Posted by patrickklepek (3382 posts) -

In a surprise move, Microsoft today ditched many of the new policies for how Xbox One treats used games, always-on connectivity, and the role of physical discs.

You can read about that here. It's big news, and places Xbox One much closer to PlayStation 4 on a policy level.

After announcing the changes, Microsoft put me in touch with Xbox chief product officer Marc Whitten, and we had a whopping five minutes to talk with one another. We ended up talking for almost eight!

Here's our full conversation.

Giant Bomb: You guys spent last week talking a lot about the policies that were already in place. Clearly, these were things you had thought about for months, if not years, and were building for it. And just several days after E3, to reverse a lot of these big, bold choices about the machine...why does this come just days after E3 closed?

Marc Whitten: This was our first opportunity, frankly, if you look over the last month, from the Xbox One unveil to E3, to actually lay out what our program is, and to talk about it. We’ve been working on it for a very long time, and this is our first time to start getting feedback. By the end of E3, we’ve given a view across our entire program of how the system works, [from] the amazing line-up of games and how those games take unique advantage of Xbox One and the cloud and what they can do. We’ve gotten a lot of great feedback. It was the time where we heard from everybody and what they loved about our games, what they loved about our vision--but they also wanted more choice. They wanted the flexibility to use your console offline, and they wanted the flexibility to be able to use physical discs the way they've always used them. Frankly, we just listened. We wanted to take that feedback and make changes.

Giant Bomb: You characterize this as responding to feedback from customers, and this being your first chance to respond. But couldn't you have anticipated some of this backlash in the first place? Why do you think consumers were so upset and so vocal about the original policies put in place for the machine?

Whitten: We believe a lot in this digital future, and we think most people will be using Xbox One connected, and they're going to be taking advantage of the cloud with games like Titanfall or with Forza and how it uses drivatars. And, frankly, just to stream content online with video or to play multiplayer. So much of what we believe in that vision, frankly, I do think that people have responded in a really, really deep and rich way--that they love that vision, they love the experience. They love what they saw about how the NFL experience could be changed, for instance. But we clearly heard that there were times that they needed the box to work in an offline state, whether they just wanted to use it offline or were going on vacation or they were in a low connectivity area, and, frankly, that they loved the familiarity of physical discs and really wanted it. So, we just responded to that.

Giant Bomb: Right after this news broke, GameStop's stock went up 6%. Do you think that's related?

Whitten: [pause] [laughs] Uh, I don't know. I'm not a good person to ask about stock market prices.

Giant Bomb: Along with this, a lot of these were related to policy changes in regard to DRM and an always-on connection. Has there been any discussion about addressing any of the privacy concerns in terms of the Kinect, and that being on all the time and also being a requirement for turning on the box?

Whitten: We're really focused on how Kinect can change the experience, and the importance of having Kinect be a deep part of the architecture, so that game creators [and] experience creators can always take advantage of it. As a user, you can rely on it always being able to work. That said, we're also focused on making sure that you're in control, that you understand what Kinect's doing, and that you have great privacy controls around them. We've put some information there on how that's going to work on Xbox One. Of course, I'll also just say that you have the choice to have your console work offline. We're here to give you control over that experience.

Giant Bomb: The machine does require a connection at least once when a user purchases it. Why is that?

Whitten: It was always part of the plan for Xbox One. It's as simple as the difference between our manufacturing schedules and our software schedules. There was always going to be a day-one update when we launched it.

Giant Bomb: Regardless of these policy changes, you guys had built in that there was going to be a day-one update to the machine, even if when these policies were announced, everyone was honky dory?

Whitten: Oh, yeah. It's always been the plan.

Giant Bomb: You guys have mentioned that this essentially kills, at least for launch, some of the more progressive, interesting policies, such as the family sharing and lending policies. Are those killed permanently or are they things that can come back in future software updates for the operating system?

Whitten: Part of it's a mix because of the reality of how you're changing the experience. Let me give you an example. Before, one of the things that's exciting about a digital ecosystem, is if I go to any Xbox and I see all my games, they show up in my games library? Well, obviously, if you're gonna use physical discs, those games wouldn't show up because it's only showing the content that's in the cloud--that's in your online library. That wouldn't change. The difference is the choice you have of using physical discs or having purchased things online. That said, so much of how we built the program is really built on that digital infrastructure. You get a ton of the advantage of that at launch, and we're going to continue to invest in that. Examples are, obviously, things like day-and-date [digital purchases], and I can choose to buy either of them online or physical--it's my choice. Similarly, if I went to your house with my physical-based game, and we played and I left and took my disc with me, you could instantly purchase that game with no download because it's all built on that same functionality. You're going to see us continue to really invest in that. We believe a lot in that cloud powered future.

Giant Bomb: Does that mean, specifically, the family sharing and stuff like that is not off the table, or just something we're not talking about for launch?

Whitten: We're talking about where we are at launch, and we'll continue to invest and deliver interesting, cool, new scenarios. We'll see where we go.

Giant Bomb: Some of the games you mentioned--Titanfall is one, Foza is another--are games that are investing in the cloud infrastructure to enhance the gameplay experience. Obviously, third-parties have a little more leverage in terms of how they handle those policies, but Forza is a first-party game. What happens for the consumer that chooses to just be offline, and purchases a copy of Forza? Does that impact their singleplayer experience, or only start to cut them off from things that require the cloud, such as drivatar?

Whitten: It's really up to the game creators. Either in first-party or third-party, we don't have any specific policies around that. We want to give them access to a ton of capabilities in the cloud, we think most people will probably be playing connected to the live service and to our cloud servers. We think it can really change the experience in a whole bunch of ways, and, frankly, we hope we see game creators come up with amazing things that could only happen when you're connected to the cloud because they're using that power. If that's single player, multiplayer, whatever--that's their choice.

Giant Bomb: Last question, and I'll let you go. How do you think Sony feels today?

Whitten: [laughs] You know, I don't know. I focus on listening to our customers and our fans. I love the fact that they tell us what they love, and they tell us what they don't love. Frankly, that's what we've always been doing around here--to deliver what they love, and make changes when they don't like things. That's our focus.

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#1 Posted by mrfizzy (1512 posts) -

SCOOOPS!!!

#2 Edited by Blackmoore (254 posts) -

Great interview Patrick. Doing your best to squeeze some actual information out of him.

EDIT: Also typo: "amazon things". Thought you were referencing Amazon cloud stuff for a second.

#3 Posted by gkhan (413 posts) -

Did he really use the word "drivatars"?

#4 Posted by Finalizer0 (3 posts) -

Frankly, that was a nice interview.

#5 Posted by nonforma (57 posts) -

Great interview.

#6 Posted by sissylion (679 posts) -

Tricky Scoops, moving across the country because he just conquered the West Coast.

#7 Posted by MadLaughter (200 posts) -

@gkhan said:

Did he really use the word "drivatars"?

I came here to post this.

#8 Posted by Jace (1092 posts) -

GB: How do?



Whitten: Frankly, and well, frankly, so, frankly. Frankly.

#9 Edited by RudeCubes (137 posts) -

Doesn't seem that different from that Nintendo Rep E3 Dumptruck to be honest.

#10 Edited by Ouren (134 posts) -

Avoiding real answers left and right! Good use of marketing in answers! Very nimble.

#11 Edited by MooseyMcMan (10335 posts) -

DRIVATARS!

I'm sorry, I know this is a serious thing, but DRIVATARS!

#12 Posted by cthomer5000 (733 posts) -

DRIVATAR!!!!!!!!!!

#13 Edited by Hengst (47 posts) -

" we hope we see game creators come up with amazon things"

Typo in the answer to the second last question.

#14 Posted by Bulmung421 (12 posts) -

fantastic reporting scoops!

#15 Posted by Hailinel (23664 posts) -

@gkhan said:

Did he really use the word "drivatars"?

Yep.

And this interview really said nothing I didn't expect. Patrick asked some good questions and tried to wrangle some good info from him, but it was largely just canned PR talk.

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#16 Posted by Geveeso (26 posts) -

@gkhan: One of my first reactions too.

I'm hoping they announce the Family, sharing and trading features as still being supported by digital purchases, because if so, then this is great all around. Couple that with some aggressive pricing on digital and the XOne is looking nice.

#17 Posted by Akrid (1356 posts) -

frankly frankly frankly

#18 Posted by Demoskinos (14512 posts) -

SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS

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#19 Posted by ILikePopCans (745 posts) -

Some weird questions in dat interview

#20 Posted by JediMcAndrew (13 posts) -

Well, there was a bit of actual info there. Well done sir.

#21 Posted by MoonwalkSA (418 posts) -

Scoops!

Shame he didn't give any more substantial answers, but this is obviously such a sudden change already that I can't blame the guy for not knowing where things are going to go from here.

#22 Posted by DoctorSage (157 posts) -

@finalizer0 said:

Frankly, that was a nice interview.

Frankly, you beat me to it.

#23 Edited by Shibboleth (17 posts) -

Do they not know how these new policies will change their previous plans? His responses to your questions were quite vague. Also, I'm confused as to why a day-one update is such a necessity to what they are doing. Does anyone know?

#24 Edited by Schadenfreude (206 posts) -

@hengst: That's not the only typo. There's at least two more.

#25 Posted by LikeaMetaphor (47 posts) -

A lot of real non-answers, here. I appreciate all the questions asked, but it still kind of bugs me that some things weren't answered explicitly, such as offline functionality. Sure, people will probably be connected, and the cloudhas some cool stuff, but he didn't answer the question of offline. I live in an area with terrible Internet connectivity and play single-player games; I desperately wanted to know the answer to how this connectivity malarkey affects that experience.

I'd be cool giving you money, Microsoft, but you're not doing much to make me feel like giving you money. :(

#26 Posted by NinetySevenA (47 posts) -

Typo: Amazon in the second last question.

I don't think I could be a games journalist. I feel like I would have gotten fed up and hung up on him with all that PR speak.

#27 Posted by MrPeabody (60 posts) -

Get this in the Interview Dumpster!

#28 Posted by rye256 (114 posts) -

@patrickklepek: Second to last response, typo amazon

Great article, but I still doubt I purchase an Xbox One on principle. We shall see.

#29 Posted by RE_Player1 (7544 posts) -

Not really any new info but at least this guy was on message unlike the fuck ups during the reveal and at E3. I have a feeling to PR team got a good talking to after this shit went down.

#31 Edited by SupernormalStep (203 posts) -

Great job with the questions Patrick, it's too bad the answers seem to me to be a lot of PR spin.

#32 Edited by Fluttercry (175 posts) -

I love it when people agree to interviews, and then never actually answer questions. Still, Nice job Patrick. I can now fully say that I'm a reformed hater. Just sucks I had to realize this now.

#33 Posted by oopprraahh (64 posts) -

The squishy non-answer about family sharing and it's future is a perfect example of how frustratingly bad Microsoft has been regarding everything surrounding the Xone.

#34 Edited by Darkecho117 (62 posts) -

"Giant Bomb: Some of the games you mentioned--Titanfall is one, Foza is another"

Hm, I've never heard of the Foza series, but seriously solid interview Patrick hope we can see more of this kind of stuff from you!

#35 Posted by Rodiard (428 posts) -

Do they not know how these new policies will change their previous plans? His responses to your questions were quite vague. Also, I'm confused as to why a day-one update is such a necessity to what they are doing. Does anyone know?

I don't actually know but I'd guess that, similar to the Wii U, this allows them to crunch until the very last minute to finish development of the complete launch OS. This just adds to the feeling that they are rushing this thing to the market whether or not that's actually the case.

#36 Edited by ILikePopCans (745 posts) -

Get this in the Interview Dumpster!

https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/347526848256819200

#37 Posted by Nephrahim (1116 posts) -

The executive non-speak is strong with this one. Oh well, you did your best Patrick, I'm just annoyed (But not surprised) Microsoft is still unwilling to admit anything changed.

#38 Posted by ExplodeMode (852 posts) -

We have been talking about this, while it was unconfirmed, for months. Were they banking on, 'Once they see the games they will shut up' or something? The feedback was always negative. They can't actually think this is new and out of nowhere.

#39 Edited by GalacticPunt (1014 posts) -

Whitten should win some kind of Oscar for PR, the way he nimbly snuck "drivatars" marketing into a serious interview about DRM.

#41 Edited by Waffles13 (605 posts) -

@shibboleth said:

Do they not know how these new policies will change their previous plans? His responses to your questions were quite vague. Also, I'm confused as to why a day-one update is such a necessity to what they are doing. Does anyone know?

Because consoles will be manufactured, boxed up and in stores and warehouses months before they start being sold. That means that the software teams can keep optimizing and improving the system software up until the second the Xbone goes on sale. I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure the 360 had a day one patch as well (and at this point, any time you buy a 360, PS3, Wii or WiiU, the first thing it will do once internet is set up is patch itself up to the lastest version).

It's not a DRM or always online thing, it's a reality of internet connected devices, the same way that if you install Windows 7, it'll spend an hour downloading and installing patches because the software on the disk has been static on a shelf somewhere while it has been continually developed upon by MS over the internet.

#42 Edited by deskp (444 posts) -

@gkhan said:

Did he really use the word "drivatars"?

isn't it "driveatars"? I think that word is catchy, and works fairly well. better than "xbone" certainly.

#43 Posted by StealthRaptor (526 posts) -

So first party games like Forza might still require you to be online? Whatttt?

#44 Posted by Daneian (1202 posts) -

Honky dory?

#45 Posted by Crispy (207 posts) -

Didn't realize that the Frank Lee was running the interview.

#46 Edited by poheroe (154 posts) -

amazon =amazing? anyways yeah ...add online sharing games and i am on board!

#47 Edited by dvdhaus (354 posts) -

@shibboleth said:

Do they not know how these new policies will change their previous plans? His responses to your questions were quite vague. Also, I'm confused as to why a day-one update is such a necessity to what they are doing. Does anyone know?

A day one patch allows them the opportunity to keep working on the dashboard stuff and the other software related things after sending the build to be manufactured. If they wait too long with the build then there will not be enough consoles at launch. It's as simple as that.

#48 Edited by spraynardtatum (2519 posts) -

This coming generation is going to be a game in and of itself haha. What is the Xbox Ones identity now?

#49 Posted by CaptRocketblaze (173 posts) -

Summary: Patrick asked good questions while Microsoft referenced its press release in reply, showing that they're purely backpedaling & don't understand why people were upset in the first place.

#50 Edited by InternetDetective (344 posts) -

He wouldn't even acknowledge any backlash! He was just all "PEOPLE LOVE THE XBOX ONE SO MUCH AND NOW WE ARE JUST MAKING A SLIGHT TWEAK SO THEY WILL CONTINUE LOVING XBOX ONE BECAUSE OF THE LOVE AND OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT/LOVE ABOUT XBOX ONE. SPORTS"

The guy is a great PR robot for sure, totally sidestepped the question (and reality).