaal's web ads." Arguing otherwise is a waste of time. 

2. The whole point of a review is that it's unbiased. If a publisher is trying to strong-arm a reviewer into giving a game a positive review that's not a symbiotic relationship. Kane and Lynch mean anything to you? The press shouldn't be dependent on publishers for their info. Thats an inherently flawed system. You don't need a review copy of a game in order to be able to review it.  I as understand it, this is why Giant Bomb does so many live streams the day of release. 
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#106  Edited By JasonR86
@TatoBins
 
1) He's referring to where the outtakes came from.  These are outtakes from a web-ad that was already made.  These outtakes in and of themselves are not advertising the Xperia.  You still haven't told me how that video is any more of an ad then the trailers I see posted on Giantbomb daily.
 
2) I used reviews as an example of when journalism can become an ad.  A preview is different.  Reread my post.  This isn't a response to anything I said.
EDIT:  Ok, I see where you got the impression from what I said about reviews.  When I said a positive review could be considered an ad.  This is because a positive review pushes forward sales for that product.  But that is different then a publisher strong-arming a reviewer.  And, as I mentioned, I don't consider a positive review an ad in my own opinion.  I made that comment referring to the strictest sense of the definition of the word  'advertisement'.
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#107  Edited By Interfect

I never really went to Kotaku before despite following them on twitter. But oh my god. What an awful site design. I can not do anything on that site.

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#108  Edited By THRICE

I still looked at Kotaku here and there for a little while but now that even there mobile site changed format I just stopped completely. The articles were not worth reading anymore and bizarre topics seem to always be headlines instead of news. For news I typically check Game Informer, IGN, and occasionally Joystiq when I'm feeling pun'ny. As Giant Bomb's news reporting gets more and more timely (in no small part to Patrick thank you) I could see myself weening off checking other sites. 

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#109  Edited By Burzmali

I still go there out of habit, but I'm pretty disgusted by the banner ad that covers up content when you first go to the site. That's goddamn disgusting.

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#110  Edited By coakroach

Dont really care if they sell out or not.  
They get more news faster than anyone else in a way thats super easy to digest, and thats all I really use them for.

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#111  Edited By UnrealDP
@Stonyman65
Gametrailers is still pretty cool though and they never really sold out, but i won't bother trying to defend the others.....
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#112  Edited By SomeDeliCook
@coakroach said:
Dont really care if they sell out or not.  They get more news faster than anyone else in a way thats super easy to digest, and thats all I really use them for.
Same
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#113  Edited By NightSkies

I always thought that Kotaku was terrible.  Poor reporting, terrible writing, and way to make of the Gawker Media patented snark.    
 
Who cares if they get the news first when it is either a press release disguised as reporting or just flat out wrong? 

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#114  Edited By Jack268

Kotaku is shit 
 
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My issue with Kotaku has been the same issue I've had with game journalism to begin with: ego. 
 
You ever been to a Gamestop, or worked at one? Ever noticed the the employees act? Their ego is overblown. They have a 7 dollar an hour job, but because its related to video games, they act like they are the gods of gaming.  
 
That ego carries over to journalism too. Just like you have the pompous elite movie or music critics, video game journalism is flooded with the same tools. Because they are reporting on an art form they respect, and have become a voice of expertise on it, their heads get filled of their own overblown self-worth.

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#116  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator

There are some things I don't like about Kotaku but to say that every other article is an advert is a huge exaggeration. They have their own gratuitous advertising and they'll report on video game ad campaigns (like the Kristen Schaal one) but their articles are mainly just articles.

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#117  Edited By Vexxan

Everyone sells out these days with the exception of this site which is why I happily give some money to the people behind it doing hard work keeping this ship floating.

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#118  Edited By zero_

I like Kotaku, I'm sorry.

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#119  Edited By Devil240Z
@Meowshi said:
Even Giantbomb is getting ads.    It's revenue.  Doesn't mean they've "sold out".
Giant bomb has ads? where?
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#120  Edited By Johnny5

Kotaku should stick to being a news aggregator. Their "journalism" is pathetic.

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I highly doubt trying to make a buck or two on the side is selling out. 

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#122  Edited By Immuniity

Kotaku is fine for news, hell they're quiet speedy some of the time.
 
I, however, do not give a fuck about all the 'cultural' stuff they post. Most notably the amount of fucking weeaboo bullshit.

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#123  Edited By TestamentUK

I stopped going to Kotaku when their redesign got in the way of me reading their content. However I was subscribed to their RSS feed for a long time (the full article one, which was difficult enough to find after they decided that much like web design they clearly knew how RSS feeds should work better than 99% of the Internet). No more though, they've completely lost the focus they used to have which is why I would visit the site. Now instead of getting extremely fast reporting of emerging games related news every other post is some poorly written, link-bait opinion piece, something completely irrelevant like a movie review or a post bordering on softcore porn. 
 
Never mind advertising, their just isn't enough worthwhile content.

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#124  Edited By Branthog

Kotaku has always been shit. I subscribed to their RSS feed for a bit, but they were pumping out 50+ stories a day and very few had anything to do with games. It was just a bunch of half-assed shit and photos of cosplayers. I quickly deleted the feed. That was a couple years ago.

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I live in Estonia and I never get ads. Feels good, man.

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#127  Edited By doublestack

I have no other way to put it but the "attitude" that Kotaku has had the past few years has finally turned me off. 1up was also one of my staples but since the last site overhaul it is an absolute mess. I was a part of both of those communities and have been following giant bomb for awhile, I like it here and I think i'll stay.

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#128  Edited By GreggD
@the_hiro_abides said:
@GreggD said:
@the_hiro_abides said:

I haven't been to Kotaku in a long time. It's constant updating was great when I had a job with internet and there was a lot of downtime.   A couple of people have mentioned Gamesradar. I used to frequent the crap out of that site! I still like their writing, but the ads can be annoying. Anyway, I still listen to their podcast even if they do have a tendency to use the same sound effects every week.

The mainstays are often the best ones.  Edit: I'm referring to the effects. Actually, the story Brett told about LA Noire yesterday, where he drove over a cliff on top of an unsuspecting pedestrian, that shit had me laughing so hard I couldn't open my eyes for like a minute straight.   Also, Kotaku sucks balls and caters too much to weeaboos. That's my piece.
Yeah, their stories are usually great. I do like a lot of the reoccurring ones such as the count down, Wikiparez, and Bret-Bot.
I really like the comedic effects, like the whistle and drum.
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#129  Edited By KowalskiManDown

With Patrick now on board here at GB... I don't need to visit any other videogame website.

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#130  Edited By MysteriousBob

Ah yes, Kotaku. "The Gamer's Blog". That is if all gamers love anime and stupid Japanese memes and don't have any actual interest in video games.

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#131  Edited By I_smell

Kotaku sucks for a lot of reasons. All their stories are just youtube videos and cosplay photos, I hope GiantBomb always sticks to covering ONLY the things people actually give a shit about. 
 
EDIT-- GamesRadar on the other hand is THE GREATEST!!!!!!!  I don't know how we got on that topic.

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#132  Edited By PillClinton

yeah, it's a shame.  

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#133  Edited By MeierTheRed
@creamypies said:
With Patrick now on board here at GB... I don't need to visit any other videogame website.
They have gotten better with Patrick on board. But i still prefer Joystiq for my news.
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#134  Edited By rawr

Kotaku hasn't sold out. It is owned by Gawker and Gawker has ALWAYS been out to make money. Go read any profile on N.Denton and you will see exactly what the Gawker model is and it has nothing to do with journalism. What is really driving people nuts is the new layout that makes ads impossible to avoid and thwarts things like AdBlock extensions which would leave most people blissfully unaware of exactly how many ads are on Kotaku. 
 
As for Kotaku writers... everyone likes different styles and different games. By the byline I can tell exactly which articles I am going to skip. This isn't new to me because even 2-3 years ago there were writers on Kotaku that I disliked which no longer work for the publication. Amazing writers have worked at Kotaku (Luke Smith) and amazing writers still work at Kotaku (Totilo). 
 
If you do not get that Kotaku and many other sites are all run by management that have a money making agenda that might not always sit well with their own editors and writers then you are supremely foolish. If you never liked Kotaku's brand of writing in the first place? Fine. If you think it has magically changed and become more advertisement oriented in recent days? You are nuts.

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#135  Edited By PieGuy

AdBlock.
 
Use it.

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#136  Edited By xpgamer7
@Video_Game_King: it's usually only on the front page and only occasionally. Usually when big games come out. Think Gamespot.
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#137  Edited By AnimalFather

Remember when CAG owned Brian Cresente on Kotaku hahaha good times.
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#138  Edited By Chop

I just feel like pointing out that Screened does the whole "ads as articles" thing and I haven't seen anyone bitch about those. 

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#139  Edited By ninjakiller

I stopped going there after the redesign.  

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#140  Edited By zujik

I stopped checking them out for three reasons. 
 
The first was the rapid torrid of crap, with a half paragraph of text that doesn't always explain whatever the video content they decided to substitute for writing is about. Also, the way they handle revisions of the articles annoys me. Petty, maybe. 
 
Second is the web site redesign. It is horrid and every third or fourth article crashes my chrome tab. I have tried on OS X and Windows 7 and either get a sluggish browser or crashed tab. I have a six core AMD Desktop and it also doesn't like it, which concerns me. I used to do backend site design and front end layouts and I have played with a bunch of that stuff, I do appreciate trying to innovate and the complexity of getting it all going right. The keyword is RIGHT.
 
And finally, and the main freaking reason, I live in Australia and quite often a link to a story redirects me to the Australian site. While the Australian site doesn't have the redesign, good, the link I used that redirects me there breaks and sends me to the front page with the relevant story nowhere in site. Sometimes it doesn't, sometimes little tricks I have found on Google bypass it, but too often a link is broken for me. 
 
And if you really don't want me to visit and read your site, I won't. Simple fix.

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#141  Edited By Cirdain

At least it isn't like destructoid which tries to fuck my face with ads completely unannounced.