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#1 Edited by melcene (3056 posts) -

Game Informer has heard from multiple sources that Nintendo will be revealing a new HD console at this year's E3.

We have confirmed with multiple sources that this new home system is capable of running games at HD resolutions. There are conflicting reports, however, as to whether its graphics will be comparable to those on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 – meaning it could surpass or fall short of those systems. Either way it will offer competitive specifications. Moving to HD should greatly help Nintendo and its new console in getting more multi-platform triple-A titles like Portal 2 or Mortal Kombat. This, in turn, will strengthen Nintendo's historically poor relationship with third-party publishers/developers.


Original article here.

With the Sony and Microsoft both indicating that they have no intention of coming out with another console anytime soon, this means that Nintendo will have put out two consoles during this generation.  With their first console, they had stomped the competition into the ground on sales - much of that due to the low price of the Wii compared to the initial prices of the 360 and PS3.

However, today, many Wii's collect dust.  Will Nintendo have the staying power for people to put in the money for another of their consoles within this same generation?  How well do they expect to do in the market, even with HD titles, when most people, at the moment, own the titles they want for the systems they want?

Time can only tell.
#2 Edited by Kjellm87 (1728 posts) -

There is also the rumor that the Wii price drop to 150 dollar in May.
I dunno what to the think of this...

#3 Posted by beej (1674 posts) -

I'd be willing to bet that Nintendo will still probably make money on this, they've proven themselves to be pretty adept at doing so. 

#4 Posted by Kratos919 (14 posts) -

nice..i just hope that this console will be the opposite of Wii..also a new Sega console would be kinda nice ;)

#5 Posted by McGhee (6094 posts) -

Make it HD and give it a real goddamn controller, and maybe I'll be able to buy a Nintendo console again.

#6 Posted by Hailinel (25201 posts) -
@beej said:
" I'd be willing to bet that Nintendo will still probably make money on this, they've proven themselves to be pretty adept at doing so.  "
Unlike Microsoft and Sony, Nintendo doesn't have any other major divisions that can soak up losses on game hardware.  Video games are what they do.  It would be foolish of them to sell hardware at a loss.
#7 Posted by Akrid (1356 posts) -

Huh. Didn't really expect that.


I think it's a good move though.
#8 Posted by Marcsman (3256 posts) -
@McGhee_the_Insomniac said:
"Make it HD and give it a real goddamn controller, and maybe I'll be able to buy a Nintendo console again. "

What he said
#9 Posted by Vexed (313 posts) -

But will it have waggle?

#10 Edited by OmegaChosen (646 posts) -

Good for them. Probably won't get it though. My brother had the Wii and after multiple months of it just sitting there he finally sold it last month. I barely touched the thing myself, only to play Paper Mario from the WiiShop channel thing and that was ages ago. My 360 and PS3 will more than suffice for me personally.

#11 Posted by Mikemcn (7006 posts) -

Im just excited to find out what it's named. Better not be Wii 2.

#12 Posted by Hailinel (25201 posts) -
@Mikemcn said:
" Im just excited to find out what it's named. Better not be Wii 2. "
3DWii
#13 Posted by Icemael (6354 posts) -
@Hailinel said:
" @Mikemcn said:
" Im just excited to find out what it's named. Better not be Wii 2. "
3DWii "
Super Wii
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#14 Posted by Guided_By_Tigers (8061 posts) -

@Hailinel:
Doesn't mean they can't fail though.

 


 

Virtual Boy!



 

#15 Posted by Mikemcn (7006 posts) -
@Icemael said:
" @Hailinel said:
" @Mikemcn said:
" Im just excited to find out what it's named. Better not be Wii 2. "
3DWii "
Super Wii "
Wii Squared
#16 Posted by Kjellm87 (1728 posts) -

Well, at least it would give 3rd parties no excuse, Nintendo have done their part with software this gen  but they needed more support.

#17 Posted by blueduck (964 posts) -
@Kjellm87 said:
" Well, at least it would give 3rd parties no excuse, Nintendo have done their part with software this gen  but they needed more support. "
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
#18 Posted by mwng (947 posts) -

It best still support GameCube controllers...

#19 Posted by Daveyo520 (6924 posts) -

It is too early to start new consoles, I just got my 360 ;_;

#20 Posted by beej (1674 posts) -
@Hailinel: I was speaking about a new console as an overall proposition, not just on sales of hardware. 
#21 Posted by Kjellm87 (1728 posts) -
@blueduck said:
" @Kjellm87 said:
" Well, at least it would give 3rd parties no excuse, Nintendo have done their part with software this gen  but they needed more support. "
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "
Don't think it is much wrong with saying that, many of the first-party games received good scores, heck Galaxy is almost at the top of the ranking list.
#22 Posted by neoepoch (1295 posts) -

If people think that third parties are going to flock to this like they did with the other consoles (only to get burned hard) they are sorely mistaken. It won't be a wave/flood it'll be a trickle at first to even see if people would want their games in the first place and if not...then they stop.

#23 Posted by Brake (1117 posts) -

The Game Informer article speculates that this could help Nintendo's relationship with 3rd parties and "bring games like Portal 2 and Mortal Kombat to the system". I wonder how they would differentiate themselves from the other two then? I mean obviously they still have the Nintendo exclusives, but I feel like that isn't gonna cut it. Also, interesting to see what kind of online capabiliteis this thing is gonna have.

Yeah, this year's E3 just got interesting as fuck.

#24 Posted by Hailinel (25201 posts) -
@Unknown_Pleasures said:
"

@Hailinel:
Doesn't mean they can't fail though.

 


 

Virtual Boy!



 

"
True, but critics claimed that both the DS and Wii would be Virtual Boy-style failures prior to their launches and were proven wrong both times.  And the Virtual Boy was just such a unique failure in and of itself that few game hardware companies could pull it off, even if they tried.
#25 Posted by moelarrycurly (668 posts) -

I just want to play Zelda with modern graphics (a la Uncharted) and I'll be happy.  Shiggy, make it happen.

#26 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -

i respect Nintendo and their history, but i dont see how they have anything more to offer.. the same old tired fun-based franchises must have gone dead stale by now


an HD Wii. yeah very interesting >_>
#27 Edited by imsh_pl (3298 posts) -

OhgodohgodohgodOHGOD

SO PUMPED FOR THIS

It's gonna be my first stationary console announcment since I've started to really get into the gaming business.

Will it be called the Wii2? Wii HD? Or just a completely new name?

Will it only have more power? Or maybe show a completely new way to interact with games that will turn the industry as we know it upside down? Maybe mind control? Voice recognition? Custom UI commands?

Will it have a completely new online network? Steam integration?

And more importantly:

Will it blend???

#28 Posted by RE_Player1 (7573 posts) -

I haven't touched my Wii in 2 years so if it's just a Wii type system with HD graphics I'm not excited. I'm not going to buy it, or any console for that matter, day 1 as the launch lineup will be shit and problems could arise. 

#29 Edited by xyzygy (10062 posts) -

Please Nintendo. You are the only one who can deliver the games I truly need. Make a console with an actual controller and my name is red.


Totally loving the negativity in this thread. I feel like it's 2005 all over again.

@Ahmad_Metallic: You're honestly saying you wouldn't want to see Zelda, Mario, Metroid, etc with better than PS3/360 graphics?

#30 Posted by FreakAche (2955 posts) -
@blueduck said:
" @Kjellm87 said:
" Well, at least it would give 3rd parties no excuse, Nintendo have done their part with software this gen  but they needed more support. "
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "
Hahahahahahaha? What's so funny?
#31 Posted by Starfishhunter9 (369 posts) -

2 consoles in a generation? Wouldn't this count as next gen? Sure microsoft and sony might not follow for 3 or 4 years but it's been 5 years since the release of the ps3 (The last this gen console)

#32 Posted by Vexed (313 posts) -

It already feels redundant owning two HD consoles, I certainly don't need a third.  Even if I was tempted to buy an HD Wii, why would I buy 3rd party multiplatform games like Mortal Kombat for it?

#33 Edited by imsh_pl (3298 posts) -
@Starfishhunter9 said:

" 2 consoles in a generation? Wouldn't this count as next gen? Sure microsoft and sony might not follow for 3 or 4 years but it's been 5 years since the release of the ps3 (The last this gen console) "

If it's announced it will be next gen.(EDIT: Provided that it will truly be a new, standalone console and not just an upgraded Wii)

Also don't count on Sony or Microsoft releasing a new console before 2013. It hasn't even been a year since they've started to get serious with motion gaming, that's what they're focused on now.
#34 Posted by SlightConfuse (3963 posts) -

i bet the online will still be bad 


sounds interesting 
#35 Posted by Kjellm87 (1728 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
. the same old tired fun-based franchises must have gone dead stale by now.
Disagree.

Also I kinda fear for the industry if they keep pushing the tech. Why didn't Nintendo go to the same level of tech as the rest? Because they couldn't afford losing money each game the first couple of years.
We have gotten several trilogies just this gen, because it has become expensive to make games no doubt.
#36 Posted by Eristocrat (440 posts) -

Not surprising since they haven't talked about anything new for Wii later this year except Zelda.  Very interested to see what lessons they've learned from Wii as they sold about a billion consoles then had tons of trouble with attachment rates and getting traditional titles on the thing.  

#37 Posted by Hailinel (25201 posts) -
@Starfishhunter9 said:
" 2 consoles in a generation? Wouldn't this count as next gen? Sure microsoft and sony might not follow for 3 or 4 years but it's been 5 years since the release of the ps3 (The last this gen console) "
If you recall, the Xbox had only been around for a few years before Microsoft tried to get a jump on the competition by launching the 360 in 2005.

The way that Nintendo has been operating as of late, it's hard to say what the next console will be like.  It could be a Wii HD.  It could have the ability to let you play video games with the power of your mind.  It could be a Super NES 2.  It could be a Virtual Boy 2.  I'm not going to even try predicting what it'll be, because chances are I will be spectacularly wrong.
#38 Edited by xyzygy (10062 posts) -
@Hailinel said:

" @Starfishhunter9 said:

" 2 consoles in a generation? Wouldn't this count as next gen? Sure microsoft and sony might not follow for 3 or 4 years but it's been 5 years since the release of the ps3 (The last this gen console) "
If you recall, the Xbox had only been around for a few years before Microsoft tried to get a jump on the competition by launching the 360 in 2005.The way that Nintendo has been operating as of late, it's hard to say what the next console will be like.  It could be a Wii HD.  It could have the ability to let you play video games with the power of your mind.  It could be a Super NES 2.  It could be a Virtual Boy 2.  I'm not going to even try predicting what it'll be, because chances are I will be spectacularly wrong. "
Would it not be epic as fuck if their new console was name SNES2?

@slightconfuse said:
" i bet the online will still be bad 

sounds interesting 
"
I hear the 3DS online opened the online up a bit more so you can more easily share your FC and you have a gamercard-style thing.
#39 Posted by KamikazeCaterpillar (1179 posts) -

I can't really say that I am surprised. I'd put money on that fact that it will probably still be underpowered compared to the PS3 and 360 if it is announced this year. Why? Because if they make something that is equally or powerful than a 360 or PS3 they won't be able to make it for $50 and sell it for $350.

#40 Posted by DonutFever (3560 posts) -
@Hailinel said:
" @Mikemcn said:
" Im just excited to find out what it's named. Better not be Wii 2. "
3DWii "
3Wii?
#41 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

wow was not expecting this coming out. it seems pretty weird to release something like that. it is getting me thinking that this might just be something like what apple does with their products, release one and then upgrade it with new one. i just hope that this is really just a wii HD because i think it's to early to release a new console. my ps3 isn't that old, and sony and microsoft just release their motion controls. i dont'  think they plan on releasing a new system right after that. i only think they will release a new console if they find out that the motion controls failed.

#42 Posted by Hailinel (25201 posts) -
@xyzygy said:
" @Hailinel said:

" @Starfishhunter9 said:

" 2 consoles in a generation? Wouldn't this count as next gen? Sure microsoft and sony might not follow for 3 or 4 years but it's been 5 years since the release of the ps3 (The last this gen console) "
If you recall, the Xbox had only been around for a few years before Microsoft tried to get a jump on the competition by launching the 360 in 2005.The way that Nintendo has been operating as of late, it's hard to say what the next console will be like.  It could be a Wii HD.  It could have the ability to let you play video games with the power of your mind.  It could be a Super NES 2.  It could be a Virtual Boy 2.  I'm not going to even try predicting what it'll be, because chances are I will be spectacularly wrong. "
Would it not be epic as fuck if their new console was name SNES2?

@slightconfuse said:
" i bet the online will still be bad 

sounds interesting 
"
I hear the 3DS online opened the online up a bit more so you can more easily share your FC and you have a gamercard-style thing.
"
Yes, yes it would be.

And as far as the online is concerned, if the 3DS is any indication, the next Nintendo console should have much better online support than the Wii.  Not saying how much better, but the 3DS is proof that Nintendo wasn't just talking through their hat when they said that they were working on improving their online experience.
#43 Posted by drag (1223 posts) -

It's a sad day when a new Nintendo console makes me feel ... absolutely nothing at all. 

#44 Posted by Vexed (313 posts) -

#45 Posted by xyzygy (10062 posts) -
@drag said:
" It's a sad day when a new Nintendo console makes me feel ... absolutely nothing at all.  "
It's the Wii's aftertaste.
#46 Posted by brotherlu (62 posts) -

I am switching back to PC gaming so I doubt I will buy a new console. Plus honestly cant stand where games a going today, rinse and repeat FPS are not my style anymore. I am addicted to Civ 5 and also I am going to get The Old Republic when it comes out. I dont think anybody will care about a new console. Not just from Nintendogs but also from Micro$oft or Shony.

#47 Posted by HairyMike87 (1016 posts) -

They need to do their best to get better exclusives that are not just from Nintendo.

#48 Posted by Kyreo (4600 posts) -
@Vexed said:
" But will it have waggle? "
It better.
#49 Posted by Chaser324 (6716 posts) -

If Nintendo wants any chance of recapturing a larger portion of the hardcore audience, now seems like the perfect time to try rolling out a more advanced console. If they wait until after the next MS or Sony console is released (or even announced), I doubt the odds of success would be as high.

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#50 Posted by FiestaUnicorn (1576 posts) -

It could still be years away.
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