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Posted by patrickklepek (6436 posts) -
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New York’s prestigious Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) has picked 14 games to become part of an installation debuting in March 2013. It hopes to eventually expand that list to about 40 games.

“Are video games art?” said the museum. “They sure are, but they are also design, and a design approach is what we chose for this new foray into this universe. The games are selected as outstanding examples of interaction design--a field that MoMA has already explored and collected extensively, and one of the most important and oft-discussed expressions of contemporary design creativity.”

The first 14 games are as follows:

It’s interesting that two of the games games-- EVE Online, Dwarf Fortress--are still active and evolving, and will continue to change in the years to come. I hope the installation will reflect that!

MoMA’s blog post is exhaustive, breaking down the criteria it used--behavior, aesthetics, space, time--when choosing the games that were featured in this initial lineup.

The above 14 are not the only games to be featured at MoMA, however. The museum hopes to acquire many more, eventually hitting around 40 games, over the next several years, including:

If your favorite game ever isn’t featured, there may be a reason for that.

“Because of the tight filter we apply to any category of objects in MoMA’s collection," it wrote, "our selection does not include some immensely popular video games that might have seemed like no-brainers to video game historians."

Also, the first comment on the MoMA blog about Passage bums me out.

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#1 Posted by patrickklepek (6436 posts) -
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New York’s prestigious Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) has picked 14 games to become part of an installation debuting in March 2013. It hopes to eventually expand that list to about 40 games.

“Are video games art?” said the museum. “They sure are, but they are also design, and a design approach is what we chose for this new foray into this universe. The games are selected as outstanding examples of interaction design--a field that MoMA has already explored and collected extensively, and one of the most important and oft-discussed expressions of contemporary design creativity.”

The first 14 games are as follows:

It’s interesting that two of the games games-- EVE Online, Dwarf Fortress--are still active and evolving, and will continue to change in the years to come. I hope the installation will reflect that!

MoMA’s blog post is exhaustive, breaking down the criteria it used--behavior, aesthetics, space, time--when choosing the games that were featured in this initial lineup.

The above 14 are not the only games to be featured at MoMA, however. The museum hopes to acquire many more, eventually hitting around 40 games, over the next several years, including:

If your favorite game ever isn’t featured, there may be a reason for that.

“Because of the tight filter we apply to any category of objects in MoMA’s collection," it wrote, "our selection does not include some immensely popular video games that might have seemed like no-brainers to video game historians."

Also, the first comment on the MoMA blog about Passage bums me out.

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#2 Edited by Fredddi43 (520 posts) -

Portal deserves this.

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#3 Posted by Sooty (8194 posts) -

Street Fighter II, excellent! Okami next?

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#4 Edited by MarkWahlberg (4714 posts) -

The design elements and such involved certainly deserve recognition, but stuff like this always feels mildly pandering.

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#5 Posted by Fire_Of_The_Wind (194 posts) -

Okami HD should be on that list, that game is like a painting in motion.

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#6 Posted by ChrisTaran (1998 posts) -

Man, no Ico or Shadow of the Colossus is the biggest rub for me!

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#7 Posted by RobertOrri (1178 posts) -

That's a nice list. Also, Jef2D sounds like a dullard.

@Sooty said:

Okami next?

No.

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#8 Posted by s10129107 (1423 posts) -

FUCK YOU EBERT!

I'm so glad Grim Fandango is on the list.

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#9 Posted by RockinKemosabe (645 posts) -

Grim Fandango! Yes!

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#10 Posted by TheGanjaKing (81 posts) -

Their statement that these games are art matters more than their showing the games themselves.

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#11 Posted by Xpgamer7 (2471 posts) -

Vib RIbbon!

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#12 Posted by alibson (166 posts) -

I came in expecting to get mad, but those are actually pretty good choices.

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#13 Posted by MuttersomeTaxicab (823 posts) -

DWARF FORTRESS. A GAME WITHOUT ART IS ART.

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#14 Posted by Video_Game_King (36565 posts) -

@s10129107 said:

FUCK YOU EBERT!

This is how I wake myself up in the morning.

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#15 Posted by Itwastuesday (1207 posts) -

No DOOM? What the fuck!?

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#16 Posted by bkbroiler (1718 posts) -

They should get some Journey in there! Everyone would be impressed by that.

Really cool to see Grim Fandango on the potential list, too.

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#17 Posted by Juliodepatatas (8 posts) -

Surprised that flOw made the cut and Journey didn't.

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#18 Posted by Rayeth (1158 posts) -

@MuttersomeTaxicab: ASCII art is art.

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#19 Posted by nohthink (1369 posts) -

Grim Fandango!

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#20 Edited by Draxyle (2007 posts) -

That is a pretty intelligent listing of games there. I would definitely rank most of those as important milestones in videogaming.

And Grim Fandango? Wow, now they really need to put that on GOG or something so I can finally play it.

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#21 Posted by Pie (7292 posts) -

Coldplay does kinda suck though.

Online
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#22 Posted by nohthink (1369 posts) -

They have flOw but no Journey?? BLASPHEMY!!

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#23 Posted by Toug (490 posts) -

Portal is actually the the first thing I thought of when I read the headline. This is very cool.

Mario 64 being in an art museum will be the coolest way to ever play that game.

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#24 Posted by Draxyle (2007 posts) -

@nohthink said:

They have flOw but no Journey?? BLASPHEMY!!

That was my first thought, but it's a 2012 game. I'd imagine it'd be up for consideration within a few years.

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#25 Edited by Bumpton (498 posts) -

I'd love to hear more about their vetting process for games they add. In terms of historically important games, I feel like this list is pretty damn flawless thus far.

Edit: They actually talk about it a bit in link to the museum's website. Good stuff.

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#26 Edited by wolf_blitzer85 (5397 posts) -

Yar's Revenge still freaks me out. 
 
Also, it's cool to see that someone there knows what they're doing.

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#27 Posted by FunkasaurasRex (855 posts) -

I'm disappointed by the omission of Super Mario World.

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#28 Posted by stinky (1564 posts) -
@TheGanjaKing said:

Their statement that these games are art matters more than their showing the games themselves.

graphic design category.
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#29 Posted by trolipo3 (12 posts) -

never heard most of those games, wheres cod4 which rwas the first fps?

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#30 Posted by MjHealy (1993 posts) -

Vib-Ribbon is great choice. Good lists overall, I have to say.

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#31 Posted by MuttersomeTaxicab (823 posts) -

@Rayeth said:

@MuttersomeTaxicab: ASCII art is art.

Oh, fine. I know that. It's just amazing that the MoMA knows it, too!

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#32 Posted by NoobSauceG7 (1380 posts) -

Persona 4 is a damn museum! Dammit!

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#33 Posted by Bumpton (498 posts) -

@trolipo3 said:

never heard most of those games, wheres cod4 which rwas the first fps?

lolol, you so crazy.

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#34 Posted by CaLe (4751 posts) -

Metal Gear Solid 1 is art of the highest degree. All things considered, probably the best game ever made imo.

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#35 Posted by RollingZeppelin (2429 posts) -

Well, there you have it folks, games are officially art, we can all stop arguing about it now.

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#36 Posted by DevourerOfTime (663 posts) -

I don't see how Canabalt fits in that list. It sticks out like a sore thumb.

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#37 Posted by Xeirus (1636 posts) -

OUT OF THIS WORLD, YES, YES, YES, yes, yes, ohhhhh yes

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#38 Posted by Icemo (713 posts) -
@Fire_Of_The_Wind said:
Okami HD should be on that list, that game is like a painting in motion.
 Yes, very nice painting indeed...
 Yes, very nice painting indeed...
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#39 Posted by Woodwater (91 posts) -

WELL. I'm glad that finally settles it...

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#40 Posted by flasaltine (2177 posts) -

Machinarium is the most art. It has actual art in the game. Real art.

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#41 Posted by Aeterna (1129 posts) -

@MuttersomeTaxicab said:

DWARF FORTRESS. A GAME WITHOUT ART IS ART.

This, also surprised me. I think it's wonderful.

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#42 Posted by Nekroskop (2831 posts) -

I bet Notch is going to take another vacation after hearing this news.

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#43 Posted by BlueWolverine (132 posts) -

flOw before Flower or Journey?

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#44 Posted by Draxyle (2007 posts) -

@CaLe said:

Metal Gear Solid 1 is art of the highest degree. All things considered, probably the best game ever made imo.

Thinking about that, MGS1 is a somewhat glaring omission from the list. I feel like that was the first game that truly delivered on a cinematic experience like no other; though I'm sure that's up for debate.

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#45 Posted by Johnnybombazini (24 posts) -

Is this good or bad? also, why's there grim fandango but no maniac mansion?

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#46 Posted by vhold (539 posts) -

My favorite game isn't included!  This is an outrage!

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#47 Posted by ZeroDoom (5 posts) -

Dwarf Fortress but no NetHack?!

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#48 Posted by patrickklepek (6436 posts) -

@Pie said:

Coldplay does kinda suck though.

tru dat

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#49 Posted by Brodehouse (10827 posts) -

"INTERACTION DESIGN."

THANK FUCKING CHRIST SOMEONE IS PAYING ATTENTION.

Man, after a shitty couple days of arguing on Giant Bomb, hearing someone actually recognize interactive design, making gameplay systems, creating content that reacts, that it's actually art. I've spent the last three weeks planning my first night of a new tabletop campaign called Corundum; designing a narrative that offers choice and has to be ready for anything my players invent, gameplay systems that feel rewarding to control and be conflicted by, a setting that is original and still relatable, maps that offer player involvement and effective (and affective) moments, a sense of verisimilitude and their overall enjoyment. It has been a greater creative venture than if I had played music, wrote prose or drew a picture, and yet some wouldn't call it 'art'.

Thank you Museum of Modern Art. You are the best.

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#50 Posted by zerdune (219 posts) -

Just played Passage since it was the only game on the list I didn't recognize. I didn't get it.