#1 Edited by UltraSoda (18 posts) -
#2 Edited by iceman228433 (617 posts) -

My internet never goes down so I don't really care all that much. On a good note it means I won't need that dam disc in the system to play a game anymore.

#3 Posted by BestUsernameEver (4825 posts) -

My internet is terrible, unless I get Google fiber here, having always on is an absolute deal breaker.

#4 Posted by AlisterCat (5727 posts) -

My internet goes down all the time and I'm in the UK.

#5 Edited by believer258 (12207 posts) -

I won't actually believe this until it's been confirmed by several different sources, and if it is confirmed then you can bet your bottom dollar that I will not be buying the next Xbox.

Meanwhile, your Neogaf link seems broken.

#6 Posted by golguin (4052 posts) -

My internet sometimes goes down. If the next Xbox is always online they are committing suicide. They can't be that stupid. Not everyone has reliable internet connections that work 100% of the time. Most people don't.

#7 Edited by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

The twitter guy more or less just rants and is an idiot for the entire thing.The dude makes himself seem like a massive douche bag telling people to "Get with the times and get internet"

@believer258 said:

I won't actually believe this until it's been confirmed by several different sources, and if it is confirmed then you can bet your bottom dollar that I will not be buying the next Xbox.

Meanwhile, your Neogaf link seems broken.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=534951

#8 Posted by golguin (4052 posts) -

Wow, just read that tweets from that dude. He can't be serious. How is MS still allowing his twitter account to exist?

#9 Edited by believer258 (12207 posts) -

The twitter guy more or less just rants and is an idiot for the entire thing.The dude makes himself seem like a massive douche bag telling people to "Get with the times and get internet"

@believer258 said:

I won't actually believe this until it's been confirmed by several different sources, and if it is confirmed then you can bet your bottom dollar that I will not be buying the next Xbox.

Meanwhile, your Neogaf link seems broken.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=534951

I copied and pasted it and it worked fine, but the link itself just gave me an about:blank page.

Anyway, I can easily see MS either reversing this pretty soon or just plain not selling many Xboxes when average Joe comes home and finds out that he can't play Fallout 4 due to his Xbox not being online at the moment or the Xbox servers being down or his wife is hogging all of the internet with cheesy romantic comedies on Netflix or any other internet fuck-up that happen to be going on.

#10 Posted by Andorski (5367 posts) -

The guy he was tweeting to clarified on twitter that the two are friends and were just talking yang to one another. Looks like another case of "dumbass, you forgot everyone can see the shit you post on the internet."

#11 Posted by golguin (4052 posts) -

@andorski said:

The guy he was tweeting to clarified on twitter that the two are friends and were just talking yang to one another. Looks like another case of "dumbass, you forgot everyone can see the shit you post on the internet."

I think that's called damage control. He tweets clearly claimed that the next Xbox is going to be always online. I don't think anyone cares about the city remarks.

#12 Edited by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -

#13 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

ORthy just said he was trolling that other guy personnely.

#14 Posted by Daveyo520 (7005 posts) -

My internet never goes down so I don't really care all that much. On a good note it means I won't need that dam disc in the system to play a game anymore.

#15 Posted by Sander (413 posts) -

EA shuts off the 'servers' for their games sometimes after 18 months. That's for multiplayer but in an always on-line environment, that will mean your entire game goes in the bin.

#16 Posted by Phatmac (5728 posts) -

Folks here that believe that this was just an inside joke between friends are getting fooled. There is a truth in a joke like this. Surprised by this guys attitude honestly.

#17 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

I think rumors are coming to a point that it would be surprising if the Durango is not an always online device.

#18 Edited by djou (878 posts) -

This is the kind of hubris that lead to Sony taking a bath with the PS3. Why do video game makers and companies forget they should be making things that gamers want to buy? Not telling them they should like being fleeced. Screw this guy.

#19 Posted by AssInAss (2746 posts) -

Oh boy, dude might be out of a job if this comes out as truth.

#20 Posted by SlashDance (1843 posts) -
@djou said:

This is the kind of hubris that lead to Sony taking a bath with the PS3.

Yeah... Kinda reminds me of Kutaragi's "get a second job if you can't afford it" comment.

#21 Edited by Viking_Funeral (1902 posts) -

There's truth in humor, but yeah, this seemed like a couple friends having fun with each other. God help if any of the stupid stuff I post on Facebook ever got out... or if anyone actually cared.

That said, my internet hiccups all the time, and always online is an instant deal breaker for me.

Also, I can't see this being an official thing on the next Xbox. I can't remember the exact percentage, but it was said that something like 30-40% of Xbox 360 owners in the States never bring their consoles online. That'd be a large market to shut out. Not all of them would make the leap.

#22 Posted by RollingZeppelin (2112 posts) -

If it turns out to be always online, I'm not buying it, simple as that.

#23 Posted by JasonR86 (9729 posts) -

'Get with the times' is a stupid thing for anyone to say.

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#24 Edited by mrfluke (5349 posts) -

what an elitist prick.

#25 Posted by Demoskinos (15164 posts) -

Cool we'll that is yet another point in Sony's camp and yet another miss for Microsoft. I think my mind is pretty set on PS4 right now unless whatever Xbox has is so fucking crazy that its worth all this hassle which...we'll see.

#26 Posted by WasabiCurry (425 posts) -

The tweet about "Who would live there?" is what really set me off.

Fuck me for living in a place where I want to live, am I right?

#27 Posted by Slag (4889 posts) -

the PS4 is looking better everyday.

#28 Posted by RE_Player1 (7526 posts) -

Man... this dude is going to get fired.

#29 Posted by tourgen (4542 posts) -

holy crap they're really going to try it? it's suicide. unless it really is just a digital rental box.

#30 Posted by Ben_H (3440 posts) -

I think this summer is looking like a great time to build a tiny PC to use as a game console. I have fiber optic internet but even my internet goes down from time to time. That should never impede me from playing games.

#31 Edited by villainy (599 posts) -

My internet never goes down so I don't really care all that much. On a good note it means I won't need that dam disc in the system to play a game anymore.

I never understand comments like this. If the provider's network (or any hop along the way) fails or gets nailed with a DDoS and you can't reach it... Then it really doesn't matter if your internet is up or not.

#32 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
#33 Edited by Marokai (3150 posts) -
#34 Posted by Nephrahim (1157 posts) -

He either lost his temper or is just stupid. I can't believe a guy who people will associate with Microsoft would go on such a rant.

#35 Posted by Autumn_Thunder (96 posts) -
@msavo said:

Man... this dude is going to get fired.

He is the creative director of Microsoft Studios. He's not going to get fired.

#36 Posted by MEATBALL (3495 posts) -

I was totally with Phil Fish until he said "count your priveleges" ugh.

#37 Posted by Deathpooky (1443 posts) -

Yeah, who would live in Blacksburg. Oh wait, it's a college town with about 25000 students, pretty much the target demographic for a new console? And it's mostly an engineering school? Well crap.

Seriously, if this is the attitude of the developers, you can see why Microsoft is going to shit with the new Xbox so far. Crazy hubris and completely misreading what customers actually want or what they'll tolerate. They really think people hating the idea of always on consoles are some ridiculous minority.

#38 Edited by ll_Exile_ll (1934 posts) -

Here's the thing the proponents of always online are completely overlooking:

The guy in those tweets and others that don't seem to be put off by always online love to come back the whole "we're in a connected world, every device is better with an online service, the future is on the internet" argument. I agree with all of that, but none of these excuses justify requiring an internet connection.

My PC is always connected to the internet, my PS3 and 360 are always connected to the internet, and nearly everything I do an ipad involves the internet. However, if I find myself for some reason without an internet connection, all these of devices still function. During all of these shitty blizzards this past winter, I got a lot of use of my (wifi only) ipad when the power went out and obviously did not have internet access.

All the talk about improving online services and creating a connected entertainment device are excellent goals, but it's all bullshit PR spin to hide the real reason Microsoft would implement an always online requirement: control. All the supposed benefits of always online can be achieved without making it mandatory, but then Microsoft wouldn't have the control over how the consumers use their product that they obviously want.

#39 Posted by Kinapuff (244 posts) -

Always online is becoming a non-issue for most people, myself included. Microsoft is skewing this console to be more of a media consumption device if the rumours are to be believed, and if you don't have an internet connection, you're clearly not the type of customer they're catering for.

#40 Posted by Marokai (3150 posts) -

@kinapuff said:

Always online is becoming a non-issue for most people, myself included. Microsoft is skewing this console to be more of a media consumption device if the rumours are to be believed, and if you don't have an internet connection, you're clearly not the type of customer they're catering for.

None of that justifies making it mandatory, however.

#41 Edited by RE_Player1 (7526 posts) -

@autumn_thunder said:
@msavo said:

Man... this dude is going to get fired.

He is the creative director of Microsoft Studios. He's not going to get fired.

Probably not but he'll get an extreme talking to. This has blown up. Story is on Kotaku and other sites as well as the front page of Reddit.

#42 Edited by kpaadet (413 posts) -

I love how anything dumb can always be excused with "ohh hey I was just trolling you guys", well maybe a high executive shouldn't fall to the level of sad forum dwellers, or atleast keep it private.

#43 Edited by McGhee (6075 posts) -

I appreciate how Sony finally seems to be learning from their mistakes and is fixing them. While it seems that Microsoft may be about to fuck themselves. This is going to be an interesting year in gaming.

#44 Posted by mrfluke (5349 posts) -

im glad this is causing such a big noise on the internet, microsoft would be fucking stupid now to not listen to the noise and make changes.

but rumor has it that the durango event got pushed back to may, so maybe they are making changes.

#45 Edited by LiquidPrince (16181 posts) -

Seems like Microsoft really wants to lose this generation to Sony.

#46 Edited by ll_Exile_ll (1934 posts) -

@mrfluke said:

im glad this is causing such a big noise on the internet, microsoft would be fucking stupid now to not listen to the noise and make changes.

but rumor has it that the durango event got pushed back to may, so maybe they are making changes.

Part of me thinks that maybe the rumors are complete bullshit, but Microsoft is intentionally leaking all this stuff about always online just so they can get up at their press conference and say "Despite what you've heard, our new console will NOT require an internet connection to play games" so they get a huge round of applause and instant good will from fans for basically nothing.

#47 Posted by SexyToad (2722 posts) -

Microsoft wouldn't be that dumb to actually go through with this right? Not with all this noise in the Internet.

#48 Posted by Kinapuff (244 posts) -

@marokai said:

@kinapuff said:

Always online is becoming a non-issue for most people, myself included. Microsoft is skewing this console to be more of a media consumption device if the rumours are to be believed, and if you don't have an internet connection, you're clearly not the type of customer they're catering for.

None of that justifies making it mandatory, however.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way implying that it IS necessary for the services and games that they offer. Anyone claiming that is ridiculous, much like the dude on twitter making an ass of himself. Personally, I have no interest for the Nextbox regardless of online capabilities.

Sony is definitely earning themselves some points by not making it mandatory, as far as I've heard.

#49 Edited by TruthTellah (9478 posts) -

So one day they'll shutdown the servers and the console won't be able to play anything... The future!

I can understand believing in "always online", but he doesn't have to be a smartass about it.

#50 Edited by MeganeAgain (123 posts) -

I've had enough of "always online" DRM with Diablo III, so I'd rather not see this kind of thing become more commonplace. I cannot picture any benefits to always needing to be online. It's just annoying.

Anyway, what a nasty attitude to have.