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#1 Posted by OfficeGamer (1087 posts) -


#2 Edited by OfficeGamer (1087 posts) -

I'm trying to compile a list of specific titles that even Mouse & Keyboard fanatics (such as myself) believe are just designed for a controller. Less "sports games/racers" posts and more specific titles please.

My list:

  • Bastion - You just can't move five feet without falling off the edge with WASD
  • FIFA / Need for Speed / DiRT - Better handling of the players/cars with analogue sticks. Much more fun to hold triggers and bumpers for sprinting/breaking/etc.. rather than tapping keyboard keys.
  • Super Meat Boy / Mark of the Ninja - I think the problem with these games is that they're full of jumping. Playing them on a keyboard would break the space bar.
  • Lara Croft & The Guardian of Light - A lot of circle dodging and jumping, needs a gamepad. Also co-op = 2 players = 2 gamepads.

What specific titles are exceptions to your "mouse and keyboard for everything!" rule?

The Walking Dead

Also, side question, I'm about to begin playing The Walking Dead (ep1) and I'm wondering, again addressing M&KB lovers only, did you prefer M&KB for it or controller and why?

#3 Posted by Kaiserreich (645 posts) -

Dark Souls and Sonic Generations are unplayable without a controller, but other than that I always use KB+M.

#4 Posted by TMThomsen (2068 posts) -

I found The Walking Dead more enjoyable with a gamepad.

#5 Edited by Ares42 (2443 posts) -

I generally find third-person action games to feel better using a pad, especially melee-based ones (like God of War, AC or Dark Souls). Dual-stick shooters can also be quite good, although not as much of a difference between the different schemes. Mouse and keyboard is generally better for games where you're pretty much always walking forward (directing with the mouse), not games where it's more of a spatial thing.

#6 Posted by Galiant (2163 posts) -

Civ V - pretty great with a controller playing from my couch.

There's no controller support, but with a little bit of unsigned driver magic my DS3 is a perfect fit.

Also XCOM.

#7 Edited by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

Any game that's not a top down game or a online FPS game. I prefer comfort over precise aiming in single player games.

#8 Edited by MentalDisruption (1618 posts) -

Dark Souls, Darksiders, Bastion, Sleeping Dogs, Batman, and Assassin's Creed are the only ones I own and play with a control. But more generally, most 3rd person melee based action games. Any shooter feels better with a mouse and keyboard to me, and the same goes for more UI heavy games like Civ, XCOM, etc.

#9 Edited by cheapandtacky (123 posts) -

Mouse and keyboard is for FPS and strategy games.

Platformers, driving games and in general third person games I find better with gamepad.

#10 Edited by Jams (2956 posts) -

anything that requires analog movement. That's about the only reason to use a controller over M/Kb. Even then, there can be work arounds (like in Splinter Cell PC where you can use the mouse wheel to adjust movement speed).

#11 Posted by Galiant (2163 posts) -
@Bourbon_Warrior Sorry if I gave you false hope there! There is software that lets you map mouse movement/keys to your controller though, which is more than enough to play Civ V!
#12 Posted by phrosnite (3517 posts) -

Bastion a thousand times. That slightly above average game is best played with a gamepad because with KB& M is f-ing unplayable. You'll develop "the claw" in no time.

#13 Posted by AlexW00d (6060 posts) -

Driving games and flying games, only cause I don't have room for a wheel or flight stick setup.

#14 Posted by JeanLuc (3518 posts) -

@OfficeGamer said:

Also, side question, I'm about to begin playing The Walking Dead (ep1) and I'm wondering, again addressing M&KB lovers only, did you prefer M&KB for it or controller and why?

I played Walking Dead with mouse and keyboard and had no problems with it. Haven't tried with a controller but what I've seen of videos it seems fine.

I find Borderlands 2 is better with mouse and heyboard, but that's due to this weird specific case. I play as Gaige the mechromancer, and with M&KB I can move the reload key to somewhere else so I don't accidentally discord.

#15 Posted by CaptainTightPants (2834 posts) -

I usually prefer playing stealth games with a gamepad.

#16 Posted by Animasta (14460 posts) -

action adventure games mostly. and platformers

#17 Edited by MB (11297 posts) -

I use my PC like a super-powered console and play almost exclusively with a controller, unless there is that rare game that needs M&K. This is primarily because I have my PC hooked up to a giant ass TV in my living room and using the latter is awkward and not very enjoyable.

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#18 Posted by Azteck (7447 posts) -

Racing games and platformers. Otherwise I stick to KM+B

#19 Posted by joey (960 posts) -

Non-FPSs

#20 Posted by LiquidPrince (15606 posts) -

@MB said:

I use my PC like a super-powered console and play almost exclusively with a controller, unless there is that rare game that needs M&K. This is primarily because I have my PC hooked up to a giant ass TV in my living room and using the latter is awkward and not very enjoyable.

Same. If at all possible, I use a gamepad, because I've hooked up my PC to my TV and it's much easier to play with a controller on a couch then it is to play with KB/M. That said I bought a new monitor just to play games that need KB/M like the Mass Effect series on PC since I'm playing through all of them all over again with all the DLC.

#21 Posted by Huey2k2 (475 posts) -

Pretty much any 3rd person game is better with a controller IMO

Anything first person is better with a keyboard and mouse. Also I would never even consider playing a strategy game with a controller.

#22 Posted by kindgineer (2485 posts) -

I like to play any game with a controller on the PC that I can simply because it feels better to sit back and enjoy the game.

#23 Posted by joshrholloway (72 posts) -

Any game that has good Xbox 360 controller support, I play with a controller. Even FPS games.

#24 Edited by Franstone (1057 posts) -

The Witcher 2.

Batman: AC & AA.

GTA series.

Trine.

I've heard XCOM plays well but have only used M&K, same with Skyrim.

Any sports/racing games.

Use a joystick for any flight games/sims.

Starcraft 2 (kidding!).

I do think PC is the best platform but I'm not one of those fools who blindly defend that M&K is best for everything.

#25 Posted by Subject2Change (2965 posts) -

Mostly Action games, Batman, Dark Souls, etc.

I played Bastion and Walking Dead with keyboard, I will usually play it on a console if it requires a controller. Like I own Trine 2 on PSN and Steam, however I will probably play it on PC cause it made more sense back when I played Trine 1 to play it with Mouse/Keyboard.

#26 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4281 posts) -

@MB said:

I use my PC like a super-powered console and play almost exclusively with a controller, unless there is that rare game that needs M&K. This is primarily because I have my PC hooked up to a giant ass TV in my living room and using the latter is awkward and not very enjoyable.

Basically this. I'll switch to KBM if I'm going to play a mutiplayer FPS like Team Fortress 2 because...well duh. The other situation will be if for some stupid reason a game came out without gamepad support like all of the Mass Effect games.

#27 Posted by devilzrule27 (1235 posts) -

Everything but strategy games are better with a controller. But thats just my opinion.

#28 Edited by tourgen (4233 posts) -

gamepad: all side-scroller shooters and platformers. All dual-stick games (geometry wars, etc)

First & third person 3D games are always better with a mouse.

There are examples where games that would have been better with a controller or vice versa have been badly fumbled by the developers. For example Binding of Isaac and Dark Souls.

#29 Posted by JoeyRavn (4886 posts) -

I used to be a hardcore KB+M user. I even have a Logitech G13 Gameboard... until I bought a 360 gamepad for my PC. Since then, I've barely touched a keyboard for gaming. Even for FPSes, I tend to use a gamepad. I don't play competetively online, so losing that pixel-perfect precision is not a problem for me. The last MB+K-exclusive game that I've played was Diablo III, like six months ago. Or, well, some Civ V every now and then.

#30 Posted by crusader8463 (14308 posts) -

Dark Souls is the only game I have plugged in my controller to play instead of MKB and that's only because the devs are terrible at making PC games and couldn't add in good controls. The camera freaks out when using the mouse to look around and is unplayable for me. If they fixed the camera issue I would use MKB but as is it's unplayable.

#31 Posted by crusader8463 (14308 posts) -

@phrosnite said:

Bastion a thousand times. That slightly above average game is best played with a gamepad because with KB& M is f-ing unplayable. You'll develop "the claw" in no time.

Lol no. I played it from start to finish with MKB with zero problems. Learn to use MKB and you can play any game fine as long as the devs don't go out of their way to make it unusable like in Dark Souls.

#32 Posted by phrosnite (3517 posts) -

@crusader8463 said:

@phrosnite said:

Bastion a thousand times. That slightly above average game is best played with a gamepad because with KB& M is f-ing unplayable. You'll develop "the claw" in no time.

Lol no. I played it from start to finish with MKB with zero problems. Learn to use MKB and you can play any game fine as long as the devs don't go out of their way to make it unusable like in Dark Souls.

he said to the guy who has played 99% of his games on a PC with KB&M.

#33 Posted by crusader8463 (14308 posts) -

@phrosnite said:

@crusader8463 said:

@phrosnite said:

Bastion a thousand times. That slightly above average game is best played with a gamepad because with KB& M is f-ing unplayable. You'll develop "the claw" in no time.

Lol no. I played it from start to finish with MKB with zero problems. Learn to use MKB and you can play any game fine as long as the devs don't go out of their way to make it unusable like in Dark Souls.

he said to the guy who has played 99% of his games on a PC with KB&M.

Then I don't know what your problem with it was. Maybe you need to play 99.9% of your games.

#34 Posted by WasabiCurry (415 posts) -

Normally, I go with KB+M over most games. Games that I would go with a controller would be fighting games and certain platformers like Sonic Generations.

It doesn't really matter to me, but I do prefer KB+M in FPS games and top down games. Controllers are simply way too slow even when the sensitivity is high.

#35 Posted by DarkShaper (1296 posts) -

Weird, I beat Bastion twice with KB+M and thought it played fine. 

#36 Posted by Beforet (2884 posts) -

I don't even know what I count as anymore. Some genres I need KB&M, others I need a controller. I've been playing walking dead with a controller. Feels more natural that way fir some reason.

#37 Posted by Ben_H (3200 posts) -

Dark Souls, any racing games, Limbo, 3rd Person open world games.

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#38 Posted by beeftothetaco (418 posts) -

-Dark Souls: Prepare To Die Edition

-Sleeping Dogs

That's all I've played with a gamepad on PC.

#39 Posted by believer258 (11043 posts) -

@phrosnite said:

@crusader8463 said:

@phrosnite said:

@crusader8463 said:

@phrosnite said:

Bastion a thousand times. That slightly above average game is best played with a gamepad because with KB& M is f-ing unplayable. You'll develop "the claw" in no time.

Lol no. I played it from start to finish with MKB with zero problems. Learn to use MKB and you can play any game fine as long as the devs don't go out of their way to make it unusable like in Dark Souls.

he said to the guy who has played 99% of his games on a PC with KB&M.

Then I don't know what your problem with it was. Maybe you need to play 99.9% of your games.

And maybe you should stop acting like some random tard on the internet.

I've argued for a controller many a time on the internet but I remember playing the demo of Bastion and wondering why anyone would prefer it with a controller.

On topic - whether I play with a controller or M+K really depends on a number of different things, but it mostly boils down to whichever one I feel like using at the moment. I switch around pretty often. Here lately, multiplayer games don't seem to be a problem simply because I'm not playing any of them, but I still find myself playing most games with a M+K. Sleeping Dogs, Darksiders 2, Dark Souls, and The Witcher 2 are all games I prefer with a controller.

#40 Posted by Beforet (2884 posts) -

I will say that I much prefer it when it's not an either or situation. Being able to switch on the fly without going into a menu is great.

#41 Posted by beepmachine (614 posts) -

@DarkShaper: Same here. I can't even imagine playing it with a controller. How the fuck could you aim accurately when the game moves so fast?

#42 Posted by Nentisys (881 posts) -

Dark Souls and Sleeping Dogs are pretty much the only ones I play with a controller.

#43 Posted by mak_wikus (475 posts) -

Your list pretty much sums it up for me. Racing, sports, platformers. I never play first person games with a gamepad. Never.
Also, XCOM is better on a gamepad. Saying that the game is played just as well on a K&M setup is complete bullshit. If that was the truth my mouse would be able to do everything. The moment the demo told me to "press SPACEBAR" to go into shooting mode I said fuck it and switched to gamepad. When I play a turn based strategy game I like to do it one handed sitting sideways to my desk. Sorry for the rant.

#44 Posted by Stonyman65 (2405 posts) -

Generally I use a controller for anything third person, fighting, or racing. Everything else that isn't a "behind the back" camera, I use a mouse and keyboard.

#45 Posted by Cold_Wolven (2167 posts) -

I prefer a controller over M+KB as I often make mistakes with a keyboard while playing so it's really a matter of ergonomics for me.

#46 Posted by CaptainCoke (95 posts) -

So what is the controller of choice for PC? Xbox 360 controller?

#47 Posted by ajamafalous (11591 posts) -
@OfficeGamer said:
Bastion - You just can't move five feet without falling off the edge with WASD
I disagree with that entirely. I hated Bastion when I first played it because I used a controller. I went back a few weeks later and played with M+KB and I couldn't stop playing it.
 
For me, it's:
  • Character Action games (Assassin's Creed, Batman, etc.)
  • Driving Games
  • Platformers
I think that's it. I absolutely will not play any first or third person shooters with a controller.
#48 Posted by 49th (2543 posts) -

Skyrim, Sleeping Dogs, SR3, and Super Meat Boy - all get played with a controller, it's just more enjoyable to lean back with a controller in these kind of not so intense games where you don't have to aim so precisely and it's nicer to move around with an analogue stick.

I always play FPS games with a keyboard + mouse though, I just prefer aiming that way.

#49 Posted by Branthog (7332 posts) -

Using a console controller on a PC is like having a Hummer just to drive to the grocery store. Or paying $1,200 for Microsoft Office, when all you're going to do is write notes that would be fine with Notepad. If you're going to play everything with a console controller, you might as well just play a console. The exception, of course, being shitty console ports to PC where the developer was too lazy to take advantage of WASD+M.

#50 Posted by gogosox82 (413 posts) -

I usually play most shooters and rpg's with KB+M and action games like dark souls or assassin's creed with controller